i wonder how much of it is expectations? ... like, as you say, it's not about "improv" -- it sounds like you have certain expectations (or at least aesthetic preferences) of rock music and acceptable adjacent sounds ... whereas the other stuff is subject to different expectations/aesthetics
sorry for butting in
― sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 18:26 (four years ago) link
Lol we have a thread for this... it’s probably still on sna ffs
― brimstead, Friday, 21 August 2020 18:45 (four years ago) link
I mean I would like to think at this point in life it’s not about expectations...I generally try to re-approach art that my friends and peers like that doesn’t click for me generously and from a bunch of different angles. I’ve had the experience of a band not matching my expectations and then recalibrating and returning and being totally win over. I mean I also grew up with the Dead in the air, I had the early records in HS and went to a state school in NE where they are/were ubiquitous, took the requisite acid trip at a stadium show etc. And I like their whole ethos—am attracted to the idea of that subculture.I just can’t find a way in.
― syphilitic wolf prose errata (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 21 August 2020 18:56 (four years ago) link
xp I had been reading but steering clear of posting in the Dead thread respectfully, it seems like it’s rolling along w/ real heads and I like that
― syphilitic wolf prose errata (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 21 August 2020 18:59 (four years ago) link
though maybr this is better for "Bands you keep trying to like but can't get into"
― syphilitic wolf prose errata (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 21 August 2020 19:01 (four years ago) link
idk i just approach things from the "it's okay if i don't like music i'm supposed to like" perspective and move on ... maybe it's worth analyzing why i don't, maybe that's what's going on with y'all? I generally only do this when it's the music of someone i know personally, and what I think of their music might actually affect them? ... there are definitely a whole cadre of ppl that are into 21st century alt-jam bands that have been recently mentioned here, that won't go near the Dead -- personally, I don't see that big of a difference between them ... but I'm of the "not really a fan of either type" though I find it pleasant enough
― sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 19:10 (four years ago) link
I mean the Dead are one of those bands I'm totally "it's okay I don't like this." But I guess generally speaking it has something to do w/ appetite...I'm sometimes reluctant to give up entirely on something other ppl whose opinions I respect are into, in the hopes of expanding/developing my own sensibilities
― syphilitic wolf prose errata (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 21 August 2020 19:19 (four years ago) link
Am I the only person who hasn't been converted to the Dead?
No. Every time I've tried listening to the Dead, I get maybe a minute or two into it until I realize: why am I listening to this when I can listen to Bardo Pond instead?
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 21 August 2020 19:34 (four years ago) link
it’s ok if you don’t like the dead... is it ok if I like the dead?
― brimstead, Friday, 21 August 2020 19:42 (four years ago) link
I never in a million zillion years thought I’d EVER listen to Tom Waits by choice but here I am getting really into heart of Saturday night. Wtf.
― brimstead, Friday, 21 August 2020 19:43 (four years ago) link
i have always liked Tom Waits
― sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 19:43 (four years ago) link
listened to Rain Dogs in full for the first time in decades a week or two back, good times
― sleeve, Friday, 21 August 2020 19:48 (four years ago) link
sleeve -- who was that british guitar dude that did that home concert a month or so ago? fish something or other?
― sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 19:50 (four years ago) link
Is this Grateful Dead? Why does everyone call them The Dead?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 21 August 2020 19:52 (four years ago) link
great question Robert Adam Gilmour, can i call you Bob?
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 21 August 2020 19:57 (four years ago) link
I have no problem with people who are into the Dead. Just don't try to convince me, it's been done too many times.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Friday, 21 August 2020 19:59 (four years ago) link
xp lol
― sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 19:59 (four years ago) link
xps Pat Fish a.k.a. The Jazz Butcher!!
― sleeve, Friday, 21 August 2020 20:01 (four years ago) link
yes!! I remember something related to Jazz -- that was quite nice!
meanwhile I kinda just want to listen to TFUL282 I Hope It Lands on repeat -- why? idk
― sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 20:03 (four years ago) link
that is the best TFUL282 album
went through that Stan Brakhage series 10 years ago, it comes to mind at the oddest moments, every episode is good
been ransacking everything at this website: http://theatticmag.com/features/2337/'this-is-not-intentionally-music'.-a-cedrik-fermont-interview.html
found website through googling Svitlana Nianio
― Milton Parker, Friday, 21 August 2020 20:11 (four years ago) link
& sarahell, you see this?
