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Lol landing on water

brimstead, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 02:23 (three years ago) link

Landing With War?

I've heard re.ac.tor two or three times and might like it less than the two I mentioned, but I haven't decided yet. I'd heard that "Shots" was the Big Song on the record, kept my hopes up through the first seven songs, and was really underwhelmed. People who heard it in 1981 might have a different perspective on it as a Bold Statement in that context.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 02:40 (three years ago) link

the 78 Boarding House acoustic version of "Shots" is the definitive but I like the record version too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqQtPWfjPQc

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 02:51 (three years ago) link

the bridge around 4 minutes isn't on the record iirc

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 02:54 (three years ago) link

I probably don't have the deep knowledge of you guys, but of the 17 Neil records I own, "Life" is easily the least memorable, in fact I can't remember a single thing about it other than its slightly odd production sheen. Maybe I should go back to it!

Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 09:29 (three years ago) link

"Prisoners of Rock 'n' Roll" has become the go-to track, but I dig "Around the World" for its wtf chorus.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 09:31 (three years ago) link

I probably don't have the deep knowledge of you guys, but of the 17 Neil records I own,

*wipes bead of sweat off of forehead, continues reading thread*

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 09:38 (three years ago) link

it's all relative when you're deep in the Neil game!

Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 09:41 (three years ago) link

it so true :)

i'm up at 4:48 am on the couch, can't sleep. i think it's time for Harvest Moon

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 09:49 (three years ago) link

it's!

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 09:49 (three years ago) link

I've heard re.ac.tor two or three times and might like it less than the two I mentioned,

"T-Bone" is genius, I wish it was 20 minutes long. "Opera Star" and "Shots" are also great. You know what is terrible though? Side 2 of "Hawks and Doves", what a waste of vinyl.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 09:57 (three years ago) link

Harvest Moon the archetypal bookstore-at-3-p.m. album.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 10:01 (three years ago) link

I feel the same way about Comes a Time, perfectly pleasant but it does wash over you a bit. Still more substance to both than Life though.

Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 10:11 (three years ago) link

When I was deep in my getting-into-Neil phase, I remember being underwhelmed by Re.ac.tor and never went back after my initial listens. The two songs off that album that are on Rust Bucket are pretty good so I will probably pick up a cheap vinyl copy if I see one.

righteous oxide (PBKR), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 11:05 (three years ago) link

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.) at 4:57 17 Mar 21

I've heard re.ac.tor two or three times and might like it less than the two I mentioned,

"T-Bone" is genius, I wish it was 20 minutes long. "Opera Star" and "Shots" are also great. You know what is terrible though? Side 2 of "Hawks and Doves", what a waste of vinyl.


oh you gotta hear the live "t-bone" off of the way down in the rust bucket, so bonkers

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 12:13 (three years ago) link

I would imagine Neil's worst songs would still be decent given the Rust Bucket treatment - that guitar sound is the best.

righteous oxide (PBKR), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 12:24 (three years ago) link

that's why he don't wanna be good

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 12:32 (three years ago) link

Landing on Water, easily. But This Note's for You is still out there, waiting.

I actually like This Note's For You. And there's a recent (2015) live album from the same era, Bluenote Café, that's even better, and sheds more light on that whole project.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 12:41 (three years ago) link

Yeah Bluenote Cafe in its own way might be the most impressive of the Archives, for putting an era most people, myself included, clowned

I know I won't convince clemenza or alfred that anything but the properly released studio albums are vital but I don't think the Archives are ephemera at all, it's more an alternate history, or a look in to what could have been if Neil had made better decisions...

Also evaluating Crazy Horse on studio albums alone is just invalid

but Bluenote Cafe I finally got ok he was on to something

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 12:56 (three years ago) link

I love "Prisoners of Rock 'n' Roll."

As my premature dismissal of Are You Passionate? indicates, I have a bad habit of avoiding certain albums because of one song. So the title track has kept me clear of This Note's for You to this day--I'm sure I'll like some of it. I didn't mean ephemera as a putdown--just a handy term for non-album stuff. It's as much the cost. After I get those final few studio albums, I may move onto other stuff.

clemenza, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 13:09 (three years ago) link

I love the way over the top version of “Prisoners” on the Year of the Horse live album.

Chris L, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 13:48 (three years ago) link

year of the horse is fun, overlooked in the crazy horse live catalog

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 14:51 (three years ago) link

The greatest start to any Neil live album — someone in the audience shouts "They all sound the same!" and Neil replies "It's all one song!"

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 14:56 (three years ago) link

haha love that part

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 14:57 (three years ago) link

I'm not a fan of the album, but "This Note's for You" is a keeper. Still hilarious.

