So, what if anything do yall think of The Times? Lots of complaints on Amazon, but I liked the phonebooth session well enough, so wondering about this.
― dow, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link
pretty inessential, but it's OK. The version of "Little Wing" is lovely.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 20:22 (three years ago) link
this has probably been noted a million times, but i love that part in Speakin' Out when he spotlights Nils Lofgren's guitar solo with an "Alright, Nils" that sounds just like "Alright Neils", which makes it sound like the entire band is named Neil too
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 20:33 (three years ago) link
Is this ever ending up on Apple Music/Spotify do we reckon? Will the separate albums surface on vinyl?
― Change Display Name: (stevie), Saturday, 2 January 2021 15:14 (three years ago) link
i bet it'll be on streaming services eventually. he's said that they may put out separate albums on vinyl — specifically the Dume disc, but maybe others.
― tylerw, Saturday, 2 January 2021 15:30 (three years ago) link
Loving the “Sleeps With Angels” mini doc up on NYA. One of my fave NYCH albums so it’s great to see them in the studio putting it together.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 2 January 2021 18:04 (three years ago) link
congrats on the salehttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55557633
― StanM, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 11:33 (three years ago) link
Is there some timing thing that has been triggering all of these catalog sales? Or just one of those, "hey, Dylan did this, must be some money to be made"?
My wife got me the much cheaper, second pressing of the Archives II box, can't believe I still have two more months to wait for it.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 15:13 (three years ago) link
The only thing I can think of is that there are big holding companies willing to buy them up? Then again, there was that whole thing back when with Michael Jackson, Paul McCartney, and the rights to the Beatles and Buddy Holly and whatever else they could buy up, so catalogs as a commodity are nothing new. Bowie Bonds were a thing, too, though I don't know what happened in the end.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 15:16 (three years ago) link
I subbed to the NYA today, loving Archives II so far. Raised On Robbery!!!
― SDFG SDFG SDFG SDFG SDFG SDFG SF (stevie), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 15:22 (three years ago) link
WTF at the company being named "Hipgnosis"
― J. Sam, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 15:37 (three years ago) link
Co-founded by Nile Rodgers!! Whoa.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 15:38 (three years ago) link
Apparently actually named after the other Hipgnosis. Can you do that? Name one company the same thing as another company, in tribute?Also, co-founded by Nile Rodgers!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 15:39 (three years ago) link
ha
Thank god Neil Young will no longer have to worry about going hungry
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 15:45 (three years ago) link
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, January 6, 2021 9:13 AM (thirty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I mean the elephant in the room: estate planning for guys who aren't going to be around for much longer
also, i'm sure their financial advisors feel like these valuations are at the peak right now, a large portion of their core audience is their age as well...like how much would the Elvis Presley catalog be worth right now? He's just faded out as that original rock n' roll generation went into nursing homes
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 15:50 (three years ago) link
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
― a (waterface), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 15:51 (three years ago) link
Oh sure, age is certainly the key motivator here, it just seems like there's been a huge flurry of these sales lately and I wondered if maybe there was some copyright clock that also factored in or something to make it all happen now.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 15:52 (three years ago) link
Is there some timing thing that has been triggering all of these catalog sales?
I skimmed the accompanying article, and it said that it's an investment that is relatively immune to bad times like now. Movies and TV shows will still be made that seek copyright permission, radio stations will still play music. Makes sense.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 15:53 (three years ago) link
I guess that's obvious--you mean from the seller's standpoint?
― clemenza, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 15:54 (three years ago) link
i'm sure too that it's probably just nice to get out of the game, get more money than you'll ever need, set up your children and grandchildren for life...not worrying about who's fucking you out of what percentage of this or that every month
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 15:56 (three years ago) link
Neil's dough came from touring and royalties, and he never sold songs for use in ads (obviously) or used corporate sponsorship for tours. But he can't tour for the foreseeable future, and his records were never massive sellers along the lines of, say, Stones or Zep records. He's got expensive hobbies (not Pete-Townshend-boat-collection expensive, but expensive nonetheless) and likely figured if he's ever gonna get a massive payday, better sooner than later.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 15:57 (three years ago) link
I suppose another way to look at it is these dudes are finally getting back the millions and millions their labels likely stole from them over the years.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 15:59 (three years ago) link
Oh I absolutely understand all the motivations behind the whys of doing this, I get it! I just wondered if there was more than just the loss of touring income that triggered it to all happen right now.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 16:01 (three years ago) link
Like is Hipgnosis more aggressively courting these musicians in COVID times? Just curious is all.
