Of the ones you've heard, which is your least-favourite?
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 00:53 (three years ago) link
Landing on Water, easily. But This Note's for You is still out there, waiting.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 01:04 (three years ago) link
I think Old Ways might be my least favorite
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 01:42 (three years ago) link
"Hippie Dream" on Landing on Water is great
He's done more boring than Landing on Water. Although this fella with an immunity against '80s drums sounds recoils from this one, "Hippie Dream," "Pressure," and especially "Drifter" are second-tier classics.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 01:44 (three years ago) link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown)
yeah this is dreadful: closer to a hipster takedown of country, especially excruciating from someone whose sensibilities and the pieties of his favorite country would seem to align.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 01:45 (three years ago) link
I only know the videos from the two albums just mentioned, and never rushed to hear the whole things. Of the twenty I've heard, Long May You Run is forgettable and Hitchhiker is redundant.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 01:53 (three years ago) link
I like the long Crazy Horse track on Are You Passionate? - IIRC it's from the same sessions that yielded the soon(?)-to-be-released Toast.
With Living with War, I only kept two tracks - the opener "After the Garden" and "Let's Impeach the President" (more as a representative of the album - unapologetically didactic with no subtlety, but I get a kick out of it for being a direct, honest statement unafraid of pissing anyone off.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 01:58 (three years ago) link
Landing on Water was so rock-bottom for me, I haven't gone back to it even once since 1986 (I reviewed it, so I would have listened to it a couple of times at least). There's not an album up to Reactor I don't consider good-to-great (not counting the Stills-Young Band); it all started to go south for me (until Freedom) with Trans.
That's my story, and I'm sticking to it--I haven't heard those mid-'80s albums in forever.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 02:02 (three years ago) link
Living on Water is great.. “violent side”, “hippie dream”, “pressure”, “touch the night”...Pretty striking to hear that “long walk home” solo version kicking of archives ii
― brimstead, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 02:22 (three years ago) link
Lol landing on water
― brimstead, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 02:23 (three years ago) link
Landing With War?
I've heard re.ac.tor two or three times and might like it less than the two I mentioned, but I haven't decided yet. I'd heard that "Shots" was the Big Song on the record, kept my hopes up through the first seven songs, and was really underwhelmed. People who heard it in 1981 might have a different perspective on it as a Bold Statement in that context.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 02:40 (three years ago) link
the 78 Boarding House acoustic version of "Shots" is the definitive but I like the record version toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqQtPWfjPQc
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 02:51 (three years ago) link
the bridge around 4 minutes isn't on the record iirc
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 02:54 (three years ago) link
I probably don't have the deep knowledge of you guys, but of the 17 Neil records I own, "Life" is easily the least memorable, in fact I can't remember a single thing about it other than its slightly odd production sheen. Maybe I should go back to it!
― Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 09:29 (three years ago) link
"Prisoners of Rock 'n' Roll" has become the go-to track, but I dig "Around the World" for its wtf chorus.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 09:31 (three years ago) link
I probably don't have the deep knowledge of you guys, but of the 17 Neil records I own,
*wipes bead of sweat off of forehead, continues reading thread*
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 09:38 (three years ago) link
it's all relative when you're deep in the Neil game!
― Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 09:41 (three years ago) link
it so true :)
i'm up at 4:48 am on the couch, can't sleep. i think it's time for Harvest Moon
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 09:49 (three years ago) link
it's!
I've heard re.ac.tor two or three times and might like it less than the two I mentioned,
"T-Bone" is genius, I wish it was 20 minutes long. "Opera Star" and "Shots" are also great. You know what is terrible though? Side 2 of "Hawks and Doves", what a waste of vinyl.
― Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 09:57 (three years ago) link
Harvest Moon the archetypal bookstore-at-3-p.m. album.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 10:01 (three years ago) link
I feel the same way about Comes a Time, perfectly pleasant but it does wash over you a bit. Still more substance to both than Life though.
― Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 10:11 (three years ago) link
When I was deep in my getting-into-Neil phase, I remember being underwhelmed by Re.ac.tor and never went back after my initial listens. The two songs off that album that are on Rust Bucket are pretty good so I will probably pick up a cheap vinyl copy if I see one.
― righteous oxide (PBKR), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 11:05 (three years ago) link
Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.) at 4:57 17 Mar 21I've heard re.ac.tor two or three times and might like it less than the two I mentioned,"T-Bone" is genius, I wish it was 20 minutes long. "Opera Star" and "Shots" are also great. You know what is terrible though? Side 2 of "Hawks and Doves", what a waste of vinyl.oh you gotta hear the live "t-bone" off of the way down in the rust bucket, so bonkers
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 12:13 (three years ago) link
I would imagine Neil's worst songs would still be decent given the Rust Bucket treatment - that guitar sound is the best.
