I've told ev'ry little sitar
― peace, man, Monday, 26 April 2021 18:00 (three years ago) link
probably meant "discovered the wider discography of Kate Bush"?
― devil sticks in trench coat (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 26 April 2021 18:02 (three years ago) link
Actually "scalloped neck" is more true of the veena, I think - the sitar's frets are raised and curved over the neck, which achieves a comparable effect.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 26 April 2021 18:03 (three years ago) link
Wow, wiki for the win;
Because the tone quality and playing technique differ significantly from that of the sitar, it is typically used in rock, jazz, and fusion styles. Notable early hit singles featuring electric sitar include Eric Burdon and the Animals' "Monterey", Joe South's "Games People Play", Stevie Wonder's "I Was Made to Love Her" (played by Eddie Willis) and "Signed, Sealed, Delivered", B.J. Thomas' "Hooked on a Feeling" (played by Reggie Young), The Spinners' "It's a Shame", The Box Tops "Cry Like a Baby" as well as some sides by The Stylistics and The Delfonics.Other recording artists who have featured the electric sitar include:Elvis Presley " 1969 America Sound recording sessions" "Stranger In My Hometown", "You'll Think Of Me"Steppenwolf ("Snowblind Friend", played by producer Richard Podolor)Mandrake MemorialKronos QuartetGenesis (in "I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)", "Dancing with the Moonlit Knight")Yes (in "Close To The Edge", "Siberian Khatru", "Tales From Topographic Oceans", "To Be Over", "Into The Lens") and their guitarist Steve Howe on his solo albumsMike Oldfield used it on "Flying Start" (on Islands)The Clash (in "Armagideon Time")Todd RundgrenRedbone ("Come and Get Your Love")Bo Donaldson and The Heywoods ("Who Do You Think You Are?")The Grass Roots "Glory Bound"Guns N' Roses (in "Pretty Tied Up")Lenny Kravitz ("It Ain't Over 'til It's Over" and "Again")Robbie Dupree ("Steal Away")OasisDinosaur Jr. (in "The Wagon")R.E.M.Metallica (in "Wherever I May Roam")Steely Dan (in "Do It Again")Paul Young (in "Everytime You Go Away")Tom Petty (in "Don't Come Around Here No More")Dan Fogelberg (in "Nexus")George Duke and Stanley Clarke in ("Sweet Baby")SantanaRoy WoodEric JohnsonMystical SunPearl Jam (in "Who You Are")Screaming Trees in "Halo of Ashes"Redd Kross (in "Play My Song")Alice in Chains (in "What the Hell Have I")Ugly Kid Joe (in "Cats in the Cradle")The All-American Rejects (in ''Night Drive'')Torsten de WinkelFlower Travellin' BandPrinceThe CureManic Street Preachers (in "Tsunami" and "I'm Not Working")Hiroshi TakanoMiyaviSugizohideClarence WhiteRonnie WoodKaoru of Dir en greyPat Metheny (notably on "Last Train Home")SighSteve Vai (notably on "For the Love of God")Rory Gallagher (in "Philby")Mint RoyaleSteve MillerEddie Van Halen (on "Ain't Talkin' 'bout Love" & "Primary")Tony Hicks of The HolliesSchizo Da MaddcapRob Mastrianni (Beatbox Guitar, Next Tribe).Raagnagrok is a contemporary duo using electric sitar and electronic.Khalil Balakrishna, when playing live for Miles Davis.Although George Harrison is generally credited with introducing the sitar into popular music, he is not known to have played a bona fide electric version on any recording.On his award-winning 1969 instrumental rendition of the Joe South tune "Games People Play" saxophonist King Curtis teamed with guitarist Duane Allman on the electric sitar (he also played slide guitar). This can be found on the Duane Allman album An Anthology.The 1971 album Somethin' Else recorded by Danny Davis and the Nashville Brass prominently featured an electric sitar, a first for the country music industry. The instrument provided accompaniment on such songs as "Snowbird", "Rose Garden", "Are You from Dixie?" and others.On ABBA’s 1979 recording of "I Have A Dream" the refrain is played on an electric sitar. However the recording for the 2008 movie version of "Mamma Mia" featured a real bouzouki.[5]The 1992 album Bloody Kisses by Type O Negative used an electric sitar in the song "Can't Lose You" played by Paul Bento from the band Carnivore.Glass Hammer guitarist Kamran Alan Shikoh performed electric sitar in the band's song from 2009 to his departure in 2018.In 2010, MGMT released their album Congratulations, where the electric sitar was played on many tracks by lead singer and guitarist Andrew VanWyngarden.Blues musician Buddy Guy played, among other guitars, a Coral electric sitar in shows on his 2010 tour.The 2014 album Black Messiah by American neo-soul singer D'Angelo and backing band The Vanguard, features use of the electric sitar on tracks such as "Another Life" and "The Charade".The 2015 song "Multi-Love" by Unknown Mortal Orchestra makes use of the electric sitar.
