Martha, My Dear: ILM's All-Time Video-Poll Results Thread

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I have an ongoing playlist on YT of my favorite music videos of all time here:

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTeVyV-FXsF93y3AyJh9lEJefAO6QCo7c

― kurt schwitterz

Aha - "Nolan Thomas - Yo' Little Brother"! I was trying so hard to remember the name of this one so I could vote for it, and there it is on your list. Was it even nommed?

I also feel robbed by the fact that this video was not part of childhood.

enochroot, Thursday, 17 March 2022 00:55 (two years ago) link

Maybe after the initial rollout, Clem or viborg could post some additional 'Bubbling Under' vids?

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 17 March 2022 01:50 (two years ago) link

"Yo Little Brother" is the best sequel to "Let the Music Play" possible.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 March 2022 01:55 (two years ago) link

(xpost) Just working on a list for #41-100 now. I was actually wrong--almost all the videos in the #41-60 range got 5 or 6 votes, just not as many points.

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 02:57 (two years ago) link

Our family had a well-worn recording of Friday Night Videos from 1984 that's burned into my brain and remains classic to this day. 'Yo Little Brother', 'Rockit', ZZ Top's 'TV Dinners', etc. It was largely weird and creepy stuff and I loved it so! I should poll those specific videos some other time.

Oh and naturally I forgot to vote in this poll. Drat.

I voted despite very provincial and scattershot knowledge — didn’t have cable growing up and still probably haven’t seen a lot of things that were ubiquitous; the first three Directors Label DVDs established canon for me (and I’m guessing will be well represented). I watched maybe 20 noms I hadn’t seen and did vote for a few of them, plus various faves old and new discovered mostly on YouTube.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 17 March 2022 06:50 (two years ago) link

Get this: my parents didn't get cable until 2000. Growing up, I depended on Friday Night Videos and my friends.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 March 2022 09:27 (two years ago) link

"Yo Little Brother" is the best sequel to "Let the Music Play" possible.

that would be “Give Me Tonight”, no need to look further

celebrating ten years of constant posting (breastcrawl), Thursday, 17 March 2022 12:00 (two years ago) link

“Yo’ Little Brother" is great fun tho, I’d never heard (of) it before

celebrating ten years of constant posting (breastcrawl), Thursday, 17 March 2022 12:01 (two years ago) link

Night Tracks on TBS was often more fun to watch than MTV in the '80s. They played much more dance music and black music. It came on at midnight Friday and Saturday nights and ran all night. I remember parties when we would just put that on and it was great entertainment.

Josefa, Thursday, 17 March 2022 12:39 (two years ago) link

that would be “Give Me Tonight”, no need to look further

― celebrating ten years of constant posting (breastcrawl)

I don't consider "Let The Music Play" and "Give Me Tonight" separate singles: same fabulous electrogroove.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 March 2022 12:50 (two years ago) link

Where does "Do You Wanna Get Away" fit in? I guess the groove is less electro and more straightforward, but there's still some freestyle elements.

Josefa, Thursday, 17 March 2022 12:59 (two years ago) link

"Do You..." is closer to period dance music.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 March 2022 13:45 (two years ago) link

It's definitely my least favorite of the three

Josefa, Thursday, 17 March 2022 13:48 (two years ago) link

yep, formula running down

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 March 2022 13:53 (two years ago) link

Shannon was so big in Miami that LTMP's third single earned airplay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSaOxK_kTKU

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 March 2022 13:54 (two years ago) link

I hope nobody minds this digression, but the Shannon talk reminds me that Miami had a freestyle station before the legendary Power 96, namely WHQT Hot 105. That was where you heard Shannon in 1985 (I was a high school listener). In about the summer of 1986 the two stations traded formats, with Power 96 assuming the freestyle sovereignty all the way to the end of the era.

Josefa, Thursday, 17 March 2022 14:02 (two years ago) link

I have some physio at 10:40, but I'll post the first couple before I leave--I'll pick up again around 11:30.

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 14:06 (two years ago) link

https://phildellio.tripod.com/video-40.jpg

40. “Jocko Homo,” Devo (1977)
56 points/6 votes
Director: Chuck Statler

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 14:07 (two years ago) link

Images were much harder for me this time than with previous polls I've done. Neil Young and Yo La Tengo were easy. The two film polls (discounting an early one, when I didn't put any thought into them), road films and political films, even when I hadn't seen something, I had a reasonably good sense of the film to pick something that worked. (I remember not having a clue about the John Landis film Into the Night--that was the rare exception.)

There are a lot of videos among these 40 I'd never seen before. And--I'll say stuff like this periodically, and it's never directed at people who voted for them--there are a number I don't like. So I'm sure with some of them, if it's a video you love, you won't care for the image; I'll have missed whatever it is that makes the video memorable for you. (I would skim those videos quickly, but I didn't have the patience to watch them all.)

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 14:11 (two years ago) link

i kinda dig that they're gonna be thumbnails with youtube UI included

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 March 2022 14:12 (two years ago) link

I hope nobody minds this digression, but the Shannon talk reminds me that Miami had a freestyle station before the legendary Power 96, namely WHQT Hot 105. That was where you heard Shannon in 1985 (I was a high school listener). In about the summer of 1986 the two stations traded formats, with Power 96 assuming the freestyle sovereignty all the way to the end of the era.

