Led Zeppelin: Classic Or Dud?

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Mark's right when he says that Zep are rhythmically superior to Sabbath; unfortunately Sabbath are superior in every other field imaginable.

Fred's right when he says Robert Plant's voice sounds like an escape (specifically, from the stuffiness and politeness of Britain when Plant was growing up) but, you know, you could say the same thing about fucking Merseybeat, for fuck's sake. While at the time they were hailed as an astonishing sonic progression from *that* lot over six years, Zep remind me of what Tom and I once said about the Beatles' hangers-on; you can't deny that they sounded like an escape and a new dawn for certain people listening to them, but that doesn't alter the fact that the music is terrible.

Yeah, Tom's nailed them good and proper.

― Robin Carmody, Thursday, 28 September 2000 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

I refuse to say negative things about a band that has contributed wonderful things like "The Battle Of Evermore", "Black Dog", "Kashmir", "Good Times Bad Times", "The Lemon Song", "D'Yer Maker", and the blueprint for disco-rock "The Immigrant Song". I DEFY you to tell me you couldn't imagine people dancing their asses off to that one.

Why listen to Led Zep when you have Black Sabbath? Because only listening to one band is boring unless it's The Cure or Prince.

― Dan Perry, Thursday, 28 September 2000 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

well, the voice of pitchfork has chipped in...and he has side with ME! case closed.

but seriously (ha ha ha)! tom is oblivious to many of the things that make zep great, unless he's fooled me all of this time and is really into virtuosity and locking rhythm sections. ;) mark, as you say the music isn't really made for or by intellectuals. the concept of "suspension of disbelief" comes to mind, checking your brain at the door, etc., and if you're not up for that then, let me say it again, maybe zep isn't the band for you.

and what's all this talk of sabbath? are the same people who are criticizing robert plant's voice listening to a band fronted by ozzy? certainly, sabbath has created some incredibly sludgy and heavy riffs (and are probably currently a bigger influence than zep) but, as mark says, the rhythm section is weak and, God, i just can't *stand* ozzy. more power to you if you can!

― fred solinger, Thursday, 28 September 2000 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

All this obsession with 'checking your brain at the door' etc. is just silly - brains don't work like that: when you listen to Zep, Fred, your lack of analysis is an analytical choice itself. And if you *really* didn't think about them you'd not have spent so many paragraphs going on about them. I've said it before and I'll say it again: it's a cop-out.

And Pitchfork can kiss my arse ;).

― Tom, Friday, 29 September 2000 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

and i'm here to say that your constant tossing about of the term, "cop-out" is in itself a cop-out, you big bitch.

i write paragraphs about them because i force myself to think about them: normally, zep isn't one of those bands one rattles on about. if i were listening to the music and *thinking* it'd be a conscious effort.

and pitchfork is *still* the internet king of music reviews, if you ask me. maybe -- and this is only a *maybe* -- you'd be in their league if you wrote a review, oh, more than once a month (or when the latest merritt album comes out).

― fred solinger, Friday, 29 September 2000 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Surely the appreciation of instrumental virtuosity requires the very distancing that Fred says is anathema to the Zep listener? You can't have it both ways, surely? Mind you, I quite like them so I should probably keep my trap shut.

― David, Friday, 29 September 2000 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

One last post and then I really will shut up!

The ironic thing, I've just realised, is that my reaction to Led Zep *is* pretty much 'instinctual' - as I said to Fred in chat a few days ago, the difference is that I'm basically more of a punk than him. So I like Motorhead, he likes Zep, and both of us look around for rationalisations as to why the other one is less rockin'. Having grown up on the British music press and their horror of anything approaching prog or dinosaur rock, my gut instinct is to mistrust the virtuosity and bombast of the Zep: so my negative judgement is based on that 'unthinking' reaction.

Of course, I *could* think myself into liking some of their stuff, but as Fred says, that's hardly the point...