― righteous oxide (PBKR), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 12:24 (three years ago) link
that's why he don't wanna be good
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 12:32 (three years ago) link
I actually like This Note's For You. And there's a recent (2015) live album from the same era, Bluenote Café, that's even better, and sheds more light on that whole project.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 12:41 (three years ago) link
Yeah Bluenote Cafe in its own way might be the most impressive of the Archives, for putting an era most people, myself included, clowned
I know I won't convince clemenza or alfred that anything but the properly released studio albums are vital but I don't think the Archives are ephemera at all, it's more an alternate history, or a look in to what could have been if Neil had made better decisions...
Also evaluating Crazy Horse on studio albums alone is just invalid
but Bluenote Cafe I finally got ok he was on to something
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 12:56 (three years ago) link
I love "Prisoners of Rock 'n' Roll."
As my premature dismissal of Are You Passionate? indicates, I have a bad habit of avoiding certain albums because of one song. So the title track has kept me clear of This Note's for You to this day--I'm sure I'll like some of it. I didn't mean ephemera as a putdown--just a handy term for non-album stuff. It's as much the cost. After I get those final few studio albums, I may move onto other stuff.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 13:09 (three years ago) link
I love the way over the top version of “Prisoners” on the Year of the Horse live album.
― Chris L, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 13:48 (three years ago) link
year of the horse is fun, overlooked in the crazy horse live catalog
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 14:51 (three years ago) link
The greatest start to any Neil live album — someone in the audience shouts "They all sound the same!" and Neil replies "It's all one song!"
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 14:56 (three years ago) link
haha love that part
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 14:57 (three years ago) link
I'm not a fan of the album, but "This Note's for You" is a keeper. Still hilarious.
Bluenote Cafe is an improvement. The first CD does nothing for me, but the second CD is a LOT better thanks to three epics: the definitive electric version of "Crime in the City (Sixty to Zero)" ("Got thrown out of Bible school for giving the finger to the preacher!"), "Ordinary People" and a great version of "Tonight's the Night."
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 16:12 (three years ago) link
"Doghouse" is on the second disc
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 16:18 (three years ago) link
Neil's greatest songgreat horn arrangements on the Stax style version of "On the Way Home"
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 16:26 (three years ago) link
Yeah, Blue Note Cafe and A Treasure make up for This Note's... and Old Ways---BC does have some beer commercial horn-rock bits that were cliches even at the time, but more of it's fine as wine (maybe not the very best wine, but I wouldn't know about that anyway).
― dow, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 17:10 (three years ago) link
Stereogum has a great interview with Poncho.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 17:11 (three years ago) link
oh yeah I forget about A Treasure - also a far better document of that era than the actual album
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 17:14 (three years ago) link
it all started to go south for me (until Freedom)
there were things i liked about life (same thing everybody else liked, basically) and this note's for you, but the real honest-to-god comeback for me was el dorado, the ep that came out before freedom and shares a few tracks with it. that one was a lightning bolt out of fucking nowhere when it came out.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 17:19 (three years ago) link
Yeah A Treasure is very good, Christgau's A- rating us actually spot-on. It's by far my favorite release covering the '80s before 1989's Freedom/Times Square/Eldorado sessions.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 18:17 (three years ago) link
Well, maybe not "by far," but the only one I like as-is and as a whole.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 18:18 (three years ago) link
but the real honest-to-god comeback for me was _el dorado,_ the ep that came out before _freedom_ and shares a few tracks with it. that one was a lightning bolt out of fucking nowhere when it came out.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 19:07 (three years ago) link
Eldorado cost me $25 at the time. I've always been fascinated by the choice of formats it was available in. CD-only in Japan (makes sense), vinyl-only in Australia (WTF? OK, Neil).
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 19:20 (three years ago) link
Yeah, I was ecstatic to find a used CD copy of Eldorado for like 7 bucks at a Half Price Books back in 2019.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 20:41 (three years ago) link
xgau:Eldorado [Reprise (Japan), 1989]This is certain to become a legend on rarity alone, and if you believe mad guitar is all he's good for, you may even think it's worth a buck a minute at the $25 it cost me. I think it's versions and/or work tapes, with two otherwise unavailable songs and mad guitar that ends too soon. I'm glad to own it. But I get reimbursed. B+ I might have bought if I'd ever seen it (was still kind of a mail order wuss at that point).
― dow, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link
I believe it was announced that he was going to reissue Eldorado at some point
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 20:55 (three years ago) link
(At least still a *living American Rock Star* mail order--er, wimp)
― dow, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link
I think I heard that at one point, maybe it will be packaged with Toast.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link