Spotify - anyone heard of it?

me

Another year past, another year Spotify Hifi streaming fails to appear

How “hifi” is it supposed to be? Like Tidal?

Take your pick – Tidal, Amazon, Qobuz. Spotify Premium tops out at a measly 320kbit/s. There’s no reason to subscribe if bitrate is important to you.

(YT Music is even worse at 256, and it sounds accordingly shitty)

Don't want to start any bitrate wars but don't you need a top end system or amazing hearing or something to tell the difference between 320 and say flac or whatever?

I don’t know if my hearing’s amazing, but I’ve tried out all the above using cheapy BT headphones and can def tell the difference (I actively use YT Music and Amazon Music HD, and it’s night & day).

(granted, 320 isn’t 256. and there is added cost vs. Spotify with some of those HD services, but not Amazon or Apple)

One thing I did notice when had both Apple Music and Spotify subscriptions is that Apple’s AAC sounded very different (better, tbh) than Spotify’s top rate.

I've done tests on the good hifi system, swapping between the same tracks on CD and Spotify Premium through a Bluetooth DAC. The CD versions sound very slightly better if you listen closely, but there's not much in it.

i can't tell at all on my hifi gear. look up some "abx" tests with real time switching to get a good idea if it matters to your ears.

Don't want to start any bitrate wars but don't you need a top end system or amazing hearing or something to tell the difference between 320 and say flac or whatever?

― groovypanda, Sunday, December 26, 2021 1:28 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yes and I have all those things

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RfGe6MvY84

it’s kind of amazing to me that in 2021 when music streaming is essentially a commodity service, each service is…. ripping its own files? really?

I thought I recall reading on this thread that record companies supply the rips

Wanna know the rest? Hey, buy the rips.

Distributors supply the original audio files, but each service then creates its own encoded versions...

Last night, I was supplying the rips.

Last night I dreamt I went to Spotify again.

Lol

seems like yer gettin' a lil confused, friend.

https://i.imgur.com/wQ2dtSS.jpg

i am an american overweight lover

Yes, we were all waiting for this!

https://www.engadget.com/spotify-call-to-action-cards-podcast-ads-160009589.html

Are there a lot of people looking at the audio podcast playing on their phone? Just watching the seconds on Marc Maron's intro passing by?

No but if the trusted voice in their ear says they can tap a link to go straight to the thing that's being talked about that's a pretty powerful traffic driver

I've yet to encounter a single person (except for maybe a Rogan fan in the wild) who even likes Spotify as a podcast platform. I've dropped some Gimlet shows I really like (Science VS and Every Little Thing) from my routine simply because they became Spotify-exclusive. I will not use Spotify for podcasts and I hope this whole power grab blows up in their faces.

Same

It saves people having to use a different app for their music and their podcasts, is the main thing

That's all well and good, but to prevent podcasts from being freely available on whichever apps the user prefers, which has been the law of the podcast land for as long as podcasts have been around, is infuriating.

I started using it asa mainly podcast platform because i had it. I got it because of teh radio show I was doing thanks to a government scheme I was on a few years ago.
It has some major problems and I don't have a comparison referent for it. So not looked at what else is out there.
i tend to listen to each podcast interspersed with a music track which I like.
& I do listen to it a lot and get frustrated by negative quirks it has a lot pretty much daily.
So I dunno. it does work when it works.

sometimes i get so frustrated with the propaganda bullshit that spotify is trying to regurgitate on me that i just uninstall it for a few days because fuck that noise.

"podcasts from being freely available on whichever apps the user prefers, which has been the law of the podcast land for as long as podcasts have been around, is infuriating."

TBF there are very few of these exclusives. The overwhelming majority of podcasts are available on all platforms. I imagine most of the ones you care about are?

But certainly you should expect to see a handful of high profile corporate-owned podcasts go behind paywalls or become exclusive to a platform. It's one of the only levers Spotify and others have to pull to entice people to come to their service and stay. The music catalogues are all pretty similar and everything's on YouTube anyway.

What's interesting about the current moment in podcasting to me is that going exclusive to a platform will pretty much always involve a hit to listening figures, and hence to ad revenue. Rogan's listenership is down because he's only on Spotify. But this will also be true of any exclusive. If you're a podcast star and your monthly earnings are tied to your listenership you are going to need cash up front from the platform to make up for this loss. Or some other kind of compensation. How long will Spotify and others be willing to essentially bribe talent to be less famous?

And the related question: how long will talent be happy with that arrangement?

It has worked for Stern for many years.

Stern wasn’t on a vitamin grift though

Stern has a podcast? I thought he was on Sirius

Oh you mean the move to Sirius from terrestrial radio is analagous I guess? That’s true and yes he seems quite happy w it

Sorry yes, that’s what I meant. I never subscribed to Sirius/XM, and never really listened to St rn again. I’m sure there were lots like me, but the dumptruck of cash seemed to make up for it to him.

Yeah. I think that math is different for people “on the up” though.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MBVofficial/status/1484292521329106949


https://mobile.twitter.com/mrsimonraymonde/status/1484306180017061895

I believe Musixmatch provides those lyrics

for free?

Every sic has his day: https://www.stereogum.com/2173905/neil-young-spotify-joe-rogan-vaccine-misinformation/news/

you know what really annoys me kind of a lot? spotify doesn't show you the individual track lengths until you're playing a song. and even then you have to look at the detail screen. why is it so hard to just display that info on the main tracklist page? is there a setting or something that i can tweak for this?

On mobile? I get track lengths for playlists and albums on desktop.

yeah, mobile. i looked all around settings on desktop and mobile and i can't find anything that would indicate it's an option.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jan/27/word-salad-of-nonsense-scientists-denounce-jordan-petersons-comments-on-climate-models

rogan is into idiotic climate denialism too? great. i wish radiohead & some other high profile artists would follow neil young's lead.

That would make the tracklist page look cluttered I think. Prefer it without track lengths tbh.

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rogan is into idiotic climate denialism too? great. i wish radiohead & some other high profile artists would follow neil young's lead.

― for 200 anyone can receive a dud nvidia (ledge), Thursday, January 27, 2022 1:00 AM

he's a right wing mouthpiece of the worst variety imo. total dregs of society. would also love to see a mass exodus of significant acts following neil's example. unfortunately not likely.

there's also this

On Joe Rogan's Spotify podcast -- Jordan Peterson claims Michael Eric Dyson is "not Black"

Rogan replies: "Unless you are talking to someone who is like 100% African from the darkest place where they are not wearing any clothes all day ... the term Black is weird." pic.twitter.com/Wyk00WHwus

— Alex Paterson (@AlexPattyy) January 25, 2022