― Tom, Friday, 29 September 2000 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

OK, off the top of my head:

Busta Rhymes - 'This Means War' samples 'Iron Man'

Cypress Hill - 'I Ain't Goin' Out Like That' samples 'The Wizard'

And I'm sure that 'Behind the Wall of Sleep' has been used on a record too, Okay it's not quite 'When the Levee Breaks' but it's still got a fucking good, if loose, groove

― Chewshabadoo, Friday, 29 September 2000 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

I can never hear the lyrics very well unless it's Bob Dylan. So, thankfully, lyrics rarely interfere with my rock and roll enjoyment. For Zep it's the riffs man, it's the riffs. For Sabbeth, it's the riffs man, it's the riffs. For Rage Against the Machine, it's the riffs. For the Stones, the riffs. The riffs are probably why bombastic, butt-simple rock and roll works at all. When you put virtuosity and rock and roll together, I worry. Rock and roll is the professional wresting of music and I love it.

Who has more original, harder, stranger, colder, more bombastic riffs than Zep?

That said: Stairway to Heaven may be Zep's pop masterpiece, but pop isn't what I want out of a hard band. I've seen them twice but after the first album, they could only play arrangements of their multitracked recordings. If Zeps extraordinary arrangements bear any responsibility for the over-produced so-called power ballads that came after, I curse them. Finally, Jimmy played the coldest blues based solos ever - his solos bother me every time I hear them but, maybe that's a good thing.

― TK, Friday, 29 September 2000 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

the term "virtuosity" is being tossed around a lot. is johnny marr virtuosic? kevin shields? does tom (or whoever) appreciate them for their virtuosity. i suspect the answer is yes.

as for zeppelin, to paraphrase cole gagne on branca, it does not matter what anyone thinks about them any more than it matters what anyone thinks of the sun. they were my ecstasy and education from ages 10-14 or so. i can't stand them most of the time now, after punk happened long ago for me but there are always precious moments when i can listen and get into it again. the reasons for loving them and hating them are both equally obvious and *don't matter*. zeppelin simply are.

curiously neglected so far:

i) the obvious vulnerable and androgynous qualities of robert plant's voice and persona. *this* is one item that separates them from standard macho beer-drinking rock and makes them valuable to misfit teen boys (god knows none of the *jocks* were listening to them in my gr 8 class).

ii) the tolkien's not there to make the fans feel smug and intellectual. fuck, when do most people read tolkien? gr 6? gr 7? it's there because, along with the music, zeppelin really aimed to create a fantasy-world and to achieve an otherworldly experience. item number two.

listening to just the cure all the time though. gah.

― sundar subramanian, Friday, 29 September 2000 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

also interesting that zeppelin is being described as totally non-intellectual, primal, etc. such claims are never made of, say, fugazi. are they really more sophisticated?

― sundar subramanian, Saturday, 30 September 2000 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Also, no one's yet mentioned the heavy debt Zep had to the English folk tradition. Maybe that's not as obvious on their albums, but the only thing of theirs I own is Boxed Set II and they really play it up in the liner notes.

― Josh, Sunday, 1 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

or their explorations of indian classical music for that matter.

― sundar subramanian, Monday, 2 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

Zeppelin's definitely a classic. No question about it.

The best Zep, though, were "Physical Graffiti" and "Presence." The first LP of the former is the best funk record ever recorded (better even that Parliament/Funkadelic). The second is just great.

― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Thursday, 5 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

First of all, a considerable portion of Led Zeppelin is quite classic; they are one of the very few bands that could make absofuckinglutely ANYTHING rock: calypso, english pussy folk, black magic, disco, cavestomp, whatever. They were like a karaoke studio band gone bananas (Robert Plant adding a pure ridiculousness factor that puts them over the top, Stairway and all.) But I CANNOT BELIEVE the grief that the greatest rhythm section rock has ever known, the band that invented the rhythmic language of heavy metal as it were, are getting here. Bill Ward, Geezer Butler, and Tony Iommi did EVERYTHING as rhythm; just because Ward didn't mike his bass drum at the end of a canyon doesn't make their rhythms weak. Listen to the syncopated crashing on a song like Supernaught and spot the rhythmic equivalent anywhere other than maybe early seventies electric jazz or Sun Ra. No-one in rock has even come close. No, it isn't usually funky, but that's hardly the point. While Zeppelin were busy goofing around with trying to convert as many forms of music as possible into rock and roll, Sabbath invented and perfected a new form of expression.

