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I've been listening to a lot of early hip-hop. (Is the Smithsonian Anthology of Hip-Hop and Rap still coming out this year?) Anyway, I programmed a brief historical survey - 30 songs from 1979 to 1992 - and I put it in strict chronological order. Within that context, I found a greater appreciation for Run-DMC. It's amazing how many a-holes I run into who are down on Run-DMC, like "why was this so great?" Never believed in that line of thought, but place within their context, it sinks in how radical they may have sounded to many listeners. The production, the beats, the overall sound of "It's Like That" (the original 12" single) is especially stark and minimalist compared to the songs that came before it - those Grandmaster Flash and Afrika Bambaataa singles were lean in their own ways too, but all the basic musical elements are stripped down even further. Even less movement in melody and even less notes in general. Even compared to earlier Run-DMC recordings like "Here We Go" and "Together Forever" (both live performances), there's a pronounced change in "It's Like That." The single more or less became the blueprint of their debut LP, which came about 6 or 7 months later (it's on there too, albeit in a shorter version), and it's amazing that it became the first hip-hop album to be certified gold - intuitively, I think of bigger selling records (records that are more accessible and more "pop") as being more tuneful and more lush, and yet a lot of the music on that album went in the opposite direction. ("Rock Box" is an exception on that album, and that's basically a blueprint for their next big development.)

birdistheword, Saturday, 22 August 2020 19:27 (four years ago) link

This is a bit later than the stuff you're talking about, but I got way into Raising Hell earlier this year. Absolutely holds up IMO.

JRN, Saturday, 22 August 2020 19:39 (four years ago) link

Yeah, "Raising Hell" is a great album. Their first four LP's (self-titled, King of Rock, Raising Hell, Tougher than Leather) are all really good-to-great. I love hearing them back-to-back because there is a continuous growth from one to the next that I really enjoy hearing in the way it unfolds. (It's frustrating that none of their compilations are in chronological order, because in their case it's not really a perfunctory way of sequencing their music - it actually works in their favor to hear their singles that way.)

birdistheword, Saturday, 22 August 2020 20:22 (four years ago) link

anyone who disputes the classic status of run-dmc in the 80s is on the wrong side of history.

me, i'm still on an organized noize kick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYUDZl21-g
this original extended version of "player's ball" is unbelievably good. always been my favorite version and it still somewhat frustrates me that most people still only know it in the unsatisfying reprise on their first album.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Saturday, 22 August 2020 21:12 (four years ago) link

No one ever disputes the first four Ramones records

Thoia Thoing, Maryland (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 22 August 2020 21:50 (four years ago) link

Ive been enjoying the album Doomsday by Agallah

flopson, Saturday, 22 August 2020 23:38 (four years ago) link

so there's a really old black eyed peas b-side called "le rox" that i've been looking for. it pre-dates even their first album. discogs seems to think it's a remix for fallin up but it's 100% not. i used to have that 12" single, but it's been lost to several moves over the years. i liked bep a lot when they first came out for those first two albums and i'm not even joking when i say that's probably their best song. i can't find it anywhere online.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 24 August 2020 17:39 (four years ago) link

i lieu of that, here's the 12" remix for "karma", which is probably the second best song they ever did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPlB9ADkc40

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 24 August 2020 17:48 (four years ago) link

It's on YouTube xp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A5RmYPNAPk

chonky floof (groovypanda), Monday, 24 August 2020 19:56 (four years ago) link

I'm absolutely loving Nate P's new book on the history of hip-hop/sampling except that every other sentence I want to put it down and listen to a track he references.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 August 2020 19:59 (four years ago) link

Like, I love old rap and Bill Laswell, and this is one of the most sampled song of all time, yet I'm somehow not sure I've ever heard it before!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqauvQkC6VQ

Scanning over the bazillion songs I have on file, it shows up on literally one comp I have! Allmusic shows it on only two random comps, at least one of which may be out of print. How is that even possible?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 August 2020 20:04 (four years ago) link

There was a really good DJ Tools primer in The Wire a month or so back and they discuss the F5F LP (which I too had never heard of)

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 24 August 2020 20:15 (four years ago) link

jfc why doesn't it show up when i search for it on youtube??!?! i'm not exaggerating when i say that i've checked youtube periodically searching "black eyed peas le rox" for the last six months and it's never once showed up.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 24 August 2020 20:43 (four years ago) link

me and andy made another one of our super long spotify playlists with a focus on 90s and early 2000s hiphop. andy has a way of finding a specific vibe in beats that unifies the weirdest stuff sometimes, but there's lots of deep cuts and plenty of that soulful jazzy head nodding vibe. check it out: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/34k3fXtlyerybcdRiJTqQR?si=HTu3a-7BT6G-DmXiFpfd1w

