Didn't even know about Way Down...listening to the 3 tracks that have been released now, on Spotify. Sounds good.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 18:04 (three years ago) link
it really is one of the best Neil Young + Crazy Horse shows ... aside from maybe a missing "Down By The River" it's got everything you want.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 18:15 (three years ago) link
haha oh man i just notice it's got a 6:45 T-BONE
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 18:38 (three years ago) link
gotta bring a t-bone to the doghouse for a little treat
lot of 10 minute+ songs too, always a good sign
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 18:47 (three years ago) link
oh yeah, Cowgirl In The Sand is on the DVD only, for some reason
― StanM, Thursday, 25 February 2021 18:21 (three years ago) link
Apparently the mobile truck had power issues during that song, and that caused some large dropouts in the multi-track whenever the power cut out. So Neil decided he didn't want it on the CD and vinyl releases for that reason alone, and economically it helped because it kept the whole package to two CD's and 4 LP's rather than 3 CD's and 5 LP's.
For the DVD, they reportedly filled the dropouts with a copy of the house feed, and even though it is a substantial drop in fidelity, I guess Neil thought having video over it was enough to smooth out the jarring degradation in sound quality.
Here's a trailer for the DVD:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVE7MYBrroQ
People did ask him about a Blu-ray and he said he didn't believe the picture quality warranted a Blu-ray. That's not entirely true - at least with a Blu-ray, it wouldn't be subject to further degradation from the data compression inherent in DVD encoding. But he's not entirely wrong either - as you can see from the trailer, it's old SD video, so it's not going to look good resolution-wise, especially on a 4K TV screen.
FWIW, if you don't want to spring for the super deluxe sets in order to get the DVD, you can buy it as a standalone from the Greedy Hand Store (i.e. Neil's official online store through WB). https://neilyoung.warnerrecords.com/ It's supposed to be exclusive to the store, and it'll cost $20 before shipping and taxes. It's the same deal with the Shakespeare DVD - the standalone is exclusive to the store and priced the same. If you get those two plus spend another $10 on something else, shipping's free.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 25 February 2021 20:51 (three years ago) link
I guess I should say "mobile recording truck." It's not like the truck was moving.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 25 February 2021 20:52 (three years ago) link
hadn't read that Cowgirl explanation yet, thx
― StanM, Thursday, 25 February 2021 21:03 (three years ago) link
it's out in the wild! just started...Neil's going off on the end of Country Home
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 February 2021 14:56 (three years ago) link
Smell The Horse! Expanded version of Ragged Glory! second paragraph:
https://neilyoungarchives.com/news/1/article?id=WDITRB-Now-Available-Everywhere
― StanM, Friday, 26 February 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link
https://neilyoungarchives.com/news/1/article?id=ORS-5-ragged-glory-smell-the-horse also (but the Rust Bucket article contains the info on the extra tracks)
― StanM, Friday, 26 February 2021 17:50 (three years ago) link
smell the horse: none more horser
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 26 February 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link
you all loved Doghouse: here's Horsehouse!
― StanM, Friday, 26 February 2021 17:53 (three years ago) link
Is Rust Bucket streaming on NYA? It is not showing up for me.
I fucking hate Neil? Why am I paying for this fucking bullshit.
― perhaps I myself was the object of my search (PBKR), Friday, 26 February 2021 17:56 (three years ago) link
haha
new tracks:Born to RunInterstateBoxcarDon't Spook the Horse
this is apparently born to run, good stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhx87Xfvs_k
Boxcar is on Chrome Dreams II in a folkier, stray gators style version
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 February 2021 17:58 (three years ago) link
xpost - it is - on the home screen there's a little new live album thing click on that
Jesus Fucking Christ!!!!
Why would the new big release only be available via a small link in the upper corner of the front cabinet on the homepage but not through the Rust Bucket link in the cabinet or on the timeline? This guy is a fucking asshole. Having to pay $ to navigate his stupid website is infuriating. This is literally ruining my enjoyment of the album.
― perhaps I myself was the object of my search (PBKR), Friday, 26 February 2021 18:03 (three years ago) link
I'm pretty savvy about websites generally, but this makes me feel like I'm fucking 90 and wondering how the kids' tiktoks work.
― perhaps I myself was the object of my search (PBKR), Friday, 26 February 2021 18:04 (three years ago) link
you gotta give into that part of the process
― a (waterface), Friday, 26 February 2021 18:07 (three years ago) link
Ok, now I see that by Neil Fucking Young Logic, we need to split the Rust Bucket release into separate releases for the *album* and the *DVD* and place one of them (DVD) on the timeline based on release date (today) and the other (album) on the timeline based on recording date 1990 with no reference or link between them. This shit is fucking sadistic.
― perhaps I myself was the object of my search (PBKR), Friday, 26 February 2021 18:08 (three years ago) link
This album would have to be better than 1000 blowjobs to make up for how annoyed I am right now.
― perhaps I myself was the object of my search (PBKR), Friday, 26 February 2021 18:09 (three years ago) link
honestly, I ended up pre-ordering the CD box set of Archives II because, after the first few days, I have barely listened to a release that I have been waiting years for, it's just so wonky, really looking forward to getting the CDs so I can just get into it like normal music
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 February 2021 18:14 (three years ago) link
I just bought the standalone DVD's for both Rust Bucket and Shakespeare. I just want an easy way to play this shit, and as others have mentioned elsewhere, I'm much more invested in the music (mentally, not financially) if I have a physical album in front of me rather than rummaging through an online file system.
