So we started talking about Dean Stockwell over on ILE's Harry Dean Stanton thread, and then he turned up dead, and somebody quoted a couple things, one about his co-writing Human Highway, and the following Tweet (although if you've read more of Shakey than I did, this may well be old news):In Peru, Dennis very strongly urged me to write ascreenplay," Stockwell recalls, "and he would get itproduced. I came back home to Topanga Canyon[in the mountains outside LA] and wrote After TheGold Rush. Neil was living in Topanga then too,and a copy of it somehow got to him. He had hadwriter's block for months, and his recordcompany was after him. And after he read thisscreenplay he wrote the After The Gold Rushalbum in three weeks."
Stockwell's screenplay is long lost. Young'sbiographer Jimmy McDonough was told that itwas "an end-of-the-world movie" which endedwith a tidal wave crashing towards its hero as hestood in the parking lot of the Topanga hippies'favourite hang-out, the Corral, whose regularsincluded Young and Joni Mitchell, Stockwell'sfriend Russ Tamblyn was set to play a rockerrecluse living in a castle, and wild-haired totalartist George Herms was meant to haul a "tree oflife" like Christ with his crucifix across theCanyon.
"lt'J not a linear, regular storytelling kind of film,"StoIkwell explains, "Really what was in my mindwas that the gold rush in effect created CaliforniaAnd the film took place on the day California wassupposed to go into the ocean. So that's whathappened after the gold rush."
― dow, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 02:59 (three years ago) link
It was meant to be part of Universal's short-lived "Youth Pictures" division, which was shuttered after practically all of their releases (among them Hopper's The Last Movie, P.Fonda's The Hired Hand, and Two-Lane Blacktop) bombed.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 03:36 (three years ago) link
Hopper's The Last Movie, P.Fonda's The Hired Hand, and Two-Lane Blacktop
Inspired a young Jim Steinman to write "Two Out of Three Ain't Bad." (Truthfully, I haven't seen The Last Movie.)
― clemenza, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 03:40 (three years ago) link
Iirc the other produced films were Forman's Taking Off, and Diary of A Mad Housewife, which of course has a big Neil connection too.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 03:43 (three years ago) link
There's a funny bit in Shakey about Stockwell giving some clueless execs a tour of prospective shooting locations in Topanga, and introducing them to locals he wanted to cast, "This is Janis Joplin...Yes, she's very famous & she's going to be in the movie!"
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 03:46 (three years ago) link
Iirc, Stockwell was the guy who introduced Neil to the music of Devo.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 03:50 (three years ago) link
#onethread
― just staying (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 05:28 (three years ago) link
Hey now now hey now now
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 05:49 (three years ago) link
don't dream it's over it dream it's over now dn't
― just staying (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 05:56 (three years ago) link
Iirc the other produced films were Forman's Taking Off
Love this movie
― thing that i used to think was cool but now i just don't have time for (stevie), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 11:22 (three years ago) link
HBD Neil!
Spotify just threw "Heading West" from Barn at me: A happy version of "Don't Be Denied"?
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 13 November 2021 00:01 (three years ago) link
"Doobie Denied"! Doctor took another look in his head, "Better cut that out, " he said, so leaving the weed after 50-odd years, he wrote Waging Heavy Peace instead, he said in the intro. Happy results for me, not everybody.
― dow, Saturday, 13 November 2021 00:43 (three years ago) link
Truthfully, I haven't seen The Last Movie
The Last Movie is amazing, although maybe a happy accident if you give somebody who made a road movie on drugs more drugs and free time with a camera where there are even more drugs. At times like Jodorowsky made a film within a film about a cargo cult
It's the reason why Stockwell's quote begins "In Peru..."
There's a Stockwell/Hopper/Marjorie Cameron link to the Stones and Kenneth Anger too.
― Long enough attention span for a Stephen Bissette blu-ray extra (aldo), Saturday, 13 November 2021 00:56 (three years ago) link
I thought The Last Movie was good too.
― Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 13 November 2021 00:58 (three years ago) link
Hopper had supposedly completed a conventional edit of The Last Movie when he showed it to Jodorowsky, who was visiting his home in Taos. Jodorowsky criticized this version of the film so harshly that Hopper decided to recut the film in its final form, so no one could accuse him of "selling out".
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 13 November 2021 02:00 (three years ago) link
Random thought...The Breakfast in America thread had me checking Billboard to see where it ended up on the year-end album list, which in turn had me checking other years, and it still astounds me that Neil Young once topped such a year-end list.
https://www.billboard.com/charts/year-end/1972/top-billboard-200-albums
― clemenza, Saturday, 13 November 2021 04:08 (three years ago) link
Mere seconds before the house was burned down...
pic.twitter.com/AWXroeRSv1— SNL Hosts Introducing the Musical Guest (@snlhostsintro) November 12, 2021
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 13 November 2021 04:34 (three years ago) link
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2s8diq
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 13 November 2021 04:36 (three years ago) link
This was the first episode of SNL I ever watched. It was a big moment for me at the time, as a 10-year-old. Unfortunately I had zero interest in Neil Young (who I'm sure I knew only from "This Note's for You") and skipped this historic performance completely. 4 years later I saw him do the same song on MTV and he would eventually become one of the main musical touchstones of my life.