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 31 August 2020 18:31 (four years ago) link

https://youtu.be/rBLuvEwIF5E

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 4 September 2020 06:34 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

yukmouth - do my thang ft kurupt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwxWb2-4Onw

Spottie, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 19:24 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

so it's recently come to my attention that there was an entire album of mid-90s camp lo demos released some years back and holy hell i'm in heaven.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHZxHPH5zJA

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 29 January 2021 18:27 (three years ago) link

the mc blowfish verse from this in my head all day; why do I still remember every word of this 30 years later?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru7RVQs3P6o

but it also keeps morphing into this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDhdOOBbFo8

joygoat, Thursday, 4 February 2021 22:50 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o6y1xAO9-4

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Thursday, 4 February 2021 23:18 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2BR0pHmizw

xzanfar, Friday, 5 February 2021 00:51 (three years ago) link

Be Easy was my ringtone for several years and the last one I had prior to Uppers.gif

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 February 2021 03:17 (three years ago) link

wow, i sort of love super wolf and i've never heard it before right now.

(looks up info)

produced by denise lasalle. what a find!

as for me, xpost to the scritti politti thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kwjosqoNDs

(scritti featuring lee majors + mos def — "tinseltown to boogiedown (ali shaheed remix)"

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 12 February 2021 04:46 (three years ago) link

not "old" but there's no thread for "random 2019 rap you are loving"

shy glizzy - volcano
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2VGlcb8Pf8

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Saturday, 13 February 2021 00:25 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2BR0pHmizw

xzanfar, Friday, 26 February 2021 21:48 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Mama said knock you out. Marley Marl was so funky on this. Often weirdly understated too. Milky cereal is also a lot of fun.

candyman, Monday, 22 March 2021 06:32 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

OMG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnefJySR1nI

(da 5 footaz — "short times" featuring roger troutman)

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Sunday, 18 April 2021 00:36 (three years ago) link

okay, this album is legitimately great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgHrWqgTPTA

(da 5 footaz — "5 foot city" featuring warren g and a terrific riff on an old prince b-side i mean holy shit this beat)

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Sunday, 18 April 2021 00:59 (three years ago) link

and now the next track is produced by and featuring erik sermon. WHY WAS THE ALBUM SHELVED I AM ANGRY

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Sunday, 18 April 2021 01:01 (three years ago) link

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTMSvdYZJ8o;>ice mike</a> layin'it on the stick

doo rag, Monday, 19 April 2021 10:43 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WccF90kVl78

doo rag, Monday, 19 April 2021 10:48 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2avNR80F4gw

doo rag, Monday, 19 April 2021 10:54 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOmmLjvC8B8

doo rag, Monday, 19 April 2021 11:02 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRS62nccwmw

xzanfar, Monday, 19 April 2021 16:43 (three years ago) link

o.g. piggo

the rootin' tootin' roots

doo rag, Monday, 19 April 2021 22:55 (three years ago) link

i have a pigmeat movie poster card framed in my kitchen for https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0135460/

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 01:12 (three years ago) link

reposting this from the ODB thread because holy shit this is a major ODB find IMO

WOW

so this is a track called "Drug Free" off the Deadly Venoms album (a Wu affiliated all-woman group - all vets N-Tyce, J-Boo, Champ MC, and Finesse) which was never formally released but I guess CD promos escaped.

anyway, this is up there with the all-time unhinged ODB performances

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb_Plk87qwI

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 14:11 (three years ago) link

wow! on US spotify too.

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 18:53 (three years ago) link

N Tyce "Hush Hush Tip" is one of my fav songs w/ Method Man on the hook i remember hearing on the radio as a kid

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 19:07 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV7aOnX7XeE

xzanfar, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 20:10 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7Ae31yMfSc

brimstead, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 20:24 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

`meaningless composition lacking purpose.`

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnOpB_EKY_4

treblefree featuring plee — "irony" (2008)

shoutout to schematix \m/

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 25 May 2021 15:28 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOFKU_hwj2o

xzanfar, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 16:20 (three years ago) link

hehe that hits the spot

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 15:52 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

I'd never seen this video before. Really incredible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z5aFdvE2jc

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 18:48 (three years ago) link

what a find!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 19:25 (three years ago) link

Whoa cool, ty for sharing D

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 20:33 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb3TgyF1Zbc

xzanfar, Tuesday, 13 July 2021 23:58 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76FaSHrH7XI

MOOD - Info for the Streets

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 17 July 2021 17:19 (three years ago) link


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