neil young

Just five guys standing around some bales of hay

exactly! like a literal farmer's barn.

"but neil, the acoustics are terrible in there."

"we'll make it work!"

If Neil says it can work, never doubt Neil:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU0TWE0Le7Q

Xgau's making it No. 1 for topical backstory and references in mostly mumblecore lyrics, not the mostly okay music: pretty typical of his grading for the past few years. Does give Rust Bucket an A minus, but the rambling, kinda meh-ish review doesn't indicate why (except he found out about clitoral vibrators because "Bite The Bullet")

I gave the album more than a few listens in early December, and, well, sorry. But we've all been guilty of anointing an album whose extraordinary qualities only register to you (Kelela and Robert Wyatt for me in the last 15 years).

yeah, but this isn't his vision of Neil's vision, it's his topical overrating , while not indicating anything about how he hears the music, which still seems like some nice ones for the playlist, and that's about it.

Which Robert Wyatt album only registered to you?? Hard to imagine, since there are quite a few of us RW diehards on ILM!

2007's Comicopera.

Oh I don't care for the #1 at all and he hasn't swayed me in years, though he's correct about the Sullivan album.

my friend made a one LP edit of Colorado/Barn

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrdw450H4NIRhygy6oz17O1-90T6EnV3q

I really like this tracklist

definitely gonna check that out. thanks for sharing!

Yeah! Maybe Neil should have done the same.
Alfred---you are not alone (re Comicopera, anyway).

Pandora is already doing ads boasting that they still have Neil.

Comicopera fucking rules, who the hell ever talked shit about that record here? madness. one of his best, Alfred otm.

Yeah, we were pretty positive about it on Robert Wyatt: Classic or Dud?

Well, he's gone. "Thank you Warner Brothers for taking the hit for me. 60 per cent of my streaming revenue worldwide comes from Spotify."
https://neilyoungarchives.com/news/1/article?id=Spotify-In-The-Name-Of-Truth

that's weird. I just checked to see if there was anything still up on spotify and there is still a live set from 1989.Wonder what the loophole was.

It's probably one of those quasi-bootleg radio simulcast things he doesn't have the rights to.

Fwiw all I see on Spotify this afternoon is "Journey Through the Past" from the Inherent Vice soundtrack, his two songs from Dylan's 30th anniversary concert, a demo version of "Birds" from a CSNY reissue, two songs from his 1985 Live Aid performance and the song he did with DRAM for a Netflix movie soundtrack.

I bumped the Best Show thread for this too, but Scharpling is following Neil's lead and yanked The Best Show from Spotify.

Good for him. I saw a few small labels & tastemaker types who do curated playlists announce theyll stop doing so today too. I have zero expectation that any of this will affect any change at Spotify due to the amount that theyre invested in Rogan & his audience, but it's still nice to see people putting their money where their mouth is.

My small hope is just that the conversation around this could at least potentially remind people that Spotify is one service that you can choose to use or choose not to use, rather than thinking of it as synonymous with "music", which is how a lot of people seem to think of it ime.

I actually had a "best of" playlist going for latter day Neil Young tracks, sort of a Decade IV, V & VI. Even though the actual music is gone, the selections are still there, just greyed out.

Lefsetz shared emails from a bunch of people cancelling their accounts as well.

Meanwhile our very own Spotify thread still mostly consists of subscribers complaining about bugs and minor inconveniences to do with changes to the interface

ILM Best of 2021: Pandora edition

I really like Qobuz doesn't get a lot of attention but it sounds better and has some good editorial

Qobuz isn't available in Canada so I went with Tidal, which is so similar to Spotify interface-wise and is the same price but streams lossless that there really isn't much of an argument to not switch

how do the catalogs compare for Qobuz and Tidal w/ Spotify?

If you already pay for Amazon Prime, Amazon Music HD costs 8 bucks and sounds awesome (which makes up for the crappy UI).

I have Amazon Music and agree. mostly because there are small gaps between Amazon and Spotify, things one will have that the other won't.

the interface does suck ass though I agree.

Are Tidal and Qobuz as easy to embed as Spotify? When I'm writing an article online, I can embed the Spotify version of an album or a track right into the middle of the piece. Can I do that with these other streaming services?

https://embed.tidal.com/#/ should help

Barn and Rust Bucket sounded fine to me on free YouTube, as do most other things.

