thread to dis hyped releases that you don't get/don't like/wanna complain about

Oh yeah, not classic enough for that.

Phoebe Bridgers is generally not my thing, although I tried (in case anyone is eagerly awaiting my opinions on confessional singer-songwriters). I can see why people find it interesting.

I am a Zappa fan ftr, I own half a dozen Mothers LPs and maybe 4 Zappas
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he sucks though
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perfect

I love that Hot Rats box, tbh, and I'm not even a huge Zappa fan. I really love that album though and there's a lot of good shit.

I also do not get the Phoebe Bridgers hype, I can only imagine hearing it in the last five minutes of some overly sentimental tv drama

I just wasted several minutes of my life listening to "I Know the End."

Are all Bridgers songs this affectless and without an iota of soul?

Yes.

Well, then I hate it, who cares about the Bridgers record.

haven't listened yet; i'll cross that Phoebe when I get to it

I'm an idiot, I actually just put it together that she's in boygenius, and this song really fucks with me in the best way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T5zc36sAIE

Still, I like all the boygenius songs a lot better than that one Bridgers song I listened to just now.

yeah I like the boy genius record. I like the covers Lucy Daucus released last year, I should check her own stuff out

"me & my dog" is phoebe's masterpiece but the album gets close several times. listen with an open heart

shoutout phoebe bidges

:D

Christ these people are so fucking young.

You fucking people make me old

still feeling a little bit gaslit by everyone who insists taylor swift is a great lyricist tbh

Only a little bit?

they're not BAD just...fine

otm, but since I don't listen to her music I try to give people the benefit of the doubt that they sound more striking/incisive/evocative in context?

Her appeal is honestly mystifying to me

...I have a vague suspicion that it is somehow related to like musicals

I fucking hate musicals with a passion (worst music ever imo, by a country mile) and I fucking loathe every Taytay song I've ever heard, so you're on to something.

worse than metal?

According to, uh, me? Because, well…

(sorry, that was meant to be a playful troll)

I don't listen to her so please expand. What does her approach have to do with musicals?

Tbf, rob, everybody knows the two worst are country and rap, assuming you like every kind of music.

I mean, it is true that Taylor stans love a good narrative

I do like every kind of music: reggae AND dancehall

Idk, something about overly sentimental songs being performed in overly broad way, possibly in a way that suggests that she doesn't fully believe in the sentiment and the audience knows that, but she's gonna sell it anyway and they're gonna buy it?

Or maybe it's just I know a few people who are really into both, and I don't like either.

i've always gotten a kind of "disney" vibe from taylor, but i have no idea why or how to articulate that feeling.

nb, i have not heard the two recent albums and i enjoy several songs from disney movies

lol yes, the biggest Taylor stan I know is obsessed with Disney (and goes there for most adult vacations)

Disney songs tend to have better melodies. Not only is Taytay's music generic, it's also utterly hookless. And she can't sing for shit.

idk i think it's a little extravagant to argue she's not good at writing/singing pop songs. i just really don't like / relate to her persona - very Not For Me and that's ok.

there are plenty of people better-suited to defending taylor than i, but "hookless" isn't an adjective i'd use to describe her songwriting.

I honestly find her songs indistinctive and unmemorable on top of being, like, really fucking annoying. It's the sole silver lining as far as I'm concerned.

I think I lack the gene to process her music.

same tbh, although I certainly haven't given them the chance to grow on me

I would defend her, but this is a thread for hate

Thanks for respecting our safe space. :)

I appreciate your restraint sleeve. fwiw it's worth, I was going to post "more like the Odyssey to Folklore's Iliad" on the new thread but decided that was dickish

I guess that's worth nothing now that I've posted it

Don't be so hard on yourself.

haha that's solid

(the new one does not have my interest, but I like Folklore a lot)

"The Archer" made my tracks list!

The Archer was about Vangelis.

I like better music than all of you, so there.

Thank goodness for this thread! I was starting to feel like the only one.

I liked Lover,, but I did not get the excitement about folklore at all, and for the most part I don't get evermore either.

I think Taylor is capable of writing a concise, effective lyric when she's working in the framework of a pop song - something like "22" or "Blank Space," - but I think folklore lets her give into all her worst impulses lyrically. She doesn't have to fit her lyrics into the shorter lines of a pop song, so she has complete freedom to torture all of her metaphors to death.

I think she's not bad at writing about herself, especially when she can bring herself to be self-critical, as she is on Lover. I really hate her "storytelling," most of which reminds me of YA romance novels and movies starring Reese Witherspoon.

My favorite Taylor song is "The Archer," for what it's worth.