nearly a year later, i'm finally getting to homegrown and yep: it rules.
also flipping through the neil cds at barnes and noble yesterday, holy hell there's been a shitton of live archive releases lately. i knew the frequency of releases had picked up, but not like that. got some catchin' up to do i reckon.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 7 May 2021 20:30 (three years ago) link
yeah the floodgates are finally coming open! there's a lot of shit.
homegrown's more than alright with me
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 7 May 2021 20:32 (three years ago) link
oh shit, i didn't realize that's robbie robertson playing along on "white line"!
makes sense, i suppose
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 7 May 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link
never really got into the ditch stuff before for some dumb reason but I’ve been playing a disc from archives ii every day since I got in a couple of months ago and it’s like why even bother listening to other music
― brimstead, Friday, 7 May 2021 22:42 (three years ago) link
I was you some 8 years ago or so. And clemenza sent me Time Fades Away vinyl in the mail. This was before you could stream it! <3 to clemenza down in the rust bucket.
― If you value Vox, we have an axe (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 8 May 2021 01:26 (three years ago) link
That is a good ilxor.
― keto keto bonito v industry plant-based diet (PBKR), Saturday, 8 May 2021 02:48 (three years ago) link
A quandary
1. I will buy anything the dude puts out.
2. I hate Greendale. It just goes tunelessly on and on forever. 8 minutes declaiming through a bullhorn is about 7:59 too much.
Do I have to get Return to Greendale?
― Hideous Lump, Saturday, 8 May 2021 07:52 (three years ago) link
I quite like the solo acoustic greendale live show (Dublin) but none of the other versions :-(
― StanM, Saturday, 8 May 2021 09:12 (three years ago) link
I think Return to Greendale is an improvement over the album but it's not like it's Live Rust or something, if you dislike the material it's probably not enough
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 8 May 2021 12:54 (three years ago) link
greendale is rotten. first time i saw him aged about 17 i was so hyped, but it was the first run of greendale acoustic solo shows before the LP was even out. he played the whole thing with 5 minute chats between each song about what the lyrics mean (as if every single on that lp isn't extremely obvious). I had exams the next day and had to leave just as he started playing old stuff for the encore, and still missed my train, had to wait 2 hours in waterloo station until the next one. had a little cry.
thankfully he's made up for it every other time i've caught him. but yeah, it sucked.
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Saturday, 8 May 2021 13:05 (three years ago) link
so..... is this new/better audio version of the Rust Bucket DVD thing still happening? I haven't heard back in a while (re: https://neilyoungarchives.com/news/2/article?id=Letters-Rust-Bucket-DVD-Audio-first )
― StanM, Monday, 7 June 2021 15:26 (three years ago) link
Not sure if this was covered somewhere or not, but that batch of Official Bootleg releases is delayed until late this year (due to the vinyl delays):
In other Neil Young release news, The Official Bootleg Series will now be released on October 29 beginning with "Carnegie Hall" disc. On November 5th, five more bootlegs will follow, including the long-awaited album with live recordings with "The Ducks" from the summer of 1977. The releases were previously planned for August and October.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 19:40 (three years ago) link
He should just put out a boxed set called "Delayed."
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:21 (three years ago) link
Obviously there are many "culprits" behind the worldwide vinyl delays, but it annoys me to no end that releases the like this keep getting pushed back because the major labels are throwing their weight behind $45 "exclusive" RSD booger green colored represses of bargain bin commons than can otherwise be found for a couple bucks in every single record store ever.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:27 (three years ago) link
Not in booger green!
― nickn, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:30 (three years ago) link
fair, can't argue with that
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:30 (three years ago) link
Goddammit, I quit vinyl because it was a colossal, overpriced pain in the ass, and still the format finds a way to plague me.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 9 June 2021 20:53 (three years ago) link
Yeah, I don't even care about the vinyl. I'm planning to grab these on CD, but annoyed that everything seems to be delayed. Vinyl is an absolute shitshow right now though and, judging by the conversations I've seen between labels, artists and stores on Twitter in the past couple of weeks, the CD resurgence might be nearer than we think.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 21:14 (three years ago) link
As far as I can tell from my day job there is a crazy shortage of EVERYTHING right now, from pet parakeets right down to, like, super common plastics such as nylon, not to mention the containers that have to sail the stuff to you.
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 21:24 (three years ago) link
Oh yeah, I'm seeing this in the construction industry right now, without a doubt. It's impossible to lock down pricing and schedules for material deliveries. But I'm reading that the vinyl problems were well under way before COVID, they've just gotten infinitely worse and quite a few people in the industry seem to think the current vinyl paradigm focusing on exclusives and 6 different vinyl colors for every album is not sustainable, COVID or no COVID.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 21:31 (three years ago) link
Anyway, sorry to divert from Neil. I'm excited these bootlegs are coming out, no matter how much we have to wait.
Also, he claims to be working on finalizing the tracklist for Archives 3 and sold a fiction novel? Oh, Neil.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 21:33 (three years ago) link
I found Prairie Wind in a clear-out bin last week; got through it twice, not without some effort. "It's a Dream" is pretty good, but I don't think there's a song worth saving. The background harmonies remind me of bad "American Dreamer" CSN, and--Christgau praises this--Neil is very much in moon/June plain-speak rhyming mode. Not a fan--I love oblique, "Cowgirl in the Sand" Neil.
Up to and including Psychedelic Pill, I'm now down to five I don't have:
This Note's for YouGreendaleChrome Dreams IIFork in the RoadLe Noise
I thought I was almost caught up, but I see he's made eight since then! I don't know that I ever will.
