Creed: Awesome or Sucks?

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Thorrific

WILL NO-ONE COMMENT ON THE BRILLIANCE OF THIS NAME? Mr. Darnielle, we have a winner.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 15:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

all of mr. darnielle's points are well-taken.

but creed still sux

― Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 30 January 2003 08:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

Creed sucks. Thorrific is absolutely spot-on describing a segment of their fans.

But any self-respecting trailer-trash mullethead would not like Creed when they have their Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Metallica, and AC/DC.

I just see the trailer trash mullethead kids breaking beer bottles on the side of a junked-out double-wide saying, "TOOL IS THE FUCKIN SHIT!" instead of "CREED IS THE FUCKIN SHIT!"

Creed is pop music for "Ordinary Fucking People."

― Donkey Hote, Friday, 31 January 2003 05:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

four months pass...

god this band are shite

― Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 5 June 2003 22:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

I stand by "With Arms Wide Open," and "My Sacrifice" is fun if you're drunk.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 5 June 2003 22:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

I stand by "With Arms Wide Open," and "My Sacrifice" is fun if you're drunk.

you know anthony, if yer gonna like cheese we gotta get you to like higher-quality cheese not cheez-whiz like creed!

― Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 5 June 2003 22:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

Too shit to even describe how shit they realy are.

― Jrvision (visionjr), Thursday, 5 June 2003 23:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Creed have composed some nice melodies.

― Geir H0ngr0, Thursday, 5 June 2003 23:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

Mostly I just find them, as well as Staind, dull, mediocre and uninspiring rather than actually offensive. I did hate WAWO at the time, esp with all that radio overkill but "My Sacrifice" or the " . . . six feet ain't so far down" song ("One Last Breath"?) don't really either bother or do a lot for me. I will say for the former that the chords after the chorus do sound a bit more interesting than what I'd expect from a band of this nature and it kind of does achieve a tiny bit of a driving-into-open-spaces mood, though it's too plain to really do much with it. Nickelback are slightly better.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 6 June 2003 03:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

Nickelback have at least one fucking awesome song, "How You Remind Me." The video is classic cheese (the band even admitted it on tv, the singer was watching it going "oh she left, now I'm all sad again...boo hoo...") but the song grooves way more than anything by Creed or Staind (though "With Arms Wide Open" is a great I'm-a-be-a-good-daddy power ballad, with understandably self-loathing lyrics too boot!). "How You Remind Me," like Linkin Park's "In The End" is the kind of radio monolith that deserves to be played over and over again. The only people who can't like are the people who'd hate ANY song that got played on the radio over and over.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 6 June 2003 19:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

or who refuse to like anything that the frat guy next to them might also like too.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 6 June 2003 19:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

Can it be said that if you are a current rock band and are popular enough to have records playing on mainstream radio (Clear Channel--natch), then you probably suck?

I'd say this is almost true.

― earlnash, Friday, 6 June 2003 20:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

The new Matchbox Twenty stuff is shockingly fun to listen to.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 June 2003 20:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

The only people who can't like are the people who'd hate ANY song that got played on the radio over and over.

And how wrong you are.

The new Matchbox Twenty stuff is shockingly fun to listen to.

They have a new album?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 June 2003 20:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah, very little fanfare but they've had a couple of hits off of it. Rob Thomas has finally learned how to sing and no longer sounds like a smug twat, which improves things immensely.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 June 2003 20:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ah, but does he still LOOK like a smug twat, though?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 June 2003 21:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

My lord, I thought I was the only one hearing the non-crapitude & lack of twatness in the new Matchbox 20.

― David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 7 June 2003 03:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

the first single from the new matchbox 20 was leagues better than anything they've released prior, though not so great I felt the need to download it or anything

― James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 7 June 2003 03:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

That first was more fun than anything else (though that "If You're Gone" song remains my fave of theirs - the horns do it), but it still sounds like a rewrite of "Smooth," which may end up being Rob Thomas's greatest contribution to the world, aside from killing the commercial careers of the Counting Crows and Hootie & The Blowfish, whom Matchbox always seemed like a combination of what folks liked about both bands.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 7 June 2003 15:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...

SUCKS!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

This was a fun thread to go back and read, as it shows off how wonderfully histrionic we can get 'round these parts. And I love the "Vedder Knockoff Vox + Detuned Guitars + Overwrought Christian Themes = Midwest Fratboy Apocalypse Of DOOOOOOOM!!!" logic at work.

Anyway, I will go on record as saying that I like "Higher". I wasn't listening to the radio or watching music videos when the song first hit, so I only ever heard it in shops or taxis and thus never had the chance to get sick of it. Divorced of its settings, it's a perfectly acceptable pop-metal song.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link

is anyone here genuinely upset that creed is no more?!?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 18:06 (nineteen years ago) link

all of mr. darnielle's points are well-taken.

but creed still sux

-- Tad (llamasfu...), January 30th, 2003

god this band are shite

-- Tad (llamasfu...), June 5th, 2003

SUCKS!

