Could end up costing Neil literally hundreds of dollars in streaming royalties
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 26 January 2022 22:06 (two years ago) link
..over the next thirty years.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 26 January 2022 22:06 (two years ago) link
before taxes.
― get shrunk by this funk. (Austin), Wednesday, 26 January 2022 22:11 (two years ago) link
Robert Christgau put Barn at the very top of his Dean's List (though he says he would score the entire top ten an even ten points apiece):
"I ranked Barn first because self-righteous ‘60s idealism, while always overstated by young wannabes and overrated by old farts, might be of real practical use with fascism on the rise. So in a year when ‘60s totems Eric Clapton, damn right overrated and no one’s idea of a clear thinker either, and Van Morrison, more God-touched but an even bigger crank, began spewing anti-vax/lockdown/government rot, Young’s return to the political and ecological themes of ‘00s releases Greendale, Living With War, and Fork in the Road was an up that touched me deep."
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 22:16 (two years ago) link
i didn't think barn was that special, but he makes a good point for his rating it so highly. like, "hey they haven't all gone crazy. see???"
― get shrunk by this funk. (Austin), Wednesday, 26 January 2022 22:26 (two years ago) link
aged music act building a barn in the mountains to record an album screams "has this artist gone crazy?"
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 27 January 2022 00:38 (two years ago) link
Studio in the Clouds is in a converted barn but it's a working music studio owned by someone else, Neil just booked time therehttps://musicgardens.org/
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 January 2022 00:43 (two years ago) link
looks like Dierks Bentley records there a lot
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 January 2022 00:45 (two years ago) link
xp
my mistake, it's a restored barn from the 1850s. it's located at that studio then, i take it?
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 27 January 2022 01:12 (two years ago) link
But that's normal for Neil.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 27 January 2022 01:20 (two years ago) link
100% not under dispute
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 27 January 2022 01:22 (two years ago) link
it's just a studio that anyone can book time at, Neil doesn't have anything to do with it as far as I can tell
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 January 2022 01:23 (two years ago) link
the building was originally a barn
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 January 2022 01:24 (two years ago) link
i quite like the idea of an aging folky recording in a barn.
― get shrunk by this funk. (Austin), Thursday, 27 January 2022 01:53 (two years ago) link
Just five guys standing around some bales of hay
― calstars, Thursday, 27 January 2022 01:58 (two years ago) link
exactly! like a literal farmer's barn.
"but neil, the acoustics are terrible in there."
"we'll make it work!"
― get shrunk by this funk. (Austin), Thursday, 27 January 2022 02:00 (two years ago) link
If Neil says it can work, never doubt Neil:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU0TWE0Le7Q
― birdistheword, Thursday, 27 January 2022 02:02 (two years ago) link
Xgau's making it No. 1 for topical backstory and references in mostly mumblecore lyrics, not the mostly okay music: pretty typical of his grading for the past few years. Does give Rust Bucket an A minus, but the rambling, kinda meh-ish review doesn't indicate why (except he found out about clitoral vibrators because "Bite The Bullet")
― dow, Thursday, 27 January 2022 02:18 (two years ago) link
I gave the album more than a few listens in early December, and, well, sorry. But we've all been guilty of anointing an album whose extraordinary qualities only register to you (Kelela and Robert Wyatt for me in the last 15 years).
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 January 2022 02:22 (two years ago) link
yeah, but this isn't his vision of Neil's vision, it's his topical overrating , while not indicating anything about how he hears the music, which still seems like some nice ones for the playlist, and that's about it.
― dow, Thursday, 27 January 2022 02:26 (two years ago) link
Which Robert Wyatt album only registered to you?? Hard to imagine, since there are quite a few of us RW diehards on ILM!
― dow, Thursday, 27 January 2022 02:29 (two years ago) link
2007's Comicopera.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 January 2022 02:33 (two years ago) link
Oh I don't care for the #1 at all and he hasn't swayed me in years, though he's correct about the Sullivan album.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 January 2022 02:35 (two years ago) link
my friend made a one LP edit of Colorado/Barnhttps://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrdw450H4NIRhygy6oz17O1-90T6EnV3qI really like this tracklist
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 January 2022 02:35 (two years ago) link
definitely gonna check that out. thanks for sharing!
― get shrunk by this funk. (Austin), Thursday, 27 January 2022 02:47 (two years ago) link
Yeah! Maybe Neil should have done the same.Alfred---you are not alone (re Comicopera, anyway).
― dow, Thursday, 27 January 2022 03:14 (two years ago) link
Pandora is already doing ads boasting that they still have Neil.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 27 January 2022 03:21 (two years ago) link
Comicopera fucking rules, who the hell ever talked shit about that record here? madness. one of his best, Alfred otm.
― bad milk blood robot (sleeve), Thursday, 27 January 2022 06:27 (two years ago) link
Yeah, we were pretty positive about it on Robert Wyatt: Classic or Dud?
