neil young

This was the part that stuck with me for 30+ years, the way he yanked all the strings off the guitar at the end of the song. Non-guitarist me immediately thought, "I bet that hurt like a motherfucker."

Would have seen some blood and severed fingers had Poncho tried to rip out his own guitar's practically piano wire strings.

I couldn’t seem to see the string ripping incident in the posted video. Was it edited out?

I don’t remember the string ripping but I do remember the last 10 minutes of him playing without strings and thinking every other rock musician currently alive is a total poser

It's at the very end of the performance, right before they would have cut to the bumper.

Just now at the library, I saw a nearly full-page review pf Barn, in print ed. of Wall Street Journal---otherwise prob behind paywall, but gist is that Mark Richardson really likes it, while remaining disappointed by brevity of the most rockin' tracks: album good, not great, because doesn't cut loose. (Reminds me of xgau on Reactor: Ain't got no takeoff. B+)

oh, now I also see that he gave Rust Bucket an A minus, but that review is subscription-only, so I'll live without it.

Looking back at Buffalo Springfield debut:
....Strangely, it remains one of the worst produced but greatest albums you’ll ever hear in what is undeniably a product of its time.

The album touches on every human emotion possible and is electrified, downbeat, hazy and abrupt, and for this reason, it is one of the definitive albums of the era.
What other albums are the worst produced but greatest? (Also sounds like a bootleg)
Good on Mick McStarkey:
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/stephen-stills-neil-young-buffalo-springfields-debut-albu

Husker Du albums maybe

Tim

I know Neil regards the mono version of Buffalo Springfield as the authentic version, but even the stereo version isn't that badly produced compared to what else was around in 1966.

stooges albums

The original Cale mixes of the first Stooges album show how bad it could have sounded, with handclaps louder than the guitars and the treble turned right up.

Springsteen's "Nebraska"?

Countless indie label albums from the punk era through the '80s. Sly & the Family Stone's "There's a Riot Goin' On" which even had its physical multitrack worn down because Sly dubbed and erased shit on it over and over again while he was making it.

IIRC Prince's "Dirty Mind" was put together from recordings that were originally intended as demos or that WB mistook for demos. It doesn't sound like a poor recording to me but it's not really hi-fi either, especially for a major label album.

80s SST records are the worst, which is even more frustrating due to Ginn's stranglehold on 'em that apparently makes it impossible for them to revert back to the artists so they can elect to reissue and / or remaster them. Can you imagine a remastered Zen Arcade, Flip Your Wig, or New Day Rising? I'd line up at midnight for that. Anyway, sorry to derail.

I'm gonna buy Barn, probably. I like the most recent preview song a lot more than the previous two.

80s SST records are the worst, which is even more frustrating due to Ginn's stranglehold on 'em that apparently makes it impossible for them to revert back to the artists so they can elect to reissue and / or remaster them. Can you imagine a remastered Zen Arcade, Flip Your Wig, or New Day Rising? I'd line up at midnight for that. Anyway, sorry to derail.

I remember talking to Carducci for my Black Flag book and arguing that the catalogue really needed remastering, etc, and he was adamant that those records sound perfect and didn't need any work whatsoever. And when I spoke to Bob last year, his take was that it would be too much effort and legal wrangling to get the Huskers tapes from Greg, that he hasn't the heart or stomach for it, that the music is out there available on streaming, tc, and that the box set a couple of years back will be the last word on historical Husker material coming out. Breaks my heart tbh.

Man that sucks. I wonder what happens when Greg's gone and whether it would make it easier for Bob et al to get back their catalog if they're still around?

Re: the Hüsker Dü SST studio LP's, I usually take some off the top and maybe add a bit around the bass. Seems to help a lot - warmer with more body and more oomph.

those records sound perfect and didn't need any work whatsoever

I agree with this 100%

that being said I wish Ginn would hurry up and die so something can be done about legit reissues

I mean I think if you change the sound of those records they become different records. But the CDs are very quiet and sound considerably underwhelming next to the OG vinyl.

I've only ever heard Zen Arcade on vinyl, but it does sound markedly better than the CD. Feel like the Warner Bros CDs don't sound that much better than the SST albums, tbh.

man id love to remix 3 Way Tie For Last myself!! new song is crackin! nils is lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AuZ1Gqtsac

I've only ever heard Zen Arcade on vinyl, but it does sound markedly better than the CD.

Wait, what?

Old Horse

xp yes we've been through this in exhausting detail on the Husker thread and that is the general consensus, which I agree with

( I have an OG 1984 2LP and a CD rip to compare)

I mean, I wouldn't say it's like some audiophiles wet dream and I'm not listening to it on a $15,000 system or anything, but the LP does sound a lot better to my ears than the CD.