In terms of cost, the price seems fair if you take the super deluxe sets and subtract the price of the CD and vinyl-only sets (maybe a few dollars more, which seems reasonable given how much less you have to buy).
― birdistheword, Friday, 26 February 2021 19:38 (three years ago) link
but hasn't he already released a ton of shit on NYA that isn't on the box set?
Threads like these make me grateful I'm only a casual fan. Has there ever been an artist more sadistic to his fans?
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 26 February 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link
'Ol Pagey is pretty sadistic about Zep live/catalog releases. Honestly, most 'classic rock' estates/artists/consortiums seem fairly sadistic about releases when compared to the turn & burn of the new fangled means of music distribution/releases. Perhaps some grifty Kickstarters are in order. That said, 'Rust Bucket' sounding pretty excellent tonight. My fave horse year for sure.
― BlackIronPrison, Friday, 26 February 2021 23:10 (three years ago) link
whenever i start to get frustrated with neil, i just listen to some neil ... and all is forgiven.
― tylerw, Friday, 26 February 2021 23:21 (three years ago) link
lol T-Bone off Rust Bucket is as ridiculous as I hoped
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 February 2021 23:34 (three years ago) link
This album would have to be better than 1000 blowjobs to make up for how annoyed I am right now.― perhaps I myself was the object of my search (PBKR), Friday, February 26, 2021 1:09 PM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― perhaps I myself was the object of my search (PBKR), Friday, February 26, 2021 1:09 PM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
I'm 3:52 into Over and Over and it's definitely better than some blowjobs - how many remains to be seen as there are 6+ minutes left - but I'm floating on a wave of distortion and I needed this in my life right this moment.
― perhaps I myself was the object of my search (PBKR), Friday, 26 February 2021 23:47 (three years ago) link
been so overexposed to it that it's hard to really *hear* it, but every once in a while, Cinnamon Girl will hit me like the first time....what a great riff
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 27 February 2021 03:19 (three years ago) link
The DVD reportedly has shittier sound than the CD, and supposedly you can hear the difference in these YouTube clips:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3Ax9Z2-OgI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FsP7OL681Y
― birdistheword, Sunday, 28 February 2021 02:01 (three years ago) link
yeah ok, but it's still better than the bootleg/audience recording we had and enjoyed for 30 years so I don't mind
― StanM, Sunday, 28 February 2021 07:33 (three years ago) link
Hopefully a good week for Neil in my house. Really digging Way Down in the Rust Bucket today (I could live in his guitar tone for days) and the Archives II box should be getting here Friday (finally!).
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 16:27 (three years ago) link
I never thanked TylerW for that great hour of deep cuts he posted two weeks ago - thank you, enjoying it lots, still.
― StanM, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 18:22 (three years ago) link
glad you liked it!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 18:45 (three years ago) link
vinyl came todaysounds great!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 19:17 (three years ago) link
xp the 1992 Center Stage show? if so, same here. i've watched it three times already, and especially love the renditions of the Harvest Moon songs. "Unknown Legend", the title track, "Dreaming Man", "from Hank to Hendrix", "Natural Beauty". so good. "Unknown Legend" in particular, hit me hard the other day, in a new way, and it was a great comfort.
iow, thank you tylerw, i like it too <3
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 19:29 (three years ago) link
ha, no — this thing: https://aquariumdrunkard.com/2021/02/08/neil-young-a-few-honey-slides/
― tylerw, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 19:35 (three years ago) link
(that centerstage thing is grrrrrreat though)
Fingers still crossed for Archives II showing up Friday!
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 19:38 (three years ago) link
xp i will be sure to give that a listen today as well! :)
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 19:43 (three years ago) link
one thing that ended up cool on the vinyl is that disc 4 is "Love and Only Love" > "Cortez"/whole side of "Like a Hurricane"
down the road when i just want to listen to mega crazy horse jams will be nice to throw this on as a single album
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 4 March 2021 14:25 (three years ago) link
definitely some moments on that "love and only love" that are up there with neil's best guitar work ever.
― tylerw, Thursday, 4 March 2021 15:22 (three years ago) link
one solo i wish went on longer is on "homegrown" (which tbh after this year i've been a little burned out on) is after they do the acapella breakdown of the chorus, his solo after that is great wish it went on
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 4 March 2021 15:32 (three years ago) link
Great - I have to pay €50 (half of what the deluxe Rust Bucket package cost) to customs if I want it delivered. Thanks, Brexit.
― StanM, Thursday, 4 March 2021 15:46 (three years ago) link
I'm trying to figure out if I should order Rust Bucket on vinyl (not super deluxe) or just listen to it on NYA. Anyone have thoughts on the vinyl?
― perhaps I myself was the object of my search (PBKR), Thursday, 4 March 2021 17:37 (three years ago) link
The full (I think?) set is on Sp0t1fy, at least here in the UK, if you can stomach that service. It sounds great but then I'm not a Pono-level audiophile.
― Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Thursday, 4 March 2021 19:26 (three years ago) link
Listening to this now. It's pretty great. If Weld was the doom metal version of this band, this is the caveman-stompin' garage-rock version.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 4 March 2021 19:29 (three years ago) link
I hardly think one needs audiophile level equipment to appreciate the crunch and squall of the Horse.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 March 2021 19:32 (three years ago) link
best listened to on a crappy tape deck
― Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Thursday, 4 March 2021 19:33 (three years ago) link