thread to dis hyped releases that you don't get/don't like/wanna complain about

I agree that his lyricism is overly revered

(nor is it terrible though)

The non-'confessional' (i.e. autobiographical ad absurdum) bits are solid. I wish he'd ditch the Tao Lin-isms.

well, admitting you're inspired by a certain other songwriter suddenly got much less cool after today. being inspired by him at all hopefully as well

I only found out after my attempt at weathering those 44:44 mins but it certainly doesn't help!

Anyway, I have no idea how this is a 4.13/5.00 based on 3,655 RYM ratings.

neurotic shut-ins love music made by neurotic world traveler

*ahem*

(it's a good album and I have nothing against phil but it shouldn't surprise anyone that the combo of who made it, the fact that it's a 44-minute track and the release timing makes this very obvious RYM bait)

obviously that fishmans thing is the dictionary definition of an rym-hyped release that i would like to dis

y'all are making this record-i-will-never-hear sound like the rym-beloved record "the salmon of doubt" by coin locker kid, which is one of those rym-beloved records i really wish i could hate

yeah, the microphones are extremely overhyped. there's not a single catchy melody to be found on any of the dude's records.

random thought for a thursday: fuck bruce springsteen.

what's your plan?

to never willingly listen to the microphones or springsteen ever again.

obviously that fishmans thing is the dictionary definition of an rym-hyped release that i would like to dis

the secret of fishmans is that while long season is kinda inexplicably overrated (i mean the length does make it rym bait and it's good but it's not thaaat good), uchuu nippon setagaya is absolutely a masterpiece

The new Liturgy sounds like a hipper flavour of crossover classical if the two advance Bandcamp tracks are anything to go by. I didn’t much care for their previous LP once I got past the immediate ‘at least they’re trying something different’ factor and I’m afraid the new one’s boundlessly earnest, overwrought ambition is even less convincing to my ears because there’s nothing substantial to underpin it, just an awkward collision of clichés drawn from different genres on top of the classical base, distilled into a single Molotov cocktail of self-aggrandizement (Gesamtkunstwerk? lol). So yeah, this is Still Not For Me – Ehnahre’s The Marrow gave us a much better sense of how It should be done. (Sorry, lj & others.)

counterpoint: ehnahre are well boring

AND NOW WE FIGHT!

tbh it's refreshing that Liturgy have been sufficiently critically rehabilitated that they could legitimately appear itt. popping up here means you've made it

rong

Glimpses into an existential vacuum > vacuous maximalism.

They’ve made it on ILM, that’s for sure.

when i want to gaze into the void, i want to be kicking ass while i do it

dril tweet or metal motto, you decide

I’m cool with either butt kicking or not butt kicking as I contemplate nihil but Liturgy fails on both counts. An eloquent illustration of faux metal as the nigh worst of several worlds.

contemplate nihil? Liturgy's entire philosophy/life/music is geared around the idea that there is no void, that there is meaning and divine presence and substance. it is all terribly optimistic and i can see why its jubilant promises of God might lie at odds with a voidgazer's perspective

me, i vacillate between the positions of void and divine, so i require both sorts of metal, innit

when i spoke of kicking ass while gazing into the void I was thinking more Darkspace or our darling Ruins Of Beverast lol

Ah, that makes more sense.

I have no bone to pick with the irruption of the theological into black metal, as long as it’s conceived as kenosis.

there he is with his deathspell omega

That’s not where I picked it up (had to google the connection just now) and as far as I’m concerned Paracletus is the only album of theirs I fully endorse.

Liturgy's entire philosophy/life/music is geared around the idea that there is no void, that there is meaning and divine presence and substance.

he's just some dude

'he'? check yr receipts dude

or are you referring to god the divine, lol

sorry

boognish

Theos is both masculine and feminine in Ancient Greek iirc.

Theos Huxtable

The Liturgy album is good but it is not in any sense a metal record.

I mean, in some sense it is clearly a metal record. So far it feels more like a metal sensibility subsuming other influences than some other genre toying with metal signifiers.

So far it feels more like a metal sensibility subsuming other influences than some other genre toying with metal signifiers.

Once you've heard it all the way through — I'm reviewing it for The Wire — I think you'll have the opposite impression. To me it feels like an attempt at modern composition, with the occasional blast beat and/or metal riff (a little BM here, a little doom there) popping up and lots of glitching and high-pitched sine-wave tones.

Contemporary classical music for people who hate/ignore contemporary classical music (I’m looking at you, (redacted)).

B-)

couldn't sell that Liturgy/Oval split LP fast enough, glad it's gone

wontgetfooledagain.flv

Wait, so I can catch up, are we talking about HAQQ or the even newer one? I lost track.

The new one. I’ve only streamed the two tracks that are currently available on BC ahead of the album’s official release on Friday.

Thx, haven't played those ones yet.

Thinking about the void of subjectivity

— Liturgy (@LITVRGY) November 18, 2020

That's fair unperson, curious to hear the rest. So far I've been happy to enjoy them as black metal for people who hate/ignore black metal. :)

Feeling very vindicated rn.

xp

lol!

Not one to hold back but we're still only talking about the two tracks that are up, no? I thought HAQQ was a magnificent achievement and can't wait for the new one, but I do not enjoy hearing her tracks in isolation, so I'll hold out (did hear the first one released, which I liked) judgement.

I haven't listened to Liturgy since Aesthethica and I like the new one quite a bit (while recognizing its flaws) so...it definitely bears hearing in full, I'll say that much.

It was the same w/ HAQQ, where one track really did not tell the whole story imo, so I'll await impatiently.