Neil clickbait

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/neil-young-full-moon_n_61afd6d1e4b02df7c6addf3c

Barn is unexpectedly enjoyable. "They Might Be Lost" is maybe one of a few 00s and onwards songs of his that I think has some longevity. Almost feels like it should've been a Nick Cave track.

there must have been some sort of anti-minneapolis crusade in the cd mastering biz, because the vast majority of Prince cds also sounded like shit compared to the vinyl

Yeah I really like Barn! This is way better than I expected, it's not a slam dunk and there are a couple of clunkers, but I didn't expect it to be as subtle and pretty as it was for the Horse. Yeah I wish they cut loose a few more times, but this is probably about as good as I might expect given his last few years of new output.

bunch of good stuff on the archives site lately — amazing film of the acoustic "shots" from the boarding house in 1978, a beautiful 1987 solo session called Summer Songs, and a killer 1993 show in London with Booker T and the MGs.

Any rumblings of Summer Songs getting a physical release?

Ha, nevermind, just saw that it's slated to be in Archives III. God would I love the mid-2022 date for that thing to be real.

lol yeah. but who knows, it's not vinyl, so maybe it'll happen. seems like it'll be a beast, covering more than 10 years. Almost would prefer that he split it up, but Neil likes big things.

When I told my brother about Summer Songs, he did an imitation of Neil rummaging through his archives, clearing away piles of junk..."What's this...oh, it's an album!"

Neil Young Demands Spotify Remove His Music Over ‘False Information About Vaccines’

“They can have Joe Rogan or Young,” Neil Young wrote in a letter to his manager and label. “Not both”

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/neil-young-demands-spotify-remove-music-vaccine-disinformation-1290020/

I like it.

I love Neil and I love him even more for pushing back against Spotify like this. Fuck Rogan and fuck Spotify for giving him that much money for disinformation.

That said, I have to acknowledge that it’s easy for a guy who has his own dedicated streaming site to pull off of Spotify without feeling much of a sting. Other artists aren’t as fortunate in being able to take that kind of stand against Spotify.

I hope Neil Young will remember
A Joe Rogan don't need him around anyhow

(I'm obviously on Neil's side here. Just playing madlibs with obvious Neil Young beef bars)

He’s seen the needle
And the damage not done

So far I give Barn a B+/Hon. Mention: I do like some of it real much, most of it to some extent. But Way Down In The Rust Bucket is what really gets me going: A minus, cos I could live w/o a few tracks as songs "Bite The Bullet"no; he should leave being crass to the Stones) and a few more are more predictable than compelling---but there are at least 95 minutes of keepers--faves incl. "Danger Bird" (its live debut, says his Warners site), "Cinnamon Girl," "Roll Another Number For The Road," and my number one is "My Country Home," 15 minutes ov rural psych--continuing thee countryoid theme, here is "Homegrown," with 1970-1990 scarecrow fashion (reminding me of Thurston Moore on Nirvana's "Children of the Corn" looks) Rock On!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8-AbMGbZ2c

fuck Rogan, go Neil

He’s a good egg.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0) at 7:03 24 Jan 22

I love Neil and I love him even more for pushing back against Spotify like this. Fuck Rogan and fuck Spotify for giving him that much money for disinformation.

That said, I have to acknowledge that it’s easy for a guy who has his own dedicated streaming site to pull off of Spotify without feeling much of a sting. Other artists aren’t as fortunate in being able to take that kind of stand against Spotify.

honestly with Neil I wouldn't necessarily assume Archives makes much money, last subscriber number I could find was 20,000 with an aim of 40,000. at $20 a year minus costs, staff, maintenance that's not much

and yes with most artists you could say "well if it didn't make money he wouldn't do it" but that's assuredly not the case

xpost Rust Bucket is already a classic Neil live album, tremendous

Love Rust Bucket, it's my go-to these days.

I've found Neil's pushback against contemporary bullshit really reassuring, tbh, because if ever there was dude I wouldn't have been shocked was anti-vax/pro covid conspiracy it would be him, and I'm so glad it's not.

Cardiacs pulled all their music off Spotify the other day for presumably the same reason (they merely alluded to 'current events'). If this becomes a domino effect it might achieve the desired, let's see

lol maybe if Taylor Swift does it (onethread)

Yeah bless Neil for doing the right thing but i'm sure “you can have Joe Rogan or Young, not both" is a pretty easy choice for Spotify