Likewise the version of Amazon Music incl. w Prime, haven't tried HD.

I feel like there can be some gaps in Qobuz, mostly with newer pop/hip hop stuff. though it's European (French I think) so sometimes there are things that aren't on Spotify that are on Qobuz.

Not sure about embedding, though my gut says it's maybe not possible or wouldn't' be as good as Spotify. It's more hi-rez music focused, I don't even think they have podcasts.

I had Tidal for a while on a 3-month deal at I liked it. I'm a little skeptical of their "MQA" encoding which feels bullshitty to me, Qobuz is just straight FLAC.

At the time, Qobuz was cheaper than Tidal hi-rez but I think Tidal lowered their prices since.

I'm part-way through a month's free-trial of Qobuz and I like the interface/liner notes/editorial. The catalogue seems to be just as deep as Spotify and their artists' payments are supposedly 8-10x higher? Though I know that's a variable thing and there are different figures from different sources.

I'm not convinced I can reliably tell the difference between 320k-OGG and 16/44.1k-FLAC but, if you've got the bandwidth for the latter, why not? Hi-res isn't a major consideration, it's mostly nonsense. Without a native Qobuz app on my Marantz, I'm limited to 16/44.1k ALAC AirPlay anyway, unless I use a third-party uPnP app like mConnect; over WiFi it flakes out above 24/48k, over wired 24/96k is the limit. But whatever - that's a lot of bandwidth for stuff my tweeters can't reproduce, I can't hear and which is -100dB down.

But the big disincentive to switch is it's not just me; my partner, ex and our daughters are on this plan. I'm not going to be able to convince them. That's a whole lot of playlists to leave behind (or somehow copy over?). And... I do like a few podcasts, just obviously not *that* one.

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Yeah I just do the Tidal hifi plan. I don't have anywhere near the right equipment for that master thing and it does have a snakeoil vibe

I have never embedded Tidal (or Spotify), but they do provide an Embed Code option in the Share menu.

how do the catalogs compare for Qobuz and Tidal w/ Spotify?

― they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal)

Hard to say, as I haven't actually used Spotify regularly in years (I switched from YoutubeMusic, which sucks ass, shoutout to morrisp for posting the bitrate differences on some other thread). I'm happy to check out some artists if anyone wants

I don't know if I'm hearing YouTube Music or Youtube---does the former have a freebie? I just search artist & title on Chrome, top left of results incl. "YouTube," so I choose that one, whichever it is. Sounds good on Koss non-audiophile over-earphones, Win 10 Dell desktop at library.

That's a whole lot of playlists to leave behind (or somehow copy over?).

I am using SongShift to move my playlists now from Spotify to Apple Music and so far I'm pleased with the matching results. Drawback is I'm using the free version, which is very slow (there is a premium price that supposedly does it fast).

if you're leaving Spotify because of Rogan I don't think YouTube is the place to go, YouTube is what made him

how come qobuz is 17/mo on mobile but 12/mo on a laptop?

maybe the devices are operating with different IPs and that's triggering some financial machinations

lol I pay $14 a month for Qobuz

Just to further stick it to Spotify, Neil Young should release all his music on physical media. That'll show them!

if you're leaving Spotify because of Rogan I don't think YouTube is the place to go, YouTube is what made him

I thought the point was that Spotify is paying him tons of $$ to be exclusive to their service, not simply making his podcast available.

holy shit qobuz sounds good. i have decent speakers, but this is blowing me away. i feel high

if you're leaving Spotify because of Rogan I don't think YouTube is the place to go, YouTube is what made him

I thought the point was that Spotify is paying him tons of $$ to be exclusive to their service, not simply making his podcast available.

― Animals must have a name (morrisp), Friday, January 28, 2022 12:41 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

just seems like if you are bad about Rogan spreading vaccine disinformation so you go to...YouTube?

Yeah Qobuz is like cleaning your glasses

I'm sure there's plenty of disnfo on YT (and books full of hate/disinfo sold on Amazon, etc.), which may reasons to avoid those platforms if one chooses, but it's not the issue Young and others are having w/Spotify as I understand it (i.e., Spotify is actively funding Rogan)

yeah I wish I knew more about audio encoding because I suspect reducing it to bitrate comparisons isn't telling the full story