Kris.

― Kris P. Ozzfest Rainout, Thursday, 5 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-five years ago)

one month passes...

Zep rules.... i didn't read everyone answer cuz im too stoned.....but zep kicks ass and everyone that said that zeppelin's music sucks, is way too stubborn to let the music take over.......by not liking zep you have just not succum to transendece or Plants voice............you think its cool not to like what everyone else thinks...(you all know who u are).....u think that by liking a less popular band it makes you more unique.....but in actuality your just a bunch suckers that think it cool to listen to a shitty band.....

― f.ccccc, Wednesday, 29 November 2000 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one month passes...

How timely, just the other day i was in the mood for some 70s style RAWK! But scanning my Led Zep box I saw too much songs that gave me the creeps. Exceptions for me still are "Kashmir", "In my time of dying" and in spite of Plant's voice, "No Quarter"...that wah-wah riff instantly turns me into a air-guitar playing dork, going "Whagawahgawha, whagawahgawah" (etc.)

― Omar Munoz, Wednesday, 3 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three weeks pass...

Led zeppelin fucked a girl with a shark. they also made some totally huge sounding music. also, they made some pretty bad music. seeing as they fucked that girl with the shark,though, they rule.

― swastikas forever, Thursday, 25 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three weeks pass...

Led Zeppelin is a good band, not god-like, but they had many good qualities. I only own two of their albums. I only own one of their CDs. I only own that album for one song: "When The Levee Breaks." My gosh that's a good song. Cathartic, escapist, whatever the hell you wanna call it. I do have one complaint: Why did Plant have to do his primal scream/grizzled bluesman shouting thing during the _first_ slide guitar break? That led to the second one being kind of anticlimactic. Ah well, beggars can't be choosers.

― Jack Redelfs, Wednesday, 21 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one month passes...

Personally I believe that Led Zeppelin is on of the most overrated rock band of all time. Yes, they are one of the most requested rock bands in history, but that doesn't make them good. Black Sabbath was a much more influential than Zeppelin ever was. Sabbath inspired the entire Heavy Metal genre, while zeppelin can maybe be credited with 80's hair bands.

― Jeff J., Monday, 26 March 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Led Zeppelin is the WORST band.They SUCK so bad that they make puff daddy sound good......it's true.All the dumbasses that listen to this shit should get some help.......All Led Zeppelin is,is a bunch of faggots that can't play for shit.........it's true.Thank goodness they are RETIRED.So we don't have to put up with the badness that they display......it's true.They are probabley enjoying their retirement collecting $207.42 a month for the rest of their lives.......that's not bad money for them considering their making more money now then when they played to empty night clubs.......it's true.

― ray charles, Tuesday, 27 March 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two months pass...

Maybe you don't like LZ, but they were NOT bad musicians. Bonzo is the BEST ROCK DRUMMER, and if you don't agree, who's better? Travis Barker? And when you consider his praise from other musicians, I'd say that Jimmy Page is not a bad guitarist.

― LZ, Saturday, 23 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

All you people have no taste or anything musical in you if you say that Zeppelin sucks. Like they are actual artists unlike those fucking skid groups or rap fuckers these days.How can you compare zeppelin to Dr. Dre. Jimmy Pagfe is perhaps the greatest guitarist of all time and in my mind he is the king of rock n roll. Led Zeppelin is the geatest band of all time and I shit on you pricks who don't know what they are talking about.

Fuck you all

― Milton Robertson, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ray Charles fucks fred nice and Hard up the ass. ZEPPELIN RULES MAN. NOW I'M GONNA GO SMOKE A JOINT FOR ZEP THE I'M GONNA TAKE A SHIT TO REPRESENT RAY'S AND FRED'S INTELLIGENCE

― Fred's gay, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Er, obviously bob cannae read. But he did make me laugh.

― Nicole, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I can not believe that there is even a discussion on whether or not led zeppelin was good. Unlike other bands, they constantly progressed and changed. They started out as a blues band, with some hard rock, like dazed and confused off of their first album. As result of their progression and experimentation, they became one of the first hard rock bands of all time.

