are you guys forgetting 'Hot Dog'
― calstars, Thursday, 2 December 2021 13:47 (two years ago) link
"Hots Off" is easily top ten Zep: it took several albums to release a track with so many delightful hairpin turrns.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 December 2021 13:50 (two years ago) link
"Tea For One" >>> "Since I've Been Loving You."
*Hots On obv
Forget it ilx, it's Alfredtown.
― hocus pocus, alakazam (PBKR), Thursday, 2 December 2021 13:54 (two years ago) link
Not hearing more than a track or two in the wild until my mid twenties helped.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 December 2021 13:56 (two years ago) link
Presence is like an epic battle between entropy and lead guitar, which finally succumbs in the last song.
Here's my list of really bad Zeppelin songs, studio versions from the original albums:
You Shook MeLemon SongLiving Loving MaidTea For OneHot DogWalter's WalkWearing and TearingBonzo's Montreux
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 2 December 2021 13:57 (two years ago) link
I like "Wearing and Tearing." The rest of those are pretty generic or otherwise pro forma or annoying, relatively speaking.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 December 2021 14:04 (two years ago) link
yes on "The Lemon Song."
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 December 2021 14:05 (two years ago) link
"Hats Off" might be their all-time worst.
One of my favourites!!
― Enjoy the brighter sounds of Analog on CD (stevie), Thursday, 2 December 2021 14:18 (two years ago) link
yay!
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 December 2021 14:34 (two years ago) link
“tea for one”? are you shitting me
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 December 2021 14:35 (two years ago) link
people who hate “tea for one” should have their opinions removed
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 December 2021 14:36 (two years ago) link
Presence is such a weird one for me. Asides from Nobody's Fault and Achilles I honestly can't remember what any of these songs sound like, and I've listened to this album hundreds of times. I know one of them has the "co-ca-co-ca-cocaine" chorus, but with a gun to my head I couldn't tell you which one. I remember like Royal Orleans a lot as a kid, but again, I could not hum it to you now for the life of me. And the slow one is just interminable. DON'T DO DRUGS, KIDS. Out Door is a better album.
― Enjoy the brighter sounds of Analog on CD (stevie), Thursday, 2 December 2021 14:46 (two years ago) link
^ low grade challops
― calstars, Thursday, 2 December 2021 14:47 (two years ago) link
I often have trouble remembering the other tracks not "Hots On for Nowhere," "Tea For One," and "Achilles..." So I suppose ITTOD is the superior album. Which shows how meaningless memory is.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 December 2021 14:48 (two years ago) link
"Tea For One" has a great intro and then collapses into a low-grade revamp of "Since I've Been Loving You". As a song and a sentiment of despair it might be fine, as a performance it is a real let-down.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 2 December 2021 15:26 (two years ago) link
Needs more bass drum pedal squeak.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 2 December 2021 15:28 (two years ago) link
...plus they're ripping off Irving Berlin.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 2 December 2021 15:30 (two years ago) link
They improve on "Since..." imo.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 December 2021 15:37 (two years ago) link
Not hard to do imo
― Enjoy the brighter sounds of Analog on CD (stevie), Thursday, 2 December 2021 15:40 (two years ago) link
And I don't know if I agree - Since has peaks that are sort of worth the ascent, the misery of Tea For One just sort of pools in an ungainly fashion, meant only for wallowing
― Enjoy the brighter sounds of Analog on CD (stevie), Thursday, 2 December 2021 15:41 (two years ago) link
Our Marcello wrote one of the sharper reappraisals.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 December 2021 15:47 (two years ago) link
I like "Presence," but I feel like it should have been named "More!" Like, you spend all your time with Led Zeppelin, all those great songs that you've heard so many times in so many places, and then you hit a lull, take a breather, and bam - but wait, there's "More!" Like an entire album of deep cuts, for the real heads.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 December 2021 15:52 (two years ago) link
Correction, he didn't write "Tea For Two"! I meant Randy California.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 2 December 2021 15:53 (two years ago) link
Presence ...an entire album of deep cuts, for the real heads.
I met a woman who had all the Zeppelin CDs except for this. When I said, "Oh, you don't have Presence, she hadn't even heard of it.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 2 December 2021 16:11 (two years ago) link
Like an entire album of deep cuts, for the real heads.
This is such a '76 thing: you could say the same about The Royal Scam, Tejas, or Black and Blue.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 2 December 2021 16:16 (two years ago) link
xp
Why "Presence" figures so largely in my Zeppelin love is because I found out about it after I was sure that I had purchased their entire catalogue, including Coda. I was a kid who obsessed over Zeppelin, so when I stumbled across it in a music store, i thought it was some type of obscene joke.― J. Grizzle (trainsmoke), Wednesday, August 9, 2006
― J. Grizzle (trainsmoke), Wednesday, August 9, 2006
― Kim Kimberly, Thursday, 2 December 2021 16:17 (two years ago) link
Marcello's piece is great, and makes me want to listen to all of Presence again, when usually I oly want to hear Achilles and Fault
― Enjoy the brighter sounds of Analog on CD (stevie), Thursday, 2 December 2021 16:18 (two years ago) link
Crazy talk! Zep at its most fonky.