Bluenote Cafe is an improvement. The first CD does nothing for me, but the second CD is a LOT better thanks to three epics: the definitive electric version of "Crime in the City (Sixty to Zero)" ("Got thrown out of Bible school for giving the finger to the preacher!"), "Ordinary People" and a great version of "Tonight's the Night."

birdistheword, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 16:12 (three years ago) link

"Doghouse" is on the second disc

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 16:18 (three years ago) link

Neil's greatest song

great horn arrangements on the Stax style version of "On the Way Home"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 16:26 (three years ago) link

Yeah, Blue Note Cafe and A Treasure make up for This Note's... and Old Ways---BC does have some beer commercial horn-rock bits that were cliches even at the time, but more of it's fine as wine (maybe not the very best wine, but I wouldn't know about that anyway).

dow, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 17:10 (three years ago) link

Stereogum has a great interview with Poncho.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 17:11 (three years ago) link

oh yeah I forget about A Treasure - also a far better document of that era than the actual album

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 17:14 (three years ago) link

it all started to go south for me (until Freedom)

there were things i liked about life (same thing everybody else liked, basically) and this note's for you, but the real honest-to-god comeback for me was el dorado, the ep that came out before freedom and shares a few tracks with it. that one was a lightning bolt out of fucking nowhere when it came out.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 17:19 (three years ago) link

Yeah A Treasure is very good, Christgau's A- rating us actually spot-on. It's by far my favorite release covering the '80s before 1989's Freedom/Times Square/Eldorado sessions.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 18:17 (three years ago) link

Well, maybe not "by far," but the only one I like as-is and as a whole.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 18:18 (three years ago) link

but the real honest-to-god comeback for me was _el dorado,_ the ep that came out before _freedom_ and shares a few tracks with it. that one was a lightning bolt out of fucking nowhere when it came out.


I saw references to it at the time, but it wasn’t easy to find a copy in the US (and really expensive if you did find it). Casual fans may not have even known it existed.

Also, fun fact: at 25:30, the Eldorado “EP” is longer than the Everybody’s Rockin’ “LP.”

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 19:07 (three years ago) link

Eldorado cost me $25 at the time. I've always been fascinated by the choice of formats it was available in. CD-only in Japan (makes sense), vinyl-only in Australia (WTF? OK, Neil).

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 19:20 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I was ecstatic to find a used CD copy of Eldorado for like 7 bucks at a Half Price Books back in 2019.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 20:41 (three years ago) link

xgau:
Eldorado [Reprise (Japan), 1989]
This is certain to become a legend on rarity alone, and if you believe mad guitar is all he's good for, you may even think it's worth a buck a minute at the $25 it cost me. I think it's versions and/or work tapes, with two otherwise unavailable songs and mad guitar that ends too soon. I'm glad to own it. But I get reimbursed. B+
I might have bought if I'd ever seen it (was still kind of a mail order wuss at that point).

dow, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link

I believe it was announced that he was going to reissue Eldorado at some point

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 20:55 (three years ago) link

(At least still a *living American Rock Star* mail order--er, wimp)

dow, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link

I believe it was announced that he was going to reissue Eldorado at some point

I think I heard that at one point, maybe it will be packaged with Toast.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link

I know it's not the right timeframe, more of just a joke about how likely it is we will see it soon.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 20:59 (three years ago) link

"Cocaine Eyes" always makes my Neil Young top tens.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 20:59 (three years ago) link

"Prisoners of Rock 'n' Roll" has become the go-to track, but I dig "Around the World" for its wtf chorus.


Yes! “styyyyle chaaange.... wooooooo”

brimstead, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 21:01 (three years ago) link

“too lonely” on life rocks, iirc

brimstead, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 21:02 (three years ago) link

Yeah Eldorado is supposedly getting packaged with some sessions he cut with his SNL band from his Sep. 1989 appearance.

I bought it for like $20-30, then used it and Freedom to re-create Times Square on CD-R, and then sold Eldorado for a slight profit. (I couldn't afford to keep it as a kid, and I preferred to hear the tracks in that context anyway.)

FWIW, the Times Square recording of "Boxcar" is the only cut from that lost album that hasn't been officially released. (A different, later recording was used on Chrome Dreams II.) Had to use a copy of the bootlegged acetate with some pitch/speed correction.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 21:20 (three years ago) link

it wasn’t easy to find a copy in the US (and really expensive if you did find it)

i lucked out. my best friend's sister was in japan right after eldorado came out and brought me back a copy. music distribution was weird back then. or maybe it was normal then and it's weird now? either way, i miss it sometimes.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 21:30 (three years ago) link

"Cocaine Eyes" always makes my Neil Young top tens.

soooooo good

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 21:31 (three years ago) link

I do remember seeing it in indie shops back in the mid 90s but it was always $30 but I definitely saw it around

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 21:37 (three years ago) link

In the picture from the Stereogum piece, is Poncho ... wearing his own Poncho shirt?

https://static.stereogum.com/uploads/2021/03/GettyImages-452070038-1615994314-scaled.jpg

I kind of want one of those!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 March 2021 21:52 (three years ago) link

that's a boss move right there

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 March 2021 21:57 (three years ago) link


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