Later bands would imitate the screamin and screaching guitars; however, the rythm sectio could not be duplicated. Furthermore, the sound of led zeppelin was a result of a combination of many influencs,including indian classical and celtic. Later bands' sound was a result of musical interests within the band that were limited in genre.

All of the musicians in the band are of the highest quality. JImmy Page ranks as one of the best guitarists ever, and the rythm section of John Paul Jones an John Bonham is unrivaled. The songwritig duo of Page and Plant was also one of the best ever.

Contrary to the beliefs of some people who have posted, Led zeppelin set records for sales of tickets and albums. Their live performances shattered tickt sales records, due to elongated versions of songs such as moby dick, which is also an example of Bonham's amazing talent. They are also right behind the beatles in total record sales. HOwever, the beatles had 21 albums, where zep only had 10.

Now could somebody clarify how zeppelin isn't good, because i just don't see it.

― jim, Saturday, 30 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

1. Ever experimental without losing the brand value. Is that claasic? 2. Some times fake - Kashmir does not have a yellow desert. Classic? 3. Inspiration galore: Golum, the evil one. 4. Pioneering: Whole lotta love. Absolute classic. 5. Aura. natural.

― Rajesh Naik, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

All of the musicians in the band are of the highest quality.

Guaranteed to never shrink or fade. But they might get very wrinkly and boring.

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Robert Plant sounds like a cat being kicked in the balls. THAT is enough for them to be described as dud. Yeah, they may have continually progressed or whatever, but Percy himself never progressed beyound sounding like an feline in extreme pain.

― Richard Tunnicliffe, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two weeks pass...

The only reson ou have not to like Led Zeppelin and even Tolkien is because you're in a different state of mind. It's about escaping reality a creating one of your very own. So don't give me that crap about it being shit. This is the basis of all forms of art.

― muppet monkey, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"They are also right behind the beatles in total record sales. However, the beatles had 21 albums, where Zep only had 10": this the clicher for me. 21 = kewl number (3 x 7); 10 = evil number (2 x 5). D'you SEE?

I like Plant's voice.

― mark s, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Their most powerful moments were often the quieter ones..."That's the Way" off of III, "The Rain Song" from Houses, "Down By the Seaside" from Physical Graffiti.

But the stuff I think I most enjoy from them are when they were just plain goofy and/or eccentric. I'm thinking "Boogie with Stu", "Hats Off (to Roy Harper)", "The Crunge", "Hot Dog", etc

Can't think of too many weak moments from Zep, actually...

― Joe, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's kind of hard to get into an argument about Led Zeppelin when the ground rules seem to be that they weren't pretty accomplished usicians who managed to extend the vocabulary of popular music in ways that few bands ever do.

I can understand those who don't like them becasue of the Prog/Dinosaur overtones, but simply noting that they were in that field would negate the accusations of them bieng anti-intellectual and lacking skill.

Sure, some of their songs are *fairly* simple, but on the whole, they almost always managed to do something unexpected or quirky within the context of Loud Blues.

They're one of the few Rawk bands I can stand, because there's always something ungraspable about how they came to what they ended up doing. To me, if you can figure out how a band got to their end product (and could replicate it yourself), why bother listening to it?

― CountV/John T, Friday, 27 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one month passes...

Some of these "Black Sabbath" fans crack me up with there total lack of knowledge about rock history. Led Zeppelin did not influence that horrible hair metal of the 80's musically. All those lame bands did was try to "look" like them. There music was silly pop dreck with loud guitars.

Zeppelin's music, if you listen to it, was exstremly inventive and layered. Led Zeppelins actually musical influence can actually be felt most from everyone from Prince to REM to Jane's Addiction to Smashing Pumpkins. Not lame hair metal, lol. On the other hand all Black Sabbath ever influenced was moronic crap like death metal, or black metal and a bunch of low IQed, beer swilling "metal heads" with a mentality to "break stuff" and worship the devil. Please.

