METAL MACHINE MUSIC POLL

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tbh I've always wondered how much thought or intentionality Reed put into the recording/composing and never really settled on a satisfying answer. He always went back and forth between representing it as a carefully considered piece of New Music vs saying it was a joke or kissoff to RCA that he didnt give a shit about. I guess both could be true. Sometimes the fact that he never really explored this kind of thing again (on record anyway) has made me suspicious, but on the other hand, once youve done MMM, how much farther can you go?

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 11 December 2020 21:07 (three years ago) link

Lulu, obv ;)

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Friday, 11 December 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link

Didn’t Lee Ranaldo identify quickly some random portion of this record in an Invisible Jukebox?

Yelploaf, Friday, 11 December 2020 21:19 (three years ago) link

to be fair, that's pretty easy to do! the overall palette is fairly consistent

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Friday, 11 December 2020 21:22 (three years ago) link

Pretty cool that these fundamental questions about the album still persist after this many years.

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Friday, 11 December 2020 21:23 (three years ago) link

well its more can you go oh yeah that's about 1/3 through side 2 not oh yeah that's from MMM innit

Stevolende, Friday, 11 December 2020 21:28 (three years ago) link

Pretty cool that these fundamental questions about the album still persist after this many years.

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pomenitul, Friday, 11 December 2020 21:29 (three years ago) link

I think Lou had a genuine appreciation for the sounds he heard coming out of his amplifiers, and also an appreciation for the absurdity of putting a double album of it out on RCA records in 1975. He was also having management difficulties with Dennis Katz, and probably enjoyed the taste of career suicide that the record release brought.

Hudson River Meditations, although I haven't heard the whole thing, is kind of a sequel to this record.

I'll decide which side is the best after listening to one per night, in a state of relaxed concentration, the same way it was created.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 11 December 2020 21:33 (three years ago) link

Reed v. Bangs was the Fischer v. Spassky of the rock press’ golden era, two masters in their respective fields matching each other move-for-move.

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 11 December 2020 21:39 (three years ago) link

well its more can you go oh yeah that's about 1/3 through side 2 not oh yeah that's from MMM innit

― Stevolende

if that's what Ranaldo did, then \m/ respect

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Friday, 11 December 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link

He did!

Tizer Beyoncé (Tom D.), Friday, 11 December 2020 22:01 (three years ago) link

we should get him to tell us what part was used for the anthology!

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Friday, 11 December 2020 22:04 (three years ago) link

Fuck Lester Bangs.

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 12 December 2020 00:02 (three years ago) link

Why? I think those Lou pieces are great.

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Saturday, 12 December 2020 00:09 (three years ago) link

When Lou died I played MMM straight through about 3 times, it was a beautiful transcendence.

assert (MatthewK), Saturday, 12 December 2020 00:23 (three years ago) link

Lester was Lou's Loyal Opposition.

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 12 December 2020 00:23 (three years ago) link

Lester was vile about Rachel and Lou never forgave him for it.

Tizer Beyoncé (Tom D.), Saturday, 12 December 2020 00:24 (three years ago) link

Oh, forgot about that.

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 12 December 2020 00:26 (three years ago) link

Or as Lou put it, "He's fat, he has a moustache and I wouldn't shit in his nose".

Tizer Beyoncé (Tom D.), Saturday, 12 December 2020 00:27 (three years ago) link

I don’t recall what he wrote about Rachel, either; but I can imagine it being uncool.

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Saturday, 12 December 2020 01:45 (three years ago) link

it was

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Saturday, 12 December 2020 02:06 (three years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 00:01 (three years ago) link

Side C, for the bit where it sounds like a piano, over Side D's bit where it sounds like trumpets.

The extreme stereo separation made me think of Warhol's Chelsea Girls, where you have two different screens at either end of the room, showing different scenes. The total psychological effect also reminded me of Burroughs' cut-up books, where pushing though the experience changes the way your brain is working.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 23:40 (three years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 00:01 (three years ago) link

THREE FOUR ONE TWO!

Mark G, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 09:19 (three years ago) link

Thank god, I always skip side 2

assert (MatthewK), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 09:27 (three years ago) link

It's the "incidental detail" of the set.

It leaves you with the "rule of three" anyway.

Mark G, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 14:46 (three years ago) link

One time I listened to this at half speed and reversed, which seemed to reveal that at least some of the material recorded had been sped up and reversed for the album. And also it sounded like an Eno ambient album. Recommended.

You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link

Oh dude, of course someone has posted a video of exactly this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5at9lvXQ8jI

Doesn't sound quite as much like an Eno ambient album as I remembered, lol.

You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 14:54 (three years ago) link


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