Black Sabbath: Classic or Dud?

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I've heard the quad mix and it's groovy, but don't really see the point of "1974 Quad Mix of the album folded down to stereo". One of the things I dig about it is how it adds a bit of psychedelia: a guitars solo circles around the room, etc. I don't listen to 5.1 much but tend to prefer the "gimmicky" ones a bit more than those that just add a bit of tasteful atmosphere, though. (IIRC the quad mix was released as a 5.1 disc on one of the other numerous reissues of this record?)

blatherskite, Friday, 21 August 2020 14:50 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Never been much of a Dr. Martens guy, but… I kinda want this:

https://www.drmartens.com/uk/en_gb/collaborations/black-sabbath

pomenitul, Thursday, 1 October 2020 16:40 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

https://i.imgur.com/KsVteid.png

Lovely lads

calstars, Sunday, 1 May 2022 02:37 (two years ago) link

Bill Ward's tights on the cover of Sabotage were the beginning of the end. Or maybe the end of the beginning.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 1 May 2022 17:22 (two years ago) link

so here are some of my favorite versions of the black sabbath song "planet caravan". a singular tune in sabbath's catalog, yes?

rondellus
adeline
the anomanon
big blood
novilunio
darkside
moon duo
hula hi-fi

any other versions you rate highly, lmk. i guess there's mercury rev's version, but it doesn't seem to add much to the original?

oh and the lyrics to the early alternate version are _so bad_. thank god they floyded it up some.

Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 1 May 2022 21:19 (two years ago) link

Yeah PC is a singular vibe in their canon. I feel like they tried to revisit it to some extent via “solitiude...” I will always remember the first time I heard it, climbing up the stairs to my cousins room in his big house

calstars, Sunday, 1 May 2022 21:27 (two years ago) link

Supertzar? I guess it…doesn’t have drums

calstars, Sunday, 1 May 2022 21:53 (two years ago) link

I guess by the time of Vol. 4, the Sabbath ballads like "Changes" were playing to the crowd more than the highly introverted quiet interludes on the earlier albums.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 1 May 2022 21:56 (two years ago) link

By contrast, "Planet Caravan" doesn't even sound like someone singing to themselves, it sounds like an unconscious act.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 1 May 2022 22:00 (two years ago) link

Picturing Ossie in the spotlight with a grand piano

calstars, Sunday, 1 May 2022 22:02 (two years ago) link

"Here's a little number we like to call 'God Is Dead?'"

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 1 May 2022 22:03 (two years ago) link

“This next one is the first track off our new album…”

calstars, Sunday, 1 May 2022 22:06 (two years ago) link

that Moon Duo cover of "Planet Caravan" totally rules

thinkmanship (sleeve), Sunday, 1 May 2022 22:11 (two years ago) link

I trust everyone has seen the live in Paris 1970 footage on youtube by now. Iron Man on that jesus fucking christ.

I’m sure there’s a thread about this very thing but the differential between the cover of Sabotage (aggressively terrible) vs the content (absolutely rad and on any given day could be my fave) is stark

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Sunday, 1 May 2022 23:00 (two years ago) link

I don't know what you're talking about LOL

https://dx72k0ec4onep.cloudfront.net/product/1616/282536311478247228-640x640-5414939920837.jpg

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 1 May 2022 23:04 (two years ago) link

Home in the skyyy-iyyyy

calstars, Sunday, 1 May 2022 23:05 (two years ago) link

Bill Ward did not know they were shooting the cover that day.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 1 May 2022 23:17 (two years ago) link

Ozzy looks great though.

Was Hitler a Hobbit? (Tom D.), Sunday, 1 May 2022 23:18 (two years ago) link

6’ 6” in heels

calstars, Sunday, 1 May 2022 23:22 (two years ago) link

has ilx ever polled black sabbath album covers?

for the record those tights are rad. versus who's the guy on the left in chino pants? is that geezer butler? dud. i mean they all look awful next to ozzy of course but bill is the second best looking guy on that cover, he's got this weird elfin energy that sums up sabbath's aesthetic really well

btw ums i have enjoyed that weird psych band sabbath comp you put together for... i don't know. probably more than a decade, now? but planet caravan is still in a class by itself.

Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 2 May 2022 04:05 (two years ago) link

Supertzar? I guess it…doesn’t have drums

― calstars, Sunday, May 1, 2022 4:53 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Great to be back

Yeah, that's Geezer in the chinos and the giant ass cross, which is typically Tony's look.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 2 May 2022 13:38 (two years ago) link

Heels or no heels, I've stood next to Ozzy, and based on that, the other guys in Sabbath must be fucking dwarves. I'm not a giant, — I'm 6'2" — and he's supposedly 5'10" but I think he's at least two inches shorter than that. (He was wearing old-man velcro sneakers at the time.)

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 2 May 2022 14:37 (two years ago) link

He might well be shrinking

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Monday, 2 May 2022 19:02 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6GTf6rOepQ

calstars, Thursday, 5 May 2022 18:29 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

Jazz Sabbath

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qcr708w1HY

oh yes

Tracer Hand, Friday, 2 December 2022 11:50 (one year ago) link

This is Geezer Butler- he wrote this!

The Dark End of the Tweet (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 2 December 2022 11:53 (one year ago) link

Jizz Sabbath

calstars, Friday, 2 December 2022 12:14 (one year ago) link

sorry i think you will find the true story on their Bandcamp page:

Jazz Sabbath (1968) were considered to be at the forefront of the new English jazz movement. Their self-titled debut album would be released on 13 Feb 1970, but on Feb 12th founding member and pianist Milton Keanes was hospitalised with a massive heart attack; leaving him fighting for his life. The record company shelved the album and cancelled the scheduled release out of financial uncertainty of releasing a debut album from a band without its musical leader.

When Milton was released from hospital in September 1970, he found out that a band from Birmingham, conveniently called ‘Black Sabbath’, had since released two albums containing so-called metal versions of his songs. His recalled albums had been destroyed in a warehouse fire in June 1970; leaving only a few bootleg tapes of Jazz Sabbath’s live performances as proof of existence.

The master tapes, believed to be lost in the fire, were found in 2019. These songs will now finally be heard; proving that the heavy metal band worshipped by millions are in fact nothing more than musical charlatans, thieving the music from a bedridden, hospitalised genius.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 2 December 2022 12:14 (one year ago) link

Black Challops

calstars, Friday, 2 December 2022 13:38 (one year ago) link

Lmao James

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 December 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link

That version of Iron Man is pretty awesome

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Friday, 2 December 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link

two months pass...
one year passes...

Supernaut is their most funky

calstars, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 01:39 (six months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/oKqx0Dd.jpeg
Was it illusion ???

calstars, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 01:42 (six months ago) link

Supernaut is their most funky

The Wizard, maybe. But Supernaut fucking kills.

the coda of Sympton of the Universe is a good candidate too, in fact that whole track is funky!

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 09:22 (six months ago) link

I dig the funkiness of "Behind the Wall of Sleep." They may have enough for a Funk Sabbath compilation.

Josefa, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:13 (six months ago) link

there's a compilation I have on Spotify made by Andrew Male called "Brown Sabbath" which is a selection of their acid-folk hippy trippy stuff

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:16 (six months ago) link

that's much better than what I thought it would be

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:19 (six months ago) link

haha indeed

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:21 (six months ago) link

Supernaut wins the Funk Sabbath contest through the cod-Latin section in the breakdown

the scouse that roared (Matt #2), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:27 (six months ago) link

there's a compilation I have on Spotify made by Andrew Male called "Brown Sabbath" which is a selection of their acid-folk hippy trippy stuff

― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, April 16, 2024 8:16 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

here's a link because this was surprisingly difficult to find for me

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5Oj4COp422cODysqXbEhK4

budo jeru, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:45 (six months ago) link

UMS i will A/B the two

budo jeru, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:52 (six months ago) link

thanks, should have posted the link!

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:12 (six months ago) link

xxxp nice, there's a lot of crossover between the playlists as you might expect

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:14 (six months ago) link

ha seems like we've hit a "infinite monkeys/typewriters" of black sabbath playlists with this

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:40 (six months ago) link


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