Also the comments about Led Zeppelin not being intellectual are ignorant in my opinion. Is Mozart not intellectual? He certainly did not have many lyrics about war or polotics did he? What was intellectual about Zeppelin was there musical ability. The world was filled with tons of good and lame bands that where "politcally consious", i think they where and still are a breath of fresh air. I like some Punk rock, but if you are that non-ecclectic as to be turned off to great musicans because of some silly ideal or scene (like punk) then your a idiot.

― Robert, Friday, 21 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well it's more than likely that Led Zep isn't the greatest rock band of all time. The majority of their lyrics seems to have come straight from their waists and some of their more popular riffs are remarkably simple. Plant is probably overrated and had he not died so prematurely, Bonzo might never have been as celebrated as he is now. Still, does that mean that Immigrant Song is not worth listening to, or that Over The Hills and Far Away is useless tripe from a pretentious 70s band? Maybe... but no one can argue that they were more influential than Sabbath ever could have been. Firstly, I contend that it is Led Zep and not Sab that should be pointed out as the originators of heavy metal if you had but one finger to point with. But even if you don't agree, let us remember that it was Black Sabbath's unbearbable stagnation that was in the most part responsible for the New Wave of British Heavy Metal movement in the 1980s. (The fact is that most tributes to Black Sabbath - how many are there, seven? - feature generic death metal bands with cookie monster vocalists.)

So, did Sabbath influence Iron Maiden or Judas Priest? Probably, but not in the way they might have liked. There may be a reason Maiden - a band that does few covers - did one of Whole Lotta Love, but never a single Sabbath tune.

― Jack Torrance, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

― J Corabi, Friday, 12 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

seven months pass...

Just the fact that so many people still feel strongly about Zep, 20 years after their demise, says something. Unlike 99% of the crap that is made today and forgotten 6 mopnths later. Long live "classic" rock.

Ron

― Ron Murray, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Led zeppelin fucked a girl with a shark.

So they influenced R. Kelly, too!

― Dan Perry, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

R. Kelly isn't in their league.

― dleone, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

it was the vanilla fudge at the edgewater inn in washington state that fcked a girl with the shark.

― chaki, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, Zep were the red snapper, not the shark

― Ben Williams, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

the vanilla fudge invented everything!!

― mark s, Saturday, 8 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...

I quite like Zep. And I don't think Sabbath come close really because they are so one-dimensional (to my fascistic ears, at least). Whereas, Zep were multi-faceted and instead of writing a few good somngs, wrote a string of shit-hot albums.

Anyband with Bonham at the back was on to a winner (unless it was Bonham's own band) and Page and Plant ain't so bad either. Actually, I recall Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull fame telling Melody Maker back in the day that with his lyrics and Zep's music they "could have made quite a good little rock and roll band." Ha ha ha ha ha.. sorry, I laugh my ass off everytime I hear that.

Gimme Physical Graffiti everytime. I think it's actually too good, if that's possible, which it isn't, but it feels like it is when I listen to that album. Does anyone else know what I (don't) mean?

― Roger Fascist, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I've been spinning 'The Song Remains the Same' a bit recently, and it all sounds grate - funk metal, speed metal, prog metal, the 20min version of 'Dazed and Confused', even Bonham's drum solo in 'Moby Dick' (I mean, it's not really that gd or anything - every time he gets into a decent rhythm he gives up on it and tries something else - now that's pointless 'virtuosity' - but there are some v. nice tuning/detuning sounds near the end...)

― Andrew L, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

three months pass...

I disagree... Zeppelin rocks ... so does Sabbath... You cant put down Zeppelin like that. Think of all the classics. Sure Sabbath's Paranoid is the best, but so is Zeppelin's Kashmir- ... (there is completely no comparison) ... it is like comparing Guns and Roses to Metallica-you cannot do it. If you were to compare anyone it should be those shitty boy bands and not the legends. You really cannot compare Zeppelin with Sabbeth so please do not think to hard...

― Meagan, Wednesday, 27 November 2002 07:05 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

"How many hip-hop groups have sampled Bill Ward's drum parts? ",
said Mark Richardson.

Actually quite many. Check out Sabbath's "Behind the wall of sleep".

