there's something off-putting about that interview and 0PN in general these days, can't quite put my finger on it but his music since GOD has betrayed it too. unsurprised that Charli has vibed with him just as she's taken a cowardly step back that she can't properly justify
― imago, Friday, 7 January 2022 09:29 (two years ago) link
still gonna wait for the album obv
― imago, Friday, 7 January 2022 09:30 (two years ago) link
wealth does terrible things to people and for all their talk of how they're so 'grounded' they and especially 0PN come off as a couple of rich dorks absolutely loving themselves
― imago, Friday, 7 January 2022 09:31 (two years ago) link
yeah i get what you mean, especially about 0PN. charli does seem to be managing her level of fame pretty well & for a rich celebrity that's what counts as 'grounded' lol.
i am hoping the album will be more exciting than the singles so far (based on the teaser clips) but i'm not expecting it to be great or anything. what it seems to come down to is that her instincts are much stronger for the more out there production & she's unfortunately not actually very good at playing by or compromising with the major label pop rules when she tries to.
― ufo, Friday, 7 January 2022 10:23 (two years ago) link
we will always, always have 'how i'm feeling now'
― imago, Friday, 7 January 2022 10:47 (two years ago) link
so we're getting another "Charli" and then we'll get another wacky one!
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 7 January 2022 13:00 (two years ago) link
i've been caning "gone" lately. chris is next-level on that track.
― Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Friday, 7 January 2022 14:24 (two years ago) link
Good Ones has grown on me a lot over since being on the fence to begin with. My only problem with it is the same as a lot of music at the moment, which is that it's too short. At least put out an extended mix.
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 9 January 2022 03:01 (two years ago) link
Lopatin agrees, noting that what is subversive changes in step with the musical landscape and one’s own artistic canon. “Experimental isn’t a sound or difficulty level attributed to comprehending some piece of art,” he says. “It’s an attitude of bravery in the face of market-generating clichés from captured old braveries.”
― i woke up alarmed (morrisp), Sunday, 9 January 2022 03:20 (two years ago) link
That interview was really cringey and self-congratulatory (without even getting into the vitamin shots). You’re not supposed to say you see being a pop star as an “art piece,” IMO… that’s something you (hope) supportive critics say about you.
― i woke up alarmed (morrisp), Sunday, 9 January 2022 03:44 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OhqYJyZcvM
still a little slight but more compelling than the other two
― ufo, Thursday, 27 January 2022 21:11 (two years ago) link
as someone who loves both UK garage and "Cry For You" I have to say this is a bit underwhelming
― boxedjoy, Thursday, 27 January 2022 22:59 (two years ago) link
in a way it's nice this isn't another 80s synthpop pastiche. we've advanced a whole decade!
it is still not what i want from charli xcx and i suspect i'm not alone here
― imago, Thursday, 27 January 2022 23:28 (two years ago) link
yeah it's not what i want either & nor is it great on its own merits but i like it more than the other two
― ufo, Thursday, 27 January 2022 23:37 (two years ago) link
well yeah, it's a more interesting thing to pastiche lol
― imago, Thursday, 27 January 2022 23:40 (two years ago) link
The chorus sounds like like another song, I can't place it...
― Animals must have a name (morrisp), Thursday, 27 January 2022 23:57 (two years ago) link
september - "cry for you", it's a direct sample
― ufo, Thursday, 27 January 2022 23:58 (two years ago) link
thx, i see (I've only heard that song in retail stores or whatever, didn't know artist or title)
that's basically the heart of the track, so...
― Animals must have a name (morrisp), Friday, 28 January 2022 00:05 (two years ago) link
https://www.twitter.com/gothjafar/status/1488309758545346560
― imago, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 11:00 (two years ago) link
That didn't embed properly
you already have a platform just make the fucking music? am i crazy https://t.co/Gz97QZxsVQ— ༺𝒢𐀔𝒥༻ (@gothjafar) February 1, 2022
Charli acting like a bit of a diva here tbh, and not in a yasss way
― imago, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 11:01 (two years ago) link
well she did go thru a pile of shit over the album she scrapped, supposedly too avant. and then Pop 2 was her all time greatest for me. But HIFN was pleasingly out there, so … ?
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 12:10 (two years ago) link
HIFN is her defining statement so far imo
― imago, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 12:20 (two years ago) link
is she just trying to become as big as possible on this last atlantic deal record to strengthen her hand in any new contract negotiation?
― devvvine, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 13:22 (two years ago) link
which i kind of get but im not sure making boring music is a great strategy to becoming a superstar
― devvvine, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 13:23 (two years ago) link
Plenty of basics think her new singles are bangers tbf
― imago, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 13:24 (two years ago) link
AND WHO ARE WE TO ARGUE
― imago, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 13:25 (two years ago) link
Her reasoning in that tweet is nonsense though. If you wanna be a main pop girl just be one and don't try to justify it
― imago, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 13:31 (two years ago) link
All the singles sound pretty slight. When she said this was going to be a big pop album to satisfy her label, I (as a basic) was hoping that we'd be getting a return to the era of Boom Clap, I Love It, etc. But everything so far has been kinda sad and boring.