-- Eisbär (llamasfu...), April 5th, 2005.

― Masked Gazza, Wednesday, 6 April 2005 02:22 (nineteen years ago) link

creed is fun to play on the six string guitar. plus, dude's a baritone so we all can sing along!

― irrigation can save your people (irrigation can save your peopl), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 03:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I once met Paul Reed Smith, the founder of the guitar company. It was at some alumni function at St. Mary's College in Maryland, and the dean and some of the other people there were all over him as a (now) rich former student (he didn't graduate), and just kind of doing a giant fluff job on him...so, I asked him "Why Mark Tremonti?" I didn't care...I have no connection to St. Mary's...and he launched into a 5 minute diatribe about these guys ability as musicians, and quality as artists, and how great it was to play with them when he has...PRS himself was a mite pretentious, but he was a pretty good musician when I played with him later on, and he was pretty passionate. Don't know if it was profit driven or what.

I mean, lots of folks assume that blues/jazz should be in the same bin b/c Sam Goody puts them in the same dark corner (pun intended) of the store, so why shouldn't they pay more attention to Creed b/c they used to be on giant posters in the front window?

I think Creed is an interesting study in what manu-pop, pop, and popular bands have as their key characteristics.

― Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 22:35 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...

plus, dude's a baritone so we all can sing along!

This saddens me so much.

― The Ghost of The Weepiest Baritone (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:14 (eighteen years ago) link

You should be glad others take an interest in singing.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Why is it that, aside from Depeche Mode and The Smiths, all of the bands with baritone frontmen suck?

― The Ghost of The Weepiest Baritone (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Anyway, the greatest story ever told.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:11 (eighteen years ago) link

so so so funny

― manuel (manuel), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Why is it that, aside from Depeche Mode and The Smiths, all of the bands with baritone frontmen suck?

Joy Division. The Bad Seeds. The Tindersticks. KINO. The National.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 21:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Why is it that, aside from Joy Division, Depeche Mode and The Smiths, all of the bands with baritone frontmen suck?

― The Ghost of Actually I've Never Heard KINO Or The National (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link

It's funny - I never really considered Morrissey's voice a proper baritone because of the godawful things he used to do with it.

If I decoded your last post correctly, the bone of contention would be the Tindersticks. Fair enough; they're an acquired taste, and pretty monotonous as well. I like them still.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link

oh man, that stapp story ned linked to...whoa

― latebloomer's rectal mocha latte (latebloomer), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Dan, I assume we're placing Sisters Of Mercy in the bass vocal camp, right?

― John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, also: Swans, R.E.M., Silver Jews, Smog!

(As you can see, this a sore spot for me, for one obvious reason)

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 22:12 (eighteen years ago) link

If it weren't for the DJs at the local modern rock station going so ga-ga over them one night at Floyd's Music Store in 1995-96 or so (to the point where they decided to make the first Locals Only compilation just to have them available on CD and gave "My Own Prison" and "Torn" the first two slots on the disc), none of you would have ever heard these bastards.

― Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of social estrangement. (Eastern Mantra), Thursday, 18 August 2005 00:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh God. Ned, that's the best thing ever.

― Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of social estrangement. (Eastern Mantra), Thursday, 18 August 2005 01:12 (eighteen years ago) link

haha Sisters of Mercy are kind of an "I'll just talk in a low voice and people'll maybe call that 'bass'" vocal tehcnique, v. cult

― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 18 August 2005 01:18 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

ALLELULIA!

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 April 2009 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh Jesus Christ.

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 27 April 2009 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link

After a six-year hiatus,...

SIX YEARS IS NOWHERE LONG ENOUGH!

― Alex in NYC, Monday, 27 April 2009 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link

wow i agree with you!!!!

― Surmounter, Monday, 27 April 2009 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link

"We're not looking at this as a reunion. It's more of a rebirth."

Oh fuck you!

― Alex in NYC, Monday, 27 April 2009 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Though they stayed in touch through holiday cards and the occasional phone call, the group refrained from recording together in order to, "explore other creative outlets and build the main priority in all of our lives, which is our family," says Stapp.

― ~*GAME 2 SNYPA*~ (omar little), Monday, 27 April 2009 19:04 (fifteen years ago) link

'thinking of you this season'

- scott

― ~*GAME 2 SNYPA*~ (omar little), Monday, 27 April 2009 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Bahaha

― Alex in NYC, Monday, 27 April 2009 19:06 (fifteen years ago) link

i cringed when i read this on idolator this morning, even though they've basically been hinting at it for a while now.

― borntohula, Monday, 27 April 2009 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link

And who will get the coveted opening slot on the tour?

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 April 2009 19:14 (fifteen years ago) link

this is a good litmus test band, kinda like boondock saints is a good litmus test movie.

― ~*GAME 2 SNYPA*~ (omar little), Monday, 27 April 2009 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link

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