All this is discussion is fine but can we please address the REAL ISSUE?!
Who here knows Nile Rodgers and how do we get Tyler in control of the Neil reissues?
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 16:02 (three years ago) link
"Nile I represent a consortium of internet nerds and we have a proposal to place one of our own in charge of all Neil Young's reissues. Yes. Yes. The internet. Yes. Actually it is all in the file in front of you, yes the one labeled "DOGHOUSE". We did a poll."
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 16:05 (three years ago) link
And for the record I am 100% not joking
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 16:07 (three years ago) link
giving tyler control of the neil's catalog should be part of biden's first 100 days agenda
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 16:08 (three years ago) link
^^^^^ otm
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 16:09 (three years ago) link
otm
― All cars are bad (Euler), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 16:09 (three years ago) link
Here's me talking to Nile
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0a/a5/df/0aa5df586157606a116a50c03706b307.jpg
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 16:10 (three years ago) link
stimulus package includes archives vol. II for all americans
― tylerw, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 16:10 (three years ago) link
campaigner!
― All cars are bad (Euler), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 16:18 (three years ago) link
"Even the venture capitalists who own my catalog have got soul!"
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 16:21 (three years ago) link
another vote for Tyler and I'm not even American
― StanM, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 16:21 (three years ago) link
i actually imagine the deal doesn't have anything to do with how / when neil releases his music, though — it's just publishing, right? he still owns the masters? don't listen to me though, i don't know anything about this stuff.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link
suckers only bought the half with the geffen albums.— jesse jarnow (@bourgwick) January 6, 2021
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 16:43 (three years ago) link
RELEASE THE KRAKEN ALL SYNTH VERSION OF TRANS!!!!!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 16:46 (three years ago) link
They only bought the A sides? xpost
― StanM, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 17:22 (three years ago) link
i actually imagine the deal doesn't have anything to do with how / when neil releases his music, though — it's just publishing, right?
correct. hipgnosis has shown an interest in buying masters, too, but virtually all of these sales are publishing only.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link
... does this mean everything that was coming up is going to be rescheduled again
― StanM, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 18:51 (three years ago) link
It shouldn't impact that at all, since it's just the publishing end. Lord knows Neil needs no further reasons to delay his promised releases.
Isn't that first batch of "bootlegs" due out soon?
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 18:52 (three years ago) link
I'm afraid to look
― StanM, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 18:55 (three years ago) link
I checked the articles again, guess it was "beginning of 2021" for those bootleg series releases. For some reason I had February in mind.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 18:58 (three years ago) link
the rust bucket 1990 crazy horse show comes out next month, bootlegs are now scheduled for May, I think.
there's even artwork for one of the bootlegs ... which isn't even the bootleg recording, it's neil's own master recording. confusing!
https://images.ctfassets.net/2okapnzdylk2/6rd9qChRfQlG5dKhU0WUc0/1141ac2013cd585e5b203e97ac17a315/NYAbootleg1-carnegiehall1970.jpg
― tylerw, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 19:04 (three years ago) link
which isn't even the bootleg recording, it's neil's own master recording. confusing!
lol Neil, never change
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 19:15 (three years ago) link
Neil fans might dig this:
https://wettuna.bandcamp.com/track/walk-on
Wet Tuna (Matt MV Valentine & Pat PG Six Gubler) have a killer 16-minute version of "Walk On" on their latest Eau'd To A Fake Bookie volume.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 8 January 2021 00:03 (three years ago) link
Thanks for that.
― Duke, Friday, 8 January 2021 12:25 (three years ago) link
https://neilyoungarchives.com/news/1/article?id=A-Message-From-Neil-sadness-and-compassion
I'm going to guess he will get some flak for the last couple of paragraphs.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 22:26 (three years ago) link