https://pleasekillme.com/pink-section-inflatable-boy-clams/
― Milton Parker, Friday, 21 August 2020 20:12 (four years ago) link
I keep thinking it must be a different band and it seems like an affectionate name only big fans would use.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 21 August 2020 20:13 (four years ago) link
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, August 21, 2020 12:52 PM (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
sorry, i mistyped, meant The Gay Dad
― brimstead, Friday, 21 August 2020 20:14 (four years ago) link
milty -- i got the reissues of those back when my band was a duo -- so 2014? 2015? ... Inflatable Boy Clams was a fave of my bandmate, whose ex-gf is, I think, dating that one guy from the 19th century bullshit band
― sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 20:17 (four years ago) link
Whenever I try giving the Dead another chance I end up listening to the Paul Butterfield Blues Band’s ‘East-West’ for the 23806th time.
― pomenitul, Friday, 21 August 2020 20:22 (four years ago) link
oh, that reissue came out before "flyergate" -- I think I stopped buying Superior V1aduct releases after flyergate ... geez, it seems surreal to think about the innocent times of flyergate compared to the election, G.S., ... now ...
― sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 20:26 (four years ago) link
xxxp lol
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 21 August 2020 20:28 (four years ago) link
Dadheads
― sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 20:28 (four years ago) link
anyway -- the way she sings "horrible mistake" on that song ... sigh, the best.
― sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 20:31 (four years ago) link
Oh mom, get back to me, bring me some snacksWhat I want to do in Marin is to relaxOh yeah I dig Marin, the views... are goodAnd everything is bettering me, I mean I feel, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah
― Milton Parker, Friday, 21 August 2020 20:50 (four years ago) link
God, I love Inflatable Boy Clams.
― emil.y, Friday, 21 August 2020 21:24 (four years ago) link
Same here. I remember playing them for a date once and he was so obsessed with I'm Sorry that we listened to it a few times while getting ridiculously baked. We set the fire alarm off lol
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Friday, 21 August 2020 23:12 (four years ago) link
Sarahell will know this person, too, which helps make the story funnier for the two of us.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Friday, 21 August 2020 23:13 (four years ago) link
omg who?!!!!!
table is the table was at the first gig my band played!
― sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 23:26 (four years ago) link
the way she sings "horrible mistake" on that song ... sigh, the best.
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3
― sleeve, Friday, 21 August 2020 23:49 (four years ago) link
best fucking band
― sleeve, Friday, 21 August 2020 23:50 (four years ago) link
at the 2004 reunion show in PDX this dude got up on stage, went around, and hugged each member individually. random fan otm.
(I got tons of love for IBC as well, but y'know there's only like 5 songs or w/e)
― sleeve, Friday, 21 August 2020 23:51 (four years ago) link
Sarahell, he's in the Y0ung3r Lover5
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Saturday, 22 August 2020 00:41 (four years ago) link
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
― sarahell, Saturday, 22 August 2020 03:25 (four years ago) link
some of you might like this album rolling punk 2020― flopson, Thursday, August 20, 2020 2:47 AM (six days ago)
I came here to post the home blitz. It's great.
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 26 August 2020 19:09 (four years ago) link
Latecomer to the new Cucina Povers album here. Gonna have to go back and relisten to her previous but this seems like a big leap forwards? Definitely pushing my buttons more than the one before (which I still really liked!) . I don't even really know what's going on but getting strong 'ancient music of a place that's never existed' feels. Multitracked vocals and some sparse synth that's played exactly the way our alien forebears intended, can't even think what else sounds like it really
― kites aren't fun (NickB), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link
I guess the glory days of Fonal Records are the neatest point of comparison? Islaja and stuff like that
― kites aren't fun (NickB), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link
(perks up ears)
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link
Just noticed the dumb auto correct in my post - it's Cucina Povera obv
― kites aren't fun (NickB), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 16:39 (three years ago) link
Just listened to the first few tracks and my it is gorgeous.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link
I guess 'weird music' fans might be into the Deathbomb Arc showcase? I didn't manage to follow along on the night but it's archived. Features a certain Soft Pink Dude, among many others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnp7XRXOWqw&
― emil.y, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link
loving the Cucina Povera, thanks. I feel like someone else here tipped me to her recently?
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 18:33 (three years ago) link
Paolo linked to one of her songs on this very thread a few months back
― kites aren't fun (NickB), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 18:59 (three years ago) link
Thanks for posting that video btw emily! I'm kind of out of touch with things so the only other thing I know from that is TALsounds.
― kites aren't fun (NickB), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link