― Josefa,

Excellent post. Hot 105 exists as the adult R&B station; these days I occasionally tune in for the quiet storm show.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 March 2022 14:13 (two years ago) link

(xpost) That was something that looked good to me, and I figure 97% of video viewing now happens on YouTube anyway; the two have basically verged. (I have one Vimeo image for the one Björk video I couldn't get on YouTube here.)

And, of course, not cropping that stuff out was easier, and also keeps the original ratio there.

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 14:16 (two years ago) link

Verged = merged...

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 14:16 (two years ago) link

https://phildellio.tripod.com/video-39.jpg

39. “When I’m with You,” Sparks (1979)
57 points/4 votes/one #1 vote
Director: Brian Grant

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 14:18 (two years ago) link

Devo restoration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk1DNzg0LWs

billstevejim, Thursday, 17 March 2022 14:20 (two years ago) link

sorry i'm bad at remember how not to embed lol

billstevejim, Thursday, 17 March 2022 14:21 (two years ago) link

I suppose the first two define the earliest days of video--be as weird as possible. I very much doubt that Brian Grant and Chuck Statler, when they directed these, ever thought anyone would be looking up their names in 2022.

(Not a big Devo fan, but I did vote for "The Day My Baby Gave Me a Surprize," primarily because of how much I love the song.)

Back in an hour.

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 14:21 (two years ago) link

Ah, sorry I missed that--that version looks much cleaner. (The not-clean version does look more primitive, though, which is apropos.)

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 14:22 (two years ago) link

i hadn't seen either of these but they're fantastic, particularly the sparks video

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 March 2022 14:23 (two years ago) link

Damn, I meant to include non-embedded links in the info...I'll start doing that when I get back.

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 14:23 (two years ago) link

i didn't realize i'd seen the music video for "jocko homo," but now i'm realizing that i saw it as part of a short film called 'devo-lution,' which i saw during college at an ann arbor film festival. it's an incredible amount of fun, and the "jocko homo" part is definitely the highlight. would've voted for it if i'd known it was a free-standing video

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Thursday, 17 March 2022 14:33 (two years ago) link

Shannon was so big in Miami that LTMP's _third_ single earned airplay.

📹

there was also (and not just in Miami or the US) single number 4, “Sweet Somebody”, another fine one.

“Do You Wanna Get Away” is a different, much lesser beast, an attempt to update her sound for the follow-up album.


I hope nobody minds this digression, but the Shannon talk reminds me…


never apologize for Shannon talk!

celebrating ten years of constant posting (breastcrawl), Thursday, 17 March 2022 14:34 (two years ago) link

seeing Sparks tomorrow, never seen this before. thanks, Clemenza!

bulb after bulb, Thursday, 17 March 2022 14:39 (two years ago) link

"Jocko Homo" was one of the first videos I saw as a kid, probably on the pioneering CityTV program The New Music, which predated MTV. It's amazingly grotesque, even from the perspective of the 70s, but I prefer the faster album version of the song too much to vote for this version.
Though I'm a Sparks fan, I hadn't heard "When I'm With You" till this year. I voted for it just for Ron's smile.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 17 March 2022 14:45 (two years ago) link

I forgot about the Sparks ventriloquist video. It's a bummer how much 80s Russel Mael looks like Tucker Carlson.

Chris L, Thursday, 17 March 2022 14:47 (two years ago) link

Wow, I voted for both of these. I was the #1 vote for Sparks. A somewhat strategic boost!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Thursday, 17 March 2022 14:48 (two years ago) link

Interesting too that the countdown begins with two brother acts!

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 17 March 2022 14:59 (two years ago) link

First two placings suggest a really fun rollout, I'm here for this

Josefa, Thursday, 17 March 2022 15:05 (two years ago) link

That Devo doc containing the "Jocko Homo" video is, curiously/appropriately, included on the Criterion disc of Island of Lost Souls (1932).

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Thursday, 17 March 2022 15:06 (two years ago) link

i kinda like the slowed version of “jocko” from the video

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Thursday, 17 March 2022 15:06 (two years ago) link

https://phildellio.tripod.com/video-38.jpg

38. “Relax,” Frankie Goes to Hollywood (1983)
57 points/7 votes
Director: Bernard Rose

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yem_iEHiyJ0

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 15:16 (two years ago) link

One I do remember, and "Two Tribes." I like the long "Relax" sequence in De Palma's Body Double (pretty sure Holly Johnson appears).

