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While I trust Bob Dylan’s (and/or Tony Garnier’s) impeccable taste in assembling a band, it’s rare that I’m excited about whoever’s in his touring band that year. But I am very much looking forward to seeing Bob next week knowing that Charley Drayton is his current drummer.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 13 November 2021 22:20 (three years ago) link

Oh yeah. In the latest Flaggin' Down The Double E's (Dylan show download newsletter) that I've received, guest commentator and field correspondent Jon Wurster reports:

Knoxville was my first show of this tour and I didn’t want any spoilers, so I chose not to listen to any recordings of earlier concerts. I was aware that there had been a couple lineup changes since those November 2019 shows. Charlie Sexton, now out with Elvis Costello, had been replaced by Patty Griffin/John Hiatt guitarist Doug Lancio. Matt Chamberlain is one of the greatest drummers of the modern era, and I was sorry to hear that he would not be participating on this run. Any concerns I had about the change behind the drums disappeared when I learned Charley Drayton was the new kid in town.

My favorite drummer (Steve Jordan) is playing with the Stones, and my second favorite drummer is now with Dylan? If Topper Headon joins the Replacements I’ll know this has all just been a beautiful fever dream. Charley is one of those rare drummers (like Jordan, Alex Van Halen and Charlie Watts) whose feel and snare drum sound are instantly recognizable and one-of-a-kind. The Divinyls’ “I Touch Myself”? That’s Charley. The Replacements’ “Merry Go Round”? Charley. “Love Shack”? Charley, too. AND he’s the bassist for what might be the greatest televised rock ‘n’ roll performance in the history of Earth. (links to xpost SNL vids)
...Dylan seems to thrive on chaos, and Knoxville had several great chaotic moments, particularly during a somewhat extended “Most Likely You Go Your Way.”

I couldn’t take my eyes off Tony Garnier as he studied Bob’s hands to see where they might next land on the piano keyboard. Charley, who really impressed me later in the show with subtle brush work and understated-yet-driving, Kenny Buttrey-style drumming, broke into surprised smiles several times during “Most Likely” as he reacted to where Bob was taking the song...

To check this newsletter out:
https://dylanlive.substack.com

dow, Sunday, 14 November 2021 04:15 (three years ago) link

One of the best things about those SNL clips is Neil & Poncho's brilliant onstage chemistry with Drayton.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 14 November 2021 06:43 (three years ago) link

to replacing live takes with ones from dress rehearsal (or editing hybrid 'Frankenstein' takes from both)

Hey, what about Tarzan and Tonto? Friends good!

Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 14 November 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link

Friend made of dead people?

Wake up, smell coffee!

birdistheword, Sunday, 14 November 2021 18:14 (three years ago) link

This was the part that stuck with me for 30+ years, the way he yanked all the strings off the guitar at the end of the song. Non-guitarist me immediately thought, "I bet that hurt like a motherfucker."

Would have seen some blood and severed fingers had Poncho tried to rip out his own guitar's practically piano wire strings.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 14 November 2021 18:24 (three years ago) link

I couldn’t seem to see the string ripping incident in the posted video. Was it edited out?

Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 14 November 2021 19:27 (three years ago) link

I don’t remember the string ripping but I do remember the last 10 minutes of him playing without strings and thinking every other rock musician currently alive is a total poser

brimstead, Sunday, 14 November 2021 19:29 (three years ago) link

It's at the very end of the performance, right before they would have cut to the bumper.

birdistheword, Sunday, 14 November 2021 19:36 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Just now at the library, I saw a nearly full-page review pf Barn, in print ed. of Wall Street Journal---otherwise prob behind paywall, but gist is that Mark Richardson really likes it, while remaining disappointed by brevity of the most rockin' tracks: album good, not great, because doesn't cut loose. (Reminds me of xgau on Reactor: Ain't got no takeoff. B+)

dow, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 00:50 (two years ago) link

oh, now I also see that he gave Rust Bucket an A minus, but that review is subscription-only, so I'll live without it.

dow, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 01:50 (two years ago) link

Looking back at Buffalo Springfield debut:
....Strangely, it remains one of the worst produced but greatest albums you’ll ever hear in what is undeniably a product of its time.