Well, he's gone. "Thank you Warner Brothers for taking the hit for me. 60 per cent of my streaming revenue worldwide comes from Spotify."https://neilyoungarchives.com/news/1/article?id=Spotify-In-The-Name-Of-Truth
― dow, Thursday, 27 January 2022 17:24 (two years ago) link
that's weird. I just checked to see if there was anything still up on spotify and there is still a live set from 1989.Wonder what the loophole was.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 27 January 2022 21:48 (two years ago) link
It's probably one of those quasi-bootleg radio simulcast things he doesn't have the rights to.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 27 January 2022 22:23 (two years ago) link
Fwiw all I see on Spotify this afternoon is "Journey Through the Past" from the Inherent Vice soundtrack, his two songs from Dylan's 30th anniversary concert, a demo version of "Birds" from a CSNY reissue, two songs from his 1985 Live Aid performance and the song he did with DRAM for a Netflix movie soundtrack.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 27 January 2022 22:28 (two years ago) link
I bumped the Best Show thread for this too, but Scharpling is following Neil's lead and yanked The Best Show from Spotify.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 27 January 2022 23:19 (two years ago) link
Good for him. I saw a few small labels & tastemaker types who do curated playlists announce theyll stop doing so today too. I have zero expectation that any of this will affect any change at Spotify due to the amount that theyre invested in Rogan & his audience, but it's still nice to see people putting their money where their mouth is.
My small hope is just that the conversation around this could at least potentially remind people that Spotify is one service that you can choose to use or choose not to use, rather than thinking of it as synonymous with "music", which is how a lot of people seem to think of it ime.
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 28 January 2022 02:19 (two years ago) link
I actually had a "best of" playlist going for latter day Neil Young tracks, sort of a Decade IV, V & VI. Even though the actual music is gone, the selections are still there, just greyed out.
― birdistheword, Friday, 28 January 2022 04:12 (two years ago) link
Lefsetz shared emails from a bunch of people cancelling their accounts as well.
― deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Friday, 28 January 2022 04:21 (two years ago) link
Meanwhile our very own Spotify thread still mostly consists of subscribers complaining about bugs and minor inconveniences to do with changes to the interface
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 28 January 2022 10:10 (two years ago) link
ILM Best of 2021: Pandora edition
― deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Friday, 28 January 2022 16:10 (two years ago) link
I really like Qobuz doesn't get a lot of attention but it sounds better and has some good editorial
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 28 January 2022 16:12 (two years ago) link
Qobuz isn't available in Canada so I went with Tidal, which is so similar to Spotify interface-wise and is the same price but streams lossless that there really isn't much of an argument to not switch
― rob, Friday, 28 January 2022 16:17 (two years ago) link
how do the catalogs compare for Qobuz and Tidal w/ Spotify?
― they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Friday, 28 January 2022 16:32 (two years ago) link
If you already pay for Amazon Prime, Amazon Music HD costs 8 bucks and sounds awesome (which makes up for the crappy UI).
― Animals must have a name (morrisp), Friday, 28 January 2022 16:33 (two years ago) link
I have Amazon Music and agree. mostly because there are small gaps between Amazon and Spotify, things one will have that the other won't.
the interface does suck ass though I agree.
― they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Friday, 28 January 2022 16:34 (two years ago) link
Are Tidal and Qobuz as easy to embed as Spotify? When I'm writing an article online, I can embed the Spotify version of an album or a track right into the middle of the piece. Can I do that with these other streaming services?
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 28 January 2022 16:53 (two years ago) link
https://embed.tidal.com/#/ should help
― Dan Worsley, Friday, 28 January 2022 17:04 (two years ago) link
Barn and Rust Bucket sounded fine to me on free YouTube, as do most other things.
― dow, Friday, 28 January 2022 17:10 (two years ago) link
Likewise the version of Amazon Music incl. w Prime, haven't tried HD.
― dow, Friday, 28 January 2022 17:12 (two years ago) link
I feel like there can be some gaps in Qobuz, mostly with newer pop/hip hop stuff. though it's European (French I think) so sometimes there are things that aren't on Spotify that are on Qobuz.
Not sure about embedding, though my gut says it's maybe not possible or wouldn't' be as good as Spotify. It's more hi-rez music focused, I don't even think they have podcasts.
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 28 January 2022 17:24 (two years ago) link
I had Tidal for a while on a 3-month deal at I liked it. I'm a little skeptical of their "MQA" encoding which feels bullshitty to me, Qobuz is just straight FLAC.
At the time, Qobuz was cheaper than Tidal hi-rez but I think Tidal lowered their prices since.
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 28 January 2022 17:26 (two years ago) link
I'm part-way through a month's free-trial of Qobuz and I like the interface/liner notes/editorial. The catalogue seems to be just as deep as Spotify and their artists' payments are supposedly 8-10x higher? Though I know that's a variable thing and there are different figures from different sources.
I'm not convinced I can reliably tell the difference between 320k-OGG and 16/44.1k-FLAC but, if you've got the bandwidth for the latter, why not? Hi-res isn't a major consideration, it's mostly nonsense. Without a native Qobuz app on my Marantz, I'm limited to 16/44.1k ALAC AirPlay anyway, unless I use a third-party uPnP app like mConnect; over WiFi it flakes out above 24/48k, over wired 24/96k is the limit. But whatever - that's a lot of bandwidth for stuff my tweeters can't reproduce, I can't hear and which is -100dB down.
But the big disincentive to switch is it's not just me; my partner, ex and our daughters are on this plan. I'm not going to be able to convince them. That's a whole lot of playlists to leave behind (or somehow copy over?). And... I do like a few podcasts, just obviously not *that* one.
― Michael Jones, Friday, 28 January 2022 17:45 (two years ago) link