― peace, man, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 13:33 (two years ago) link
I assumed this album was going to be similar to the Charli era where she had obvious attempts at hits (1999, Blame It On Your Love and Gone) but then kept the weirder or more avant garde music (as Charli puts it) for the album. I ended up really loving Good Ones, but these two last singles have been her weakest in a long time. New Shapes is so flat and underwhelming considering the talent involved. I'm still looking forward to the album as she hasn't really missed yet (sorry Charli, Sucker is great) but compared to the last few albums, my enthusiasm isn't on the same level.
― kitchen person, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 14:41 (two years ago) link
charli's "please help me game the system" schtick is a bit offputting, especially hand in hand with the shift into tawny kitaen fashion as a fairly obvious stab at attention getting
― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 20:48 (two years ago) link
is she confused.... or iconic?
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 21:04 (two years ago) link
I know Charli isn’t in the boards good books right now, but I’ve quite enjoyed a lot about the recent singles, Baby in particular was one I knew I would like from the dlips posted months ago and almost lived up to my very high expectations. I’m a huge fan of stuff influenced by 80s pop so the stuff mining that period hits a sweet spot for me.
I saw the album has leaked now and it all hangs together well as a collection to me although maybe there’s a drop off towards the end. Of the new tracks Constant Repeat is maybe the most immediate new one on there and sounds like a potential future single. Lightning has a turbo-freestyle feel to it which I enjoyed. There’s maybe some overconfidence in stealing a lot from the Stonebridge remix of Robin S - Show Me Love on Used to Know Me which I don’t think quite pulls it off. Twice is a pleasant enough album closer, but I could do with something a little more daring at the end,
Overall, it’s a polished album and I’ll enjoy listening to it this year, but I’ll be hoping for more next time around.
― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 16 March 2022 14:17 (two years ago) link
I don’t care for the singles but I have tickets to the London gig and know it’s gonna be a fun time even if I don’t care for the new stuff. She’s always been hit & miss.
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 16 March 2022 18:54 (two years ago) link
I’m going to start backtracking, this album is worming itself deeper into my brain the more I listen to it.
― Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 17 March 2022 16:46 (two years ago) link
it's better than i expected from the lead-up, it's solid enough but still not really exciting or anything. at the very least "lightning" and the title track are quite cool
p4k claiming it's better than how i'm feeling now is totally ridiculous though lol
― ufo, Friday, 18 March 2022 02:52 (two years ago) link
but there's still the feeling of it being a bit slight overall and she should be largely capable of better, even if she wanted to make something more conventional. she very rarely gives the ideas room to breathe even when they're good ones - that's why "lightning" is the best track
― ufo, Friday, 18 March 2022 02:58 (two years ago) link
I’m a big fan of the classic ~30 minute pop album length and this nails that. I just wish the extended 12" mix of pop tracks would come back.
― Chewshabadoo, Friday, 18 March 2022 09:32 (two years ago) link
word
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 18 March 2022 09:35 (two years ago) link
i think that’s one reason i like “rock Charli” - the songs feel loosey-goosey
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 18 March 2022 09:36 (two years ago) link
I wanted to play Baby on my radio show but needed to take the fucks out, so I did do a quick and dirty re-edit and ended up extending it a bit. It’s starts around the 1 hour 33 minute mark if anyone is interested: https://soundcloud.com/1btn/inter-mission-11032022 (warning I had a couple too many beers before the show and you can tell). I would like to try and get into the habit of making some 80s style extended mixes of current pop tracks.
― Chewshabadoo, Friday, 18 March 2022 09:40 (two years ago) link
need to confirm you introduced it with "it's Charli, Baby"?
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 18 March 2022 10:46 (two years ago) link
Lot going on here for a short album. Nice.
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 18 March 2022 11:11 (two years ago) link
xp when you made that joke I was immediately reminded of how forlorn and emotional Pop 2 is, what a record. “Track 10” feels like the last message from a doomed human race if I play it late at night. It’s woven into such a specific time with my daughters, will always be my favourite.
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 18 March 2022 12:11 (two years ago) link
Maffew12 I definitely missed a trick there.
― Chewshabadoo, Friday, 18 March 2022 13:24 (two years ago) link
Definitely more enjoyable in the album sequence than as a bunch of pre-release singles.
― peace, man, Friday, 18 March 2022 14:59 (two years ago) link
Favorites are Constant Repeat and the juxtaposition of Every Rule and Yuck.
― peace, man, Friday, 18 March 2022 16:11 (two years ago) link
Oh besides the new Rosalia, I also surprisingly like this one more than I anticipated.
Wait, why am I suddenly agreeing with p4k scores? I need to take a step back.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 18 March 2022 18:03 (two years ago) link
This album is in isolation fine. Its major flaw is HIFN's existence
― imago, Saturday, 19 March 2022 13:45 (two years ago) link
It is perhaps SLIGHTLY better than I feared it'd be
― imago, Saturday, 19 March 2022 13:46 (two years ago) link