― Chris L, Saturday, 13 November 2021 04:47 (three years ago) link
I didn't realize this until McDonough wrote about it in Shakey, but the original broadcast is even more amazing. Neil was moving so fast and so wild, the cameras struggled to keep up with him. I guess they recorded something like the video equivalent of a multi-track because for the re-broadcasts, they went back and re-edited the performance so that Neil is always centered for whichever rigid camera shot was chosen.
Most YouTube uploads have come from Comedy Central re-runs or the SNL 25th anniversary music DVD box set, but I know at least one person out there who uploaded a VHS copy of the original broadcast - quality was low, but I was able to rip it and put it somewhere on a drive.
― birdistheword, Saturday, 13 November 2021 06:48 (three years ago) link
I remember reading about that before I saw the clip; it was less that the cameras struggled to keep up with him and more that he was purposely fucking with the cameras, ducking out of shot whenever possible. I first saw it on a 1990 rerun on NBC, and was confused: Neil was squarely in all the shots. I still haven't found/seen the original live broadcast, but yeah, SNL made sure that even the first reruns on NBC had Neil in frame.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 13 November 2021 14:43 (three years ago) link
I think I saw it live as it broadcast. Does he break almost every string on his guitar in the retake version?
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 13 November 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link
It was the same exact performance for both versions, they just re-edited the multi-camera footage. I know because when I found the crappy YouTube upload of the original broadcast, I swapped the audio out with the audio from the SNL 25th Anniversary DVD and it was a perfect match. I still need to find it - the video quality was so poor (looks like a dub of a VHS dub, etc.), I never felt compelled to watch it that often.
― birdistheword, Saturday, 13 November 2021 18:01 (three years ago) link
OIC
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 13 November 2021 18:03 (three years ago) link
A great video to show people on the Stones thread who were all "lol Steve Jordan, what a snooze."
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 November 2021 18:06 (three years ago) link
Thanks to that host intros Twitter account, I went looking for info about the actual shows themselves, and I happened on this blog: https://www.onesnladay.com/reviews/, which goes over each episode in pretty good detail (excepting, sadly, most of the music) with many blanks being filled in by that rarest of internet beasts, the Quality Comments Section.
One of my big takeaways from it that I hadn't really realized before was how much chicanery goes into even first-run SNL reruns, anything from 'correcting' musical performances like Neil's and minor edits to sketches to replacing live takes with ones from dress rehearsal (or editing hybrid 'Frankenstein' takes from both) and rearranging the running order of bits.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 13 November 2021 18:39 (three years ago) link
Does he break almost every string on his guitar in the retake version?
This was the part that stuck with me for 30+ years, the way he yanked all the strings off the guitar at the end of the song. Non-guitarist me immediately thought, "I bet that hurt like a motherfucker."
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 13 November 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link
There's a bunch of different SNL rehearsal bits up on YT, including the dress rehearsal versions of Neil in '89 (including an exclusive "Needle &..." prefacing a nice "No More"):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHs_f063EzQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiey2l4mLBc
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 13 November 2021 21:09 (three years ago) link
Non-guitarist me immediately thought, "I bet that hurt like a motherfucker."He used the Bigsby tremolo arm to yank the strings off. That said, as a guitarist, I would be far too afraid of a string hitting me in the eye to try something like that.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 13 November 2021 21:15 (three years ago) link
i hadn't seen the rehearsal performances before! they're just as good if not better than the broadcast ones, so excellent to get some more! how long were Jordan and Drayton in the band? not that long, right?
― just staying (Karl Malone), Saturday, 13 November 2021 21:35 (three years ago) link
They were brought in from Keith Richards' X-Pensive Winos for the taping, as Chad Cromwell & Rick Rojas were out on the road with other acts. Supposedly there's a studio take of "Fuckin' Up" by this band in vault somewhere, but any further recordings were derailed by people blowing off sessions.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 13 November 2021 22:03 (three years ago) link
Basically that day & night on SNL was it for that band.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 13 November 2021 22:04 (three years ago) link
retire while you're on top imo
― just staying (Karl Malone), Saturday, 13 November 2021 22:06 (three years ago) link
Another thing was that by the time of the taping, David Briggs had returned to the fold, edging out Niko Bolas (who put that SNL band together) and setting the wheels in motion for a reunion with Crazy Horse and the whole Ragged Glory/Weld album-tour cycle.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 13 November 2021 22:11 (three years ago) link
Unfortunately, they never addressed "Doghouse".