The album touches on every human emotion possible and is electrified, downbeat, hazy and abrupt, and for this reason, it is one of the definitive albums of the era.
What other albums are the worst produced but greatest? (Also sounds like a bootleg)
Good on Mick McStarkey:
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/stephen-stills-neil-young-buffalo-springfields-debut-albu

dow, Monday, 6 December 2021 03:19 (two years ago) link

Husker Du albums maybe

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 6 December 2021 15:32 (two years ago) link

Tim

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 6 December 2021 15:39 (two years ago) link

I know Neil regards the mono version of Buffalo Springfield as the authentic version, but even the stereo version isn't that badly produced compared to what else was around in 1966.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 6 December 2021 15:46 (two years ago) link

stooges albums

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 6 December 2021 18:22 (two years ago) link

The original Cale mixes of the first Stooges album show how bad it could have sounded, with handclaps louder than the guitars and the treble turned right up.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 6 December 2021 18:46 (two years ago) link

Springsteen's "Nebraska"?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 December 2021 18:55 (two years ago) link

Countless indie label albums from the punk era through the '80s. Sly & the Family Stone's "There's a Riot Goin' On" which even had its physical multitrack worn down because Sly dubbed and erased shit on it over and over again while he was making it.

IIRC Prince's "Dirty Mind" was put together from recordings that were originally intended as demos or that WB mistook for demos. It doesn't sound like a poor recording to me but it's not really hi-fi either, especially for a major label album.

birdistheword, Monday, 6 December 2021 19:05 (two years ago) link

80s SST records are the worst, which is even more frustrating due to Ginn's stranglehold on 'em that apparently makes it impossible for them to revert back to the artists so they can elect to reissue and / or remaster them. Can you imagine a remastered Zen Arcade, Flip Your Wig, or New Day Rising? I'd line up at midnight for that. Anyway, sorry to derail.

I'm gonna buy Barn, probably. I like the most recent preview song a lot more than the previous two.

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 6 December 2021 20:18 (two years ago) link

80s SST records are the worst, which is even more frustrating due to Ginn's stranglehold on 'em that apparently makes it impossible for them to revert back to the artists so they can elect to reissue and / or remaster them. Can you imagine a remastered Zen Arcade, Flip Your Wig, or New Day Rising? I'd line up at midnight for that. Anyway, sorry to derail.

I remember talking to Carducci for my Black Flag book and arguing that the catalogue really needed remastering, etc, and he was adamant that those records sound perfect and didn't need any work whatsoever. And when I spoke to Bob last year, his take was that it would be too much effort and legal wrangling to get the Huskers tapes from Greg, that he hasn't the heart or stomach for it, that the music is out there available on streaming, tc, and that the box set a couple of years back will be the last word on historical Husker material coming out. Breaks my heart tbh.

Enjoy the brighter sounds of Analog on CD (stevie), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 10:53 (two years ago) link

Man that sucks. I wonder what happens when Greg's gone and whether it would make it easier for Bob et al to get back their catalog if they're still around?

Re: the Hüsker Dü SST studio LP's, I usually take some off the top and maybe add a bit around the bass. Seems to help a lot - warmer with more body and more oomph.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link

those records sound perfect and didn't need any work whatsoever

I agree with this 100%

that being said I wish Ginn would hurry up and die so something can be done about legit reissues

chaos goblin line cook (sleeve), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 16:36 (two years ago) link

I mean I think if you change the sound of those records they become different records. But the CDs are very quiet and sound considerably underwhelming next to the OG vinyl.

Enjoy the brighter sounds of Analog on CD (stevie), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 20:25 (two years ago) link

I've only ever heard Zen Arcade on vinyl, but it does sound markedly better than the CD. Feel like the Warner Bros CDs don't sound that much better than the SST albums, tbh.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 20:35 (two years ago) link

man id love to remix 3 Way Tie For Last myself!! new song is crackin! nils is lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AuZ1Gqtsac

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 7 December 2021 20:41 (two years ago) link

I've only ever heard Zen Arcade on vinyl, but it does sound markedly better than the CD.

Wait, what?

Everybody Loves Ramen (WmC), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 20:50 (two years ago) link

Old Horse

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 21:49 (two years ago) link

xp yes we've been through this in exhausting detail on the Husker thread and that is the general consensus, which I agree with

chaos goblin line cook (sleeve), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 21:54 (two years ago) link

( I have an OG 1984 2LP and a CD rip to compare)

chaos goblin line cook (sleeve), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 21:55 (two years ago) link

I mean, I wouldn't say it's like some audiophiles wet dream and I'm not listening to it on a $15,000 system or anything, but the LP does sound a lot better to my ears than the CD.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 December 2021 22:16 (two years ago) link

Barn is unexpectedly enjoyable. "They Might Be Lost" is maybe one of a few 00s and onwards songs of his that I think has some longevity. Almost feels like it should've been a Nick Cave track.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 16 December 2021 05:39 (two years ago) link

there must have been some sort of anti-minneapolis crusade in the cd mastering biz, because the vast majority of Prince cds also sounded like shit compared to the vinyl

