thread to dis hyped releases that you don't get/don't like/wanna complain about

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contemplate nihil? Liturgy's entire philosophy/life/music is geared around the idea that there is no void, that there is meaning and divine presence and substance. it is all terribly optimistic and i can see why its jubilant promises of God might lie at odds with a voidgazer's perspective

me, i vacillate between the positions of void and divine, so i require both sorts of metal, innit

imago, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:15 (four years ago) link

when i spoke of kicking ass while gazing into the void I was thinking more Darkspace or our darling Ruins Of Beverast lol

imago, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:16 (four years ago) link

Ah, that makes more sense.

I have no bone to pick with the irruption of the theological into black metal, as long as it’s conceived as kenosis.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:18 (four years ago) link

there he is with his deathspell omega

imago, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:18 (four years ago) link

That’s not where I picked it up (had to google the connection just now) and as far as I’m concerned Paracletus is the only album of theirs I fully endorse.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:33 (four years ago) link

Liturgy's entire philosophy/life/music is geared around the idea that there is no void, that there is meaning and divine presence and substance.

he's just some dude

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:44 (four years ago) link

'he'? check yr receipts dude

imago, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:47 (four years ago) link

or are you referring to god the divine, lol

imago, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:48 (four years ago) link

sorry

boognish

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:49 (four years ago) link

Theos is both masculine and feminine in Ancient Greek iirc.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:50 (four years ago) link

Theos Huxtable

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:04 (four years ago) link

The Liturgy album is good but it is not in any sense a metal record.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:16 (four years ago) link

I mean, in some sense it is clearly a metal record. So far it feels more like a metal sensibility subsuming other influences than some other genre toying with metal signifiers.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:27 (four years ago) link

So far it feels more like a metal sensibility subsuming other influences than some other genre toying with metal signifiers.

Once you've heard it all the way through — I'm reviewing it for The Wire — I think you'll have the opposite impression. To me it feels like an attempt at modern composition, with the occasional blast beat and/or metal riff (a little BM here, a little doom there) popping up and lots of glitching and high-pitched sine-wave tones.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:37 (four years ago) link

Contemporary classical music for people who hate/ignore contemporary classical music (I’m looking at you, (redacted)).

pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:40 (four years ago) link

B-)

imago, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:55 (four years ago) link

couldn't sell that Liturgy/Oval split LP fast enough, glad it's gone

wontgetfooledagain.flv

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:05 (four years ago) link

Wait, so I can catch up, are we talking about HAQQ or the even newer one? I lost track.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:10 (four years ago) link

The new one. I’ve only streamed the two tracks that are currently available on BC ahead of the album’s official release on Friday.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:12 (four years ago) link

Thx, haven't played those ones yet.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:13 (four years ago) link

Thinking about the void of subjectivity

— Liturgy (@LITVRGY) November 18, 2020

imago, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 19:18 (four years ago) link

That's fair unperson, curious to hear the rest. So far I've been happy to enjoy them as black metal for people who hate/ignore black metal. :)

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 19:44 (four years ago) link

Feeling very vindicated rn.

xp

pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 19:50 (four years ago) link

lol!

Not one to hold back but we're still only talking about the two tracks that are up, no? I thought HAQQ was a magnificent achievement and can't wait for the new one, but I do not enjoy hearing her tracks in isolation, so I'll hold out (did hear the first one released, which I liked) judgement.

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 19 November 2020 10:26 (three years ago) link

I haven't listened to Liturgy since Aesthethica and I like the new one quite a bit (while recognizing its flaws) so...it definitely bears hearing in full, I'll say that much.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 19 November 2020 10:31 (three years ago) link

It was the same w/ HAQQ, where one track really did not tell the whole story imo, so I'll await impatiently.

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 19 November 2020 10:33 (three years ago) link

“Dirtbag dudes have Larry David and I have Phoebe Waller-Bridge. She strikes a fucking chord in me.” A few months ago Phoebe Bridgers told us about how Phoebe Waller-Bridge inspired her album Punisher, and now they've worked together on a music video: https://t.co/pTrUs3P45g pic.twitter.com/wfBnJJZLbz

— Pitchfork (@pitchfork) December 2, 2020

I shall vomit forever

imago, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 23:41 (three years ago) link

I mean I've not even heard the album maybe it's good lol

imago, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 23:42 (three years ago) link

It's ok, very SoCal posh.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 23:43 (three years ago) link

it's really good!!!!

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 23:59 (three years ago) link

i feel like i rarely dis hyped releases in this thread so:

thundercat: he's always on year-end lists and i have yet to hear any music from him that i actually like

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 December 2020 00:11 (three years ago) link

otmfm

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 3 December 2020 00:12 (three years ago) link

excellent shout

imago, Thursday, 3 December 2020 00:12 (three years ago) link

I feel that, but Andy Kellman adores thundercat so I automatically put his stuff in the "maybe it's just me" basket.

Tim F, Thursday, 3 December 2020 00:14 (three years ago) link

Are any of you Zappa fans.

pomenitul, Thursday, 3 December 2020 00:14 (three years ago) link

No

imago, Thursday, 3 December 2020 00:15 (three years ago) link

Just checking. Neither am I and Thundercat likewise elicits a polite 'interesting' from me.

pomenitul, Thursday, 3 December 2020 00:18 (three years ago) link

i made myself a zappa fan this summer but i would consider myself a reluctant one

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 December 2020 00:19 (three years ago) link

I feel that, but Andy Kellman adores thundercat so I automatically put his stuff in the "maybe it's just me" basket.

― Tim F, Wednesday, December 2, 2020 5:14 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

hmmm have to take this into consideration

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 December 2020 00:19 (three years ago) link

I like Thundercat in small doses, but it all gets very samey to me quite quickly.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 3 December 2020 01:04 (three years ago) link

Thundercat's music is...fine, but you're better off just listening to George Duke.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 3 December 2020 01:16 (three years ago) link

I am a Zappa fan ftr, I own half a dozen Mothers LPs and maybe 4 Zappas

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 3 December 2020 01:32 (three years ago) link

he sucks though

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 3 December 2020 01:32 (three years ago) link

Someone just gave me a $100 credit for the Universal Music webstore and I spent about five minutes seriously considering buying the 6CD Hot Rats box, but...no.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 3 December 2020 02:01 (three years ago) link

Zappa = classic

actually-very-convincing (Sund4r), Thursday, 3 December 2020 02:14 (three years ago) link

I like and own Hot Rats, but 6 CDs seems excessive

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 3 December 2020 02:16 (three years ago) link

Oh yeah, not classic enough for that.

actually-very-convincing (Sund4r), Thursday, 3 December 2020 02:16 (three years ago) link

Phoebe Bridgers is generally not my thing, although I tried (in case anyone is eagerly awaiting my opinions on confessional singer-songwriters). I can see why people find it interesting.

actually-very-convincing (Sund4r), Thursday, 3 December 2020 02:23 (three years ago) link

I am a Zappa fan ftr, I own half a dozen Mothers LPs and maybe 4 Zappas
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, December 2, 2020 8:32 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

he sucks though
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, December 2, 2020 8:32 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

perfect

early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 3 December 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link

I love that Hot Rats box, tbh, and I'm not even a huge Zappa fan. I really love that album though and there's a lot of good shit.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 December 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link


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