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 13 November 2021 22:16 (three years ago) link
While I trust Bob Dylan’s (and/or Tony Garnier’s) impeccable taste in assembling a band, it’s rare that I’m excited about whoever’s in his touring band that year. But I am very much looking forward to seeing Bob next week knowing that Charley Drayton is his current drummer.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 13 November 2021 22:20 (three years ago) link
Oh yeah. In the latest Flaggin' Down The Double E's (Dylan show download newsletter) that I've received, guest commentator and field correspondent Jon Wurster reports:
Knoxville was my first show of this tour and I didn’t want any spoilers, so I chose not to listen to any recordings of earlier concerts. I was aware that there had been a couple lineup changes since those November 2019 shows. Charlie Sexton, now out with Elvis Costello, had been replaced by Patty Griffin/John Hiatt guitarist Doug Lancio. Matt Chamberlain is one of the greatest drummers of the modern era, and I was sorry to hear that he would not be participating on this run. Any concerns I had about the change behind the drums disappeared when I learned Charley Drayton was the new kid in town.
My favorite drummer (Steve Jordan) is playing with the Stones, and my second favorite drummer is now with Dylan? If Topper Headon joins the Replacements I’ll know this has all just been a beautiful fever dream. Charley is one of those rare drummers (like Jordan, Alex Van Halen and Charlie Watts) whose feel and snare drum sound are instantly recognizable and one-of-a-kind. The Divinyls’ “I Touch Myself”? That’s Charley. The Replacements’ “Merry Go Round”? Charley. “Love Shack”? Charley, too. AND he’s the bassist for what might be the greatest televised rock ‘n’ roll performance in the history of Earth. (links to xpost SNL vids)...Dylan seems to thrive on chaos, and Knoxville had several great chaotic moments, particularly during a somewhat extended “Most Likely You Go Your Way.”
I couldn’t take my eyes off Tony Garnier as he studied Bob’s hands to see where they might next land on the piano keyboard. Charley, who really impressed me later in the show with subtle brush work and understated-yet-driving, Kenny Buttrey-style drumming, broke into surprised smiles several times during “Most Likely” as he reacted to where Bob was taking the song...
To check this newsletter out:https://dylanlive.substack.com
― dow, Sunday, 14 November 2021 04:15 (three years ago) link
One of the best things about those SNL clips is Neil & Poncho's brilliant onstage chemistry with Drayton.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 14 November 2021 06:43 (three years ago) link
to replacing live takes with ones from dress rehearsal (or editing hybrid 'Frankenstein' takes from both)
― Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 14 November 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link
Friend made of dead people?
Wake up, smell coffee!
― birdistheword, Sunday, 14 November 2021 18:14 (three years ago) link
Would have seen some blood and severed fingers had Poncho tried to rip out his own guitar's practically piano wire strings.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 14 November 2021 18:24 (three years ago) link
I couldn’t seem to see the string ripping incident in the posted video. Was it edited out?
― Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 14 November 2021 19:27 (three years ago) link
I don’t remember the string ripping but I do remember the last 10 minutes of him playing without strings and thinking every other rock musician currently alive is a total poser
― brimstead, Sunday, 14 November 2021 19:29 (three years ago) link
It's at the very end of the performance, right before they would have cut to the bumper.
― birdistheword, Sunday, 14 November 2021 19:36 (three years ago) link
Just now at the library, I saw a nearly full-page review pf Barn, in print ed. of Wall Street Journal---otherwise prob behind paywall, but gist is that Mark Richardson really likes it, while remaining disappointed by brevity of the most rockin' tracks: album good, not great, because doesn't cut loose. (Reminds me of xgau on Reactor: Ain't got no takeoff. B+)
― dow, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 00:50 (two years ago) link
oh, now I also see that he gave Rust Bucket an A minus, but that review is subscription-only, so I'll live without it.
― dow, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 01:50 (two years ago) link
Looking back at Buffalo Springfield debut:....Strangely, it remains one of the worst produced but greatest albums you’ll ever hear in what is undeniably a product of its time.
The album touches on every human emotion possible and is electrified, downbeat, hazy and abrupt, and for this reason, it is one of the definitive albums of the era.What other albums are the worst produced but greatest? (Also sounds like a bootleg)Good on Mick McStarkey:https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/stephen-stills-neil-young-buffalo-springfields-debut-albu
― dow, Monday, 6 December 2021 03:19 (two years ago) link
Husker Du albums maybe
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 6 December 2021 15:32 (two years ago) link
Tim
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 6 December 2021 15:39 (two years ago) link
I know Neil regards the mono version of Buffalo Springfield as the authentic version, but even the stereo version isn't that badly produced compared to what else was around in 1966.
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 6 December 2021 15:46 (two years ago) link