― Esko, Wednesday, 8 January 2003 16:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Cypress Hill sampled "The Wizard"

― dave q, Wednesday, 8 January 2003 19:40 (twenty-two years ago)

seven months pass...

Classic, but christ they're overplayed on the radio at times.

― Bryan Moore (Bryan Moore), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

three months pass...

Zeppelin and Sabbath rock and I believe both were influentual in the development of the New Wave of British Heavy Metal. My faves are 'Graffiti' by Zep and I love 'Born Again' by Sabbath...must have been too many brews in the early 80's for REB I guess.

But for the person who said 'Zeppelin=Overrated' and then trotted out Creedence FFS! Sheesh!! And to hear Plant getting sledged for his vocals and then having some numbnuts raving on about the monumentally mediocre Cure PURLEASE..

The best point in this entire thread is that Zeppelin's music has stood the test of time and that what passes for rock these days will be forgotten this time next year.

Cheers,

REB

― Rik E Boy (Rik E Boy), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)

The People's Poet?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)

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― whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Wednesday, 6 August 2025 21:15 (two months ago)

xp right, i get that. they were calling what i wrote "shitty". slight difference. a much bigger difference, though, to say, "dude i don't like that joke. i think making fun of how other nationalities speak is crude and doesn't belong here." but instead of blanket-judging-as-objective-fact with over-the-top name-calling language, that would mean expressing your feelings as something local to yourself, which would mean opening yourself up to some vulnerability. not a thing people tend to do here, or anywhere afaict.

― five six seven, eight nine ten, begin (map), Wednesday, 6 August 2025 21:23 (two months ago)

map, the proper response to all of this would be to say, "you're right, I see how that was a racist joke that is offensive" and

You've now typed out the same "joke" for a third time for some reason and seem like you are getting defensive. Maybe you are having a bad day, but this whole thing is just more of the stuff we get in the real world and no one needs it.

― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 6 August 2025 21:32 (two months ago)

honestly map, part of it was shock on my part that in 2025 someone would need that explained to them that it's a racist thing to post. and I most definitely did not call you a shitty person, nor did I call you any names at all. in fact I went so far as to say I try not to judge a person on just one thing they do. yours was a shitty post and a shitty joke, I stand by that. maybe I could have worded it in a way that made it easier to digest, but genuinely I was just surprised to see that posted so casually.

― better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 August 2025 21:43 (two months ago)

not responding any more to this and i stand by what i said. i did my best.

― five six seven, eight nine ten, begin (map), Wednesday, 6 August 2025 22:04 (two months ago)

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― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 6 August 2025 22:56 (two months ago)

yeah i clicked it and it added a bookmark to this thread - weird.

guys after taking a moment, i need to say: that post was shitty and racist, you're right, and i'm sorry.

― five six seven, eight nine ten, begin (map), Wednesday, 6 August 2025 23:02 (two months ago)

reactions totally understandable. and jon, i owe you an apology too.

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― Lithium Just Madison (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 6 August 2025 23:15 (two months ago)

Over the Hills and 56k

― calstars, Wednesday, 6 August 2025 23:16 (two months ago)

Sorry! That youtube post was credited to Rock n Roll Hall of Fame, so thought it would be okay, but Google AI and Firefox complicated it---this seems clean, just tested it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyS_qgA-1Mg

― dow, Thursday, 7 August 2025 00:20 (two months ago)

Lol, that is highly entertaining. I've never seen Plant play guitar! Did Neil not have the heart to tell them he didn't write For What It's Worth?

― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 7 August 2025 01:32 (two months ago)

"Damn son! Where'd ya find this?!"

― BrianB, Thursday, 7 August 2025 01:54 (two months ago)

...is hilarious meta marketing for Rock jams. I would've rather heard Neil sing than Robert play tho

― BrianB, Thursday, 7 August 2025 01:56 (two months ago)

Speaking of Knebworth, they also tore up “Achilles Last Stand” while Jimmy lost his body weight in sweat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXScsqcdMOA

― dinnerboat, Thursday, 7 August 2025 03:31 (two months ago)

Some good guitar face at about 4:30 there.