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Thursday, 16 December 2021 09:34 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Yeah I really like Barn! This is way better than I expected, it's not a slam dunk and there are a couple of clunkers, but I didn't expect it to be as subtle and pretty as it was for the Horse. Yeah I wish they cut loose a few more times, but this is probably about as good as I might expect given his last few years of new output.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 7 January 2022 20:47 (two years ago) link

bunch of good stuff on the archives site lately — amazing film of the acoustic "shots" from the boarding house in 1978, a beautiful 1987 solo session called Summer Songs, and a killer 1993 show in London with Booker T and the MGs.

tylerw, Friday, 7 January 2022 22:10 (two years ago) link

Any rumblings of Summer Songs getting a physical release?

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 7 January 2022 22:12 (two years ago) link

Ha, nevermind, just saw that it's slated to be in Archives III. God would I love the mid-2022 date for that thing to be real.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 7 January 2022 22:13 (two years ago) link

lol yeah. but who knows, it's not vinyl, so maybe it'll happen. seems like it'll be a beast, covering more than 10 years. Almost would prefer that he split it up, but Neil likes big things.

tylerw, Friday, 7 January 2022 23:54 (two years ago) link

When I told my brother about Summer Songs, he did an imitation of Neil rummaging through his archives, clearing away piles of junk..."What's this...oh, it's an album!"

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 8 January 2022 15:27 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Neil Young Demands Spotify Remove His Music Over ‘False Information About Vaccines’

“They can have Joe Rogan or Young,” Neil Young wrote in a letter to his manager and label. “Not both”

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/neil-young-demands-spotify-remove-music-vaccine-disinformation-1290020/

nickn, Tuesday, 25 January 2022 00:51 (two years ago) link

I like it.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 25 January 2022 01:03 (two years ago) link

I love Neil and I love him even more for pushing back against Spotify like this. Fuck Rogan and fuck Spotify for giving him that much money for disinformation.

That said, I have to acknowledge that it’s easy for a guy who has his own dedicated streaming site to pull off of Spotify without feeling much of a sting. Other artists aren’t as fortunate in being able to take that kind of stand against Spotify.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 25 January 2022 01:03 (two years ago) link

I hope Neil Young will remember
A Joe Rogan don't need him around anyhow

peace, man, Tuesday, 25 January 2022 02:10 (two years ago) link

(I'm obviously on Neil's side here. Just playing madlibs with obvious Neil Young beef bars)

peace, man, Tuesday, 25 January 2022 02:11 (two years ago) link

He’s seen the needle
And the damage not done

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 25 January 2022 02:18 (two years ago) link

So far I give Barn a B+/Hon. Mention: I do like some of it real much, most of it to some extent. But Way Down In The Rust Bucket is what really gets me going: A minus, cos I could live w/o a few tracks as songs "Bite The Bullet"no; he should leave being crass to the Stones) and a few more are more predictable than compelling---but there are at least 95 minutes of keepers--faves incl. "Danger Bird" (its live debut, says his Warners site), "Cinnamon Girl," "Roll Another Number For The Road," and my number one is "My Country Home," 15 minutes ov rural psych--continuing thee countryoid theme, here is "Homegrown," with 1970-1990 scarecrow fashion (reminding me of Thurston Moore on Nirvana's "Children of the Corn" looks) Rock On!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8-AbMGbZ2c

dow, Tuesday, 25 January 2022 05:59 (two years ago) link

fuck Rogan, go Neil

bad milk blood robot (sleeve), Tuesday, 25 January 2022 06:07 (two years ago) link

He’s a good egg.

Sam Weller, Tuesday, 25 January 2022 07:14 (two years ago) link

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0) at 7:03 24 Jan 22

I love Neil and I love him even more for pushing back against Spotify like this. Fuck Rogan and fuck Spotify for giving him that much money for disinformation.

That said, I have to acknowledge that it’s easy for a guy who has his own dedicated streaming site to pull off of Spotify without feeling much of a sting. Other artists aren’t as fortunate in being able to take that kind of stand against Spotify.


honestly with Neil I wouldn't necessarily assume Archives makes much money, last subscriber number I could find was 20,000 with an aim of 40,000. at $20 a year minus costs, staff, maintenance that's not much

and yes with most artists you could say "well if it didn't make money he wouldn't do it" but that's assuredly not the case

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 January 2022 13:44 (two years ago) link


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