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 15:18 (two years ago) link

xps also a voter for Jocko Homo, could have voted for all of those early Devo videos, arresting genius.

a partial Chuck Statler videography (he doesn't even have a Wikipedia entry, wth?):

1976 Devo: Jocko Homo (Music Video)
1976 Devo: The Truth About De-Evolution (Short)
1976 Devo: Secret Agent Man
1977 Suicide Commandos: Burn it Down
1978 Devo: (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction (Music Video)
1979 Devo: The Day My Baby Gave Me a Surprise (Music Video)
1979 Elvis Costello & The Attractions: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding (Music Video)
1979 Elvis Costello & The Attractions: Oliver's Army (Music Video)
1979 Madness: One Step Beyond (Music Video)
1979 Nick Lowe: Cruel to Be Kind (Music Video)
1980 Devo: Whip It
1980 Elvis Costello & The Attractions: High Fidelity (Music Video)
1980 Elvis Costello & The Attractions: I Can't Stand Up for Falling Down (Music Video)
1980 Elvis Costello & The Attractions: Love for Tender (Music Video)
1980 The Cars: Panorama (Music Video)
1980 The J. Geils Band: Love Stinks (Music Video)
1981 Devo: Beautiful World
1981 Devo: The Men Who Make the Music (Video)
1981 The Time: Cool (Music Video)
1983 Elvis Costello & The Attractions: Let Them All Talk (Music Video)

bulb after bulb, Thursday, 17 March 2022 15:21 (two years ago) link

fuck, why didn't i vote for "relax"

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 March 2022 15:22 (two years ago) link

why not link the videos?

beepy fridges (sic), Thursday, 17 March 2022 15:23 (two years ago) link

Get this: my parents didn't get cable until 2000. Growing up, I depended on Friday Night Videos and my friends.

Get this: I've never had cable.

beepy fridges (sic), Thursday, 17 March 2022 15:25 (two years ago) link

At least a half-dozen of those got votes.

I like the screenshots better--whatever polls I've done, the fun I have creating the images are really the main reason. You can click on the link easily enough if you want to watch the video.

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 15:26 (two years ago) link

https://phildellio.tripod.com/video-37.jpg

37. “Human Behaviour,” Björk (1993)
58 points/7 votes
Director: Michel Gondry

www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0mRIhK9seg

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 15:27 (two years ago) link

how many times do y'all think gondry will place on this poll

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 March 2022 15:28 (two years ago) link

My unranked ballot:

Tom Tom Club - Genius of Love
Yo La Tengo - I'll Be Around
A Tribe Called Quest - Electric Relaxation
Ann Steel - My Time
Aphex Twin - Come to Daddy
Autechre - Gantz Graf
Beck - Deadweight
Björk - Human Behaviour
Björk - Triumph of a Heart
Cabaret Voltaire - Sensoria
Carly Simon - Why
Chemical Brothers - Let Forever Be
Chemical Brothers - Star Guitar
Cibo Matto - Sugar Water

Cléo - Les Fauves
Cure - Close to Me
Daft Punk - Around the World
De La Soul - A Roller Skating Jam Named Saturdays
Deee-Lite - Groove Is in the Heart
Fall - Eat Y'Self Fitter
France Gall - Laisse tomber les filles
Kate Bush - Wuthering Heights (trees version)
Kate Bush - Wuthering Heights (trails version)
Kraftwerk - Musique Non-Stop
Kylie Minogue - Come Into My World
Lio - Sage Comme Une Image
Lucas - Lucas with the Lid Off
Madonna - Frozen
Mick Jagger - Memo from Turner
Moloko - The Flipside
Pet Shop Boys - Heart
Pet Shop Boys - West End Girls
Portishead - Only You
Roisin Murphy - Overpowered
Saint Etienne - Only Love Can Break Your Heart
Serge Gainsbourg & Jane Birkin - 69 année érotique
Serge Gainsbourg & Brigitte Bardot - Bonnie and Clyde
Siouxsie & the Banshees - Spellbound
Sparks - When Do I Get to Sing 'My Way’?
Sparks - When I'm With You
Talking Heads - Love for Sale
Tears for Fears - Head Over Heels
Todd Terje - Inspector Norse
Moloko - Fun for Me
Oneohtrix Point Never - Problem Areas
Boards of Canada - Everything You Do Is a Balloon
Trans-X - Living on Video
Ronika - Wiyoo
Stice - Ollygoshawda
Scott Walker - Epizootics!

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Monday, 21 March 2022 19:23 (two years ago) link

Thanks Clemenza, Viborg, anyone else with a role, co-voters! A sign of a comprehensive and significant poll is that some people are a bit miffed with the results. (If it wasn't comprehensive they wouldn't have heard of it; if it wasn't significant they wouldn't have cared.)

anatol_merklich, Monday, 21 March 2022 23:36 (two years ago) link

I will probably go through all of the top 100 at some point in the next month. Grateful that an all time video list finally happened here, and just as I was hoping, the stuff I haven't seen yet (so far) is all really bizarre and interesting. I wouldn't call a lot of these worthy of an all time list, but for me that's not really the point.

I totally forgot about that Hot Chip video. But it also reminds me of the Beach House video with Ray Wise that I was so sure would place.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 02:11 (two years ago) link

I know the song, and I figure I must have seen some of the video at some point, but the revelation of the poll for me was "Unfinished Sympathy".

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 02:30 (two years ago) link

I was a #1 vote for "Sabotage" btw, didn't see the email. Given that my son makes me play him that video over and over again, it definitely has legs.

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 14:16 (two years ago) link

I feel like I could make a separate list of "movie scenes that I wish could be