― Kim Kimberly, Thursday, 7 August 2025 03:39 (two months ago)

lmao that Levee Breaks sounds like a parody shreds video

― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 August 2025 10:57 (two months ago)

Speaking of Knebworth, they also tore up “Achilles Last Stand” while Jimmy lost his body weight in sweat. 📹

Skeletor plays greatest hits

― calstars, Thursday, 7 August 2025 14:22 (two months ago)

xpost Oh I dig what Young, Page, Jones, and Bonham are doing---also Plant's goofiness---and even if the whole thing seems like parody, it's still entertaining, maybe more entertaining (accidental comedy can seem like the best kind).

― dow, Thursday, 7 August 2025 17:20 (two months ago)

So cringe

― calstars, Thursday, 7 August 2025 17:37 (two months ago)

Their performance of "Sick Again" from that night is p good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y711e3dFnb8

― bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Thursday, 7 August 2025 18:41 (two months ago)

Why is page drenched with sweat? Nobody else is sweatin', and I see steam coming out of Plant's mouth at points, indicating the air was cold.

― beard papa, Saturday, 9 August 2025 05:37 (two months ago)

because satan

― mookieproof, Saturday, 9 August 2025 05:40 (two months ago)

Because

@ruggie.74
1 month ago
"Jimmy, how are you going to play a recording that has 10+ guitar tracks live?"
"Yes."

― Kim Kimberly, Saturday, 9 August 2025 06:11 (two months ago)

like i said

― mookieproof, Saturday, 9 August 2025 06:12 (two months ago)

Actually it kinda looks more like he's poured water over himself rather than sweat.

― Kim Kimberly, Saturday, 9 August 2025 06:13 (two months ago)

Because sick again

― Hideous Lump, Saturday, 9 August 2025 06:42 (two months ago)

Heroin.

― Corny Capitalism (Tom D.), Saturday, 9 August 2025 10:56 (two months ago)

one month passes...

it haunts me what i said on this thread and i am really, truly sorry.

― she freaks, she speaks (map), Saturday, 13 September 2025 01:37 (one month ago)

the real japanese jimmy page is youtube legend jun626 who devoted fans download and repost his content because he's been taken down so many times:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwIY46vuENQ

― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 13 September 2025 01:43 (one month ago)

note for note copies, replicating even the bum notes and misses.

― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 13 September 2025 01:45 (one month ago)

tho that might be the ultimate compliment that your playing is so spot on that the copyright algos strike you.

― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 13 September 2025 01:52 (one month ago)

https://i.imgur.com/S4FINbr.jpeg

― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 21 September 2025 18:28 (one month ago)

Diyarbakır is the largest Kurdish-majority city in Turkey.[3]

― Kim Kimberly, Sunday, 21 September 2025 18:40 (one month ago)

And the largest restaurant on Green Lanes in London!

― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 21 September 2025 18:46 (one month ago)

i haven't even leavened here yet!

― budo jeru, Sunday, 21 September 2025 21:12 (one month ago)

*her

fuck nothing like a typo to ruin your joke

― budo jeru, Sunday, 21 September 2025 21:13 (one month ago)

it haunts me what i said on this thread and i am really, truly sorry.
― she freaks, she speaks (map)

Went back to see what this was all about, and this caught my eye: "i've posted here for a long, long time. you'd think i would have earned some trust and some benefit of the doubt by now. but there really are people who are just waiting for you to say something that they get to call you 'shitty' about."

Find it interesting that, having gone through this, you were quite happy to jump all over me for posting this about Alanis Morrissette a short while back: "I wrote two pieces back then, one for publication and one for my homepage, pointing out the various things I found silly about Alanis Morrissette. With humour and not maliciously, I think, but who knows--I think either one of them would get me run out of town today." Seems to me relatively mild compared to what caused the fuss here, and, ditto, like this had anything at all to do with the many, many female artists I love.

― clemenza, Monday, 22 September 2025 03:14 (one month ago)

FP, no notes

― sleeve, Monday, 22 September 2025 03:53 (one month ago)

never a dull moment here on the led zeppelin thread

― budo jeru, Monday, 22 September 2025 15:20 (one month ago)

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