― clemenza, Friday, 18 June 2021 21:47 (three years ago) link
le noise is one of my favorites he's done, period. it's kind of an oddball in his catalog (not unlike the dead man soundtrack in some ways) though
― Karl Malone, Friday, 18 June 2021 22:07 (three years ago) link
I should have included Dead Man as something I don't have; I was going by Wikipedia's list of "regular" issues.
I was at Le Nuit Blanche in Toronto the night he debuted Le Noise...I mean, he wasn't there--there were giant speakers, and somebody debuted it.
― clemenza, Friday, 18 June 2021 22:11 (three years ago) link
Chrome Dreams II is worth getting just for "Ordinary People", which is an absolute classic.
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Friday, 18 June 2021 22:16 (three years ago) link
I second Karl’s enthusiasm for Le Noise. It’s easily my favorite of Neil’s since Ragged Glory. And I say that as someone who is not a Daniel Lanois fan.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 June 2021 22:40 (three years ago) link
clemenza if you ever get to the bootleg stuff, Bluenote Cafe does a tremendous job of rehabilitating the This Note's For You era
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 June 2021 22:53 (three years ago) link
Thanks for the tip, sounds like something worth pursuing. (I've also discovered that, after writing about Are You Passionate a few months ago like I was hearing it for the first time, I had accidentally bought it a second time.)
― clemenza, Friday, 18 June 2021 23:46 (three years ago) link
Got the rust bucket 4lp for $42 on fuckbezoszon. Genuinely surprised at the great packaging.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 18 June 2021 23:50 (three years ago) link
xpost there's a 25 minute bulldozing of Tonight's the Night that is like James Blood Ulmer and the Saturday Night Live band
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 19 June 2021 00:28 (three years ago) link
Le Noise is his best record of the last 30 years imo, even with the obligatory clunkers
― sleeve, Saturday, 19 June 2021 02:37 (three years ago) link
i am not SUPER-knowledgeable of his stuff from 90s to now, but it is also my favorite of that period.
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 19 June 2021 02:38 (three years ago) link
The burnt out “Hitchhiker” take on Le Noise is great. The fact that song morphed into a track on Trans is nuts but on-track wrt Neil.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 19 June 2021 04:35 (three years ago) link
Le Noise is his best record of the last 30 years imo, even with the obligatory clunkers― sleeve, Friday, June 18, 2021 7:37 PM
― sleeve, Friday, June 18, 2021 7:37 PM
i was gonna be like, "HEY STOP RAGGED GLORY IS AWESOME" but then i remembered what year it is and. . . fuck, i'm old.
and yeah, le noise is solid. dream pop neil?
― things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Saturday, 19 June 2021 16:41 (three years ago) link
are those 2 the neil young for people who don’t like neil young? are there others in that vein?
― Left, Saturday, 19 June 2021 16:45 (three years ago) link
nah, ragged glory is just classic neil + crazy horse noisey melodic buzz guitar jams. solid, but definitive *very* representative of "classic neil©"
le noise is produced by lanois and sounds like it, so yeah maybe. kind of folk troubadour neil goes space cadet ambient. like km said, it's an oddball in neil's catalogue for sure.
― things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Saturday, 19 June 2021 16:49 (three years ago) link
The biggest outlier in his catalogue might be... Landing on Water?
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 19 June 2021 16:52 (three years ago) link
that album's sound hurts my ears
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 June 2021 17:00 (three years ago) link
yeah, but that's. . . uhh, not a good album.
(now i've summoned the landing on water defenders, i just know it. oh dear.)
― things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Saturday, 19 June 2021 17:01 (three years ago) link
Just listened to it last weekend <3
― brimstead, Saturday, 19 June 2021 17:04 (three years ago) link
Although I don’t see what RG and LN have in common so maybe I’m misunderstanding the q
― brimstead, Saturday, 19 June 2021 17:05 (three years ago) link
Landing on Water has some great songsOld Ways is my personal least favorite
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 19 June 2021 17:05 (three years ago) link
i don't think le noise would really convince anyone who wasn't already a fan but it's an interesting one, just neil & some nice spacy/noisy electric guitar.
― ufo, Saturday, 19 June 2021 17:06 (three years ago) link
I love his guitar playing, i like a lot of his tunes, sometimes like & sometimes hate his vocals (though they’re always interestingly unmacho & unrockstarlike even when they’re way offkey & the words are cliched/chauvinistic). his lyrics vary wildly between great and terrible from song to song or line to line & the politics are a fucking mess even by his generation’s standards
I heard landing on water the other day & thought it was mostly not very good so maybe i do prefer neil young being neil young. I’ve heard most of the famous albums at least once & found things to like on all of them but none of them are very consistent are they? closest is maybe after the gold rush… ?
― Left, Saturday, 19 June 2021 17:06 (three years ago) link
ragged glory was one of the first i liked on first listen, i heard & enjoyed le noise for the first time last week. what they have in common: guitar noise, simple accessible tunes, the whine, the messy but intriguing lyrics
― Left, Saturday, 19 June 2021 17:11 (three years ago) link
he seems like the kind of artist where the fuckups/messiness are part of the appeal if you’re a real fan. which i may become one day
― Left, Saturday, 19 June 2021 17:16 (three years ago) link
Coming from the guy who’s honeyslider recipe sounds horrifying- I’d say you’d be 100% right that messiness is part of the appeal!
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 19 June 2021 17:20 (three years ago) link
xp yeah I think every Neil album has at least one song I routinely skip over, except for On the Beach, which is ace all the way through
― J. Sam, Saturday, 19 June 2021 17:40 (three years ago) link
I wouldn't skip over anything on Time Fades Away either. Tonight's the Night has the missable "Roll Another Number".
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 19 June 2021 18:08 (three years ago) link