Other recording artists who have featured the electric sitar include:
Elvis Presley " 1969 America Sound recording sessions" "Stranger In My Hometown", "You'll Think Of Me"
Steppenwolf ("Snowblind Friend", played by producer Richard Podolor)Mandrake MemorialKronos QuartetGenesis (in "I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)", "Dancing with the Moonlit Knight")Yes (in "Close To The Edge", "Siberian Khatru", "Tales From Topographic Oceans", "To Be Over", "Into The Lens") and their guitarist Steve Howe on his solo albumsMike Oldfield used it on "Flying Start" (on Islands)The Clash (in "Armagideon Time")Todd RundgrenRedbone ("Come and Get Your Love")Bo Donaldson and The Heywoods ("Who Do You Think You Are?")The Grass Roots "Glory Bound"Guns N' Roses (in "Pretty Tied Up")Lenny Kravitz ("It Ain't Over 'til It's Over" and "Again")Robbie Dupree ("Steal Away")OasisDinosaur Jr. (in "The Wagon")R.E.M.Metallica (in "Wherever I May Roam")Steely Dan (in "Do It Again")Paul Young (in "Everytime You Go Away")Tom Petty (in "Don't Come Around Here No More")Dan Fogelberg (in "Nexus")George Duke and Stanley Clarke in ("Sweet Baby")SantanaRoy WoodEric JohnsonMystical SunPearl Jam (in "Who You Are")Screaming Trees in "Halo of Ashes"Redd Kross (in "Play My Song")Alice in Chains (in "What the Hell Have I")Ugly Kid Joe (in "Cats in the Cradle")The All-American Rejects (in ''Night Drive'')Torsten de WinkelFlower Travellin' BandPrinceThe CureManic Street Preachers (in "Tsunami" and "I'm Not Working")Hiroshi TakanoMiyaviSugizohideClarence WhiteRonnie WoodKaoru of Dir en greyPat Metheny (notably on "Last Train Home")SighSteve Vai (notably on "For the Love of God")Rory Gallagher (in "Philby")Mint RoyaleSteve MillerEddie Van Halen (on "Ain't Talkin' 'bout Love" & "Primary")Tony Hicks of The HolliesSchizo Da MaddcapRob Mastrianni (Beatbox Guitar, Next Tribe).Raagnagrok is a contemporary duo using electric sitar and electronic.Khalil Balakrishna, when playing live for Miles Davis.
Although George Harrison is generally credited with introducing the sitar into popular music, he is not known to have played a bona fide electric version on any recording.
On his award-winning 1969 instrumental rendition of the Joe South tune "Games People Play" saxophonist King Curtis teamed with guitarist Duane Allman on the electric sitar (he also played slide guitar). This can be found on the Duane Allman album An Anthology.
The 1971 album Somethin' Else recorded by Danny Davis and the Nashville Brass prominently featured an electric sitar, a first for the country music industry. The instrument provided accompaniment on such songs as "Snowbird", "Rose Garden", "Are You from Dixie?" and others.
On ABBA’s 1979 recording of "I Have A Dream" the refrain is played on an electric sitar. However the recording for the 2008 movie version of "Mamma Mia" featured a real bouzouki.[5]
The 1992 album Bloody Kisses by Type O Negative used an electric sitar in the song "Can't Lose You" played by Paul Bento from the band Carnivore.
Glass Hammer guitarist Kamran Alan Shikoh performed electric sitar in the band's song from 2009 to his departure in 2018.
In 2010, MGMT released their album Congratulations, where the electric sitar was played on many tracks by lead singer and guitarist Andrew VanWyngarden.
Blues musician Buddy Guy played, among other guitars, a Coral electric sitar in shows on his 2010 tour.
The 2014 album Black Messiah by American neo-soul singer D'Angelo and backing band The Vanguard, features use of the electric sitar on tracks such as "Another Life" and "The Charade".
The 2015 song "Multi-Love" by Unknown Mortal Orchestra makes use of the electric sitar.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 April 2021 18:09 (three years ago) link
it's also possible she just said "sitar" as shorthand instead of saying the full phrase "electric sitar," like how nobody says the full phrase "electric guitar" anymore
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Monday, 26 April 2021 18:10 (three years ago) link
BTW:
So maybe Annie Clark should have done her fuckin' research, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 April 2021 18:11 (three years ago) link
she only said GH made them kinda popular in the 60s
― devil sticks in trench coat (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 26 April 2021 18:20 (three years ago) link
even started it with "I think"
― devil sticks in trench coat (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 26 April 2021 18:21 (three years ago) link
it’s a choral electric sitar guitar
I just realized she probably meant it was a Coral(TM) Electric Sitar.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 26 April 2021 18:21 (three years ago) link
damn I wish you hadn't shown me that now I want one
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 April 2021 18:25 (three years ago) link
me too
― devil sticks in trench coat (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 26 April 2021 18:26 (three years ago) link
Harrison made *sitars* popular in pop music, electric sitars are for poseurs like Annie Clark and the dozens of aforementioned great artists.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 April 2021 18:33 (three years ago) link
If my father spent ten years in jail and I was asked to describe my attitude re: prison abolition, I’d probably dodge the Q too— saying you’re for prison abolition will make you look like you support your white collar criminal father, saying you’re for anything less will make you look like a racist
― zaddy’s home (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 26 April 2021 18:33 (three years ago) link
that electric sitar is rad and I don't care if it is for poseurs.
― akm, Monday, 26 April 2021 19:05 (three years ago) link
(also just learned the author uses they/them, apologizes)
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Monday, 26 April 2021 19:06 (three years ago) link
Absolute shitshow on Twitter
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 26 April 2021 19:17 (three years ago) link
but its giving me an excuse to make fun of tool again
― kurt schwitterz, Monday, 26 April 2021 19:19 (three years ago) link
xps I got to play a remake of the Coral electric sitar once and it’s pretty great IIRC.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Monday, 26 April 2021 19:32 (three years ago) link
I bet that Tool has played electric sitars.My guitar teacher learned to play sitar for something, he says it's really hard. Like, physically, it hurts the hell out of your hands.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 April 2021 19:33 (three years ago) link
Now everyone here wants a Vincent Bell electric sitar? Well well well looks like the sneaky little marketing campaign is going swimmingly.
― Evan, Monday, 26 April 2021 20:02 (three years ago) link
xp guitar hurts the hell out of your hands when you first learn to play
― devil sticks in trench coat (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 26 April 2021 20:07 (three years ago) link
evan you're my favorite poster of all time.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 26 April 2021 20:07 (three years ago) link
xpost Given that he plays guitar extremely well and has for decades, I trust him when he says the sitar is a different sort of discomfort.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 April 2021 20:08 (three years ago) link
i'm sure it is. but playing guitar was a different sort of discomfort as well. new instrument, new muscles. people who play the sitar don't appear to be in pain.
― devil sticks in trench coat (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 26 April 2021 20:10 (three years ago) link
https://s4.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20110923&t=2&i=505834748&w=780&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=2011-09-23T193841Z_01_BTRE78M1IKT00_RTROPTP_0_US-RAVISHANKAR
"Ow, my fingers!"
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 April 2021 20:13 (three years ago) link
looks like he's measuring out a violin to play for your guitar teacher
― devil sticks in trench coat (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 26 April 2021 20:14 (three years ago) link
did you maybe hint that you were considering switching to sitar lessons with Greg at the shop before he said this stuff about the sitar literally murdering everyone who plays it?
― devil sticks in trench coat (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 26 April 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link
"i knew I shouldn't have taught him to play 'Do It Again'. they all threaten to leave for Greg after they learn 'Do It Again'"
― devil sticks in trench coat (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 26 April 2021 20:18 (three years ago) link
That interview is dull. This whole thing is dull. I don’t understand.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 26 April 2021 20:37 (three years ago) link
Absolute shitshow on Twitter― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, April 26, 2021 12:17 PM
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, April 26, 2021 12:17 PM
lol like that isn't just the natural state of twitter
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 26 April 2021 21:25 (three years ago) link
Absolute shitshow is the lowest limit of the Twitter shit scale, a state at which the enthalpy and entropy of a tweet reaches their minimum value, taken as zero shits given.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 April 2021 21:28 (three years ago) link
that is some super solid forensic twitter analysis. your analyses deserve a better subject than twitter, honestly.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 26 April 2021 22:26 (three years ago) link
If actually reflects the Twitter shit paradox, which is that as a twitter thread approaches absolute shitshow, it becomes inversely proportional to the actual number of people that give a shit. Scientists have been trying to wrap their brains around it for years.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 April 2021 22:39 (three years ago) link
https://themuse.jezebel.com/you-dont-have-to-give-interviews-st-vincent-1846764691
The funny thing is, Clark has been unusually hostile to the press before.. After GQ published a profile of Clark in 2019, the writer Molly Young posted a now-deleted addendum to the piece on her own website describing how much Clark seemed to hate the entire process. She reportedly barely looked at Young, gave extremely short answers to her questions, and at one point asked her with “audible hostility” if she “liked doing this.” “Why had she agreed to this story?” Young wrote. “St. Vincent does not need to be in GQ. This is an elective activity.”
Women artists, especially in music, are often penalized for being aloof and cold. Historically, women performers have been expected to entertain audiences, while men get to go off and be sullen geniuses who destroy recording studios and make great art. So I can see Clark delighting in a posture that is unwilling to be forthcoming or cheery. Unfortunately, there is a fine line between being performatively difficult or caustic to make a dramatic point and being, well, an asshole.
― piscesx, Monday, 26 April 2021 22:45 (three years ago) link
In an email to Jezebel, Madden writes: “It was not my wish for it to be taken down. Ultimately, it was a pretty innocuous interview, and the fact it doesn’t exist on the internet tonight goes to show that the law and corporations reinforce one another and the law unfailingly permits corporations to win. I am dismayed that truth, even at its most inane, is beholden to these structures of power, but I am more determined than ever to try and rebalance our industry and to get my silly blogpost back on the web.”
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 26 April 2021 23:51 (three years ago) link
I agree with this point sure but comparing Annie Clark to a corporation is really weird
xp
― zaddy’s home (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 26 April 2021 23:54 (three years ago) link
If that’s what she’s saying then comparing “taking a blog post down” to “the law” is also really weird
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 00:01 (three years ago) link
https://memegenerator.net/img/images/72429049.jpg
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 00:02 (three years ago) link
Is the idea that St. Vincent's people filed a DMCA complaint or something? The article doesn't say anything about the post being taken down other than calling it "now-deleted."
― smoking grass, poor caddying. (morrisp), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 00:05 (three years ago) link
Sounds like she's saying Clark's label (Loma Vista Recordings, part of Concord Music Group, which is distributed by Universal) filed a takedown notice against her blog host, which then yanked her post.
Having worked at a major label that had a whole department devoted to filing takedown notices, this is not in any way shocking to me. Asshole-ish, but entirely in keeping with major label record company practice.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 00:06 (three years ago) link
If DMCAs have now or ever applied to interviews that’s news to me
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 00:08 (three years ago) link
If that’s true then this is a much bigger story!
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 00:09 (three years ago) link
I mean, they shouldn't. Unless the "unnamed publication" somehow claims to own copyright in the interview (and they're the ones who filed the notice).
― smoking grass, poor caddying. (morrisp), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 00:10 (three years ago) link
I would guess she got paid by the original publication that spiked it and they claimed ownership?
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 00:13 (three years ago) link
that's the only possibility. a label can't file a DMCA over something they don't own (an interview)
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 27 April 2021 00:15 (three years ago) link
I guess that would make sense but what corporation-level publication has a legal team that would A) waste time with this and B) combat a piece of bad PR with ... another piece of bad PR!
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 00:16 (three years ago) link
i mean, she prob got notified that the outlet would pursue legal action and took it down voluntarily
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 27 April 2021 00:18 (three years ago) link
Think this album might be her ‘Rudebox’.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 00:39 (three years ago) link
Sensible take
for the past decade, just about every conflict between a journalist and a famous musician has been the same: the celebrity feels that any kind of scrutiny or interpretation is a violation, so they take it out on a relatively powerless, underpaid person who can't hurt them— Judy Berman (@judyberman) April 26, 2021
― piscesx, Tuesday, 27 April 2021 01:00 (three years ago) link
Absolute dogshit take.
St Vincent didn't do a single fucking thing to the writer!
St. Vincent took it out on the *editor*. The writer's beef should be with the *editor* that let St. Vincent steamroll her work and (presumably) cut her rate in half for a kill fee
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 01:05 (three years ago) link