― dinnerboat, Thursday, 2 December 2021 16:23 (two years ago) link
The first time I really heard LZ (other than classic rock radio in the car) was when my friend gave me a tape with "IV" on one side and "Presence" on the other, I had no real frame of reference for the band or even an idea of when the albums came out or what the album covers looked like, I probably owned like ten cassettes total at that point, so to me "Presence" was always just a LZ record and I loved it.
Obv as an adult I'm like "what a weird entry point" and I understand why it doesn't have the same standing in their catalog as other records, but deep down to me it is an unimpeachable classic.
― chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 2 December 2021 16:34 (two years ago) link
The long-gone online reviewer Capn Marvel had one of my all-time favourite lines in his review of Presence:
these guys were trying to keep afloat amidst punk rock? They sound like they all weigh 400 pounds and eat gold dubloons for breakfast.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 2 December 2021 18:44 (two years ago) link
that's praise, right?
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 December 2021 19:04 (two years ago) link
man, "walter's walk" is what you put on when you wanna hear how mean that band could be but not be reminded of shitty classic rock radio… and I think "Hot's on" and "royal Orleans" are where you hear how much they liked the Meters…
― veronica moser, Thursday, 2 December 2021 19:47 (two years ago) link
Jeez, CapnMarvel, that’s a name I haven’t heard in 20 years. He was great!
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 2 December 2021 20:33 (two years ago) link
Could have put this on the obituary thread but fuck giving this repulsive creep any kind of respect.
https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/1530552/Richard-Cole-dead-death-Led-Zeppelin-tour-manager-Robert-Plant-instagram-tribute-news
― When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 December 2021 21:34 (two years ago) link
His own Zeppelin book is one of the most repulsive things I've ever read. I don't think I got more than a quarter of the way in.
― Enjoy the brighter sounds of Analog on CD (stevie), Friday, 3 December 2021 09:50 (two years ago) link
Speaking of, new bio out.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 December 2021 10:34 (two years ago) link
Calling that an "obituary" is giving it a bit too much credit. It's roughly two sentences on the man's life followed by this:
_sha_nizzle typed: “Very sorry to read this..
“May he rest in peace.”
groupieplant added: “It can't be!
“I do not believe."
_bella_jenn_ said: “Condolences for your loss. R.I.P. Richard”
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 3 December 2021 13:04 (two years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/o2LxA5w.jpgAlways blastin’ HotH
― calstars, Saturday, 4 December 2021 19:56 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVWmI69wu44
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 27 May 2022 14:24 (two years ago) link
facial hair experiment phase
― calstars, Friday, 27 May 2022 15:09 (two years ago) link
https://www.loudersound.com/news/led-zeppelin-fans-are-losing-their-minds-over-this-new-footage-of-a-legendary-1970-gig
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 27 May 2022 16:29 (two years ago) link
first I've heard of the 'becoming LZ' documentary
― calstars, Friday, 27 May 2022 17:21 (two years ago) link
It's a shame they didn't stick with the Cavalier and Master Dahlia Gardener look. I hope Page is wearing rain boots.
― bendy, Sunday, 29 May 2022 20:16 (two years ago) link
“Just goin out in mah wellies for a wee bit of tendin’ to the old flower patch it is, then playing with the band around 1700”
― calstars, Sunday, 29 May 2022 20:23 (two years ago) link
I read that Page somehow never saw Hendrix perform live. Part of me thinks that’s plausible — certain things just never aligned schedule/timing-wise — and part of me thinks that, with his arrogance, Page purposely avoided the guitarist that shocked and stunned all of his contemporaries into reevaluating their approaches.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 29 May 2022 20:36 (two years ago) link
Between the radio and being a professional musician I imagine it was impossible for page to avoid hearing Hendrix in the late 60s
― calstars, Sunday, 29 May 2022 20:44 (two years ago) link
Oh, I’m sure Page heard Hendrix on records and/or radio. But all of his musician peers (not limited to guitarists) saw him live. I can easily imagine Page wanting to sidestep an (ahem) experience so overwhelming as to make him possibly question his abilities.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 29 May 2022 21:52 (two years ago) link
Lemmy used to claim that early Hendrix UK shows were performed with a foot of water in front of the stage because all the preeminent guitar players came down to see him and cried through the whole set knowing they'd never be that good.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 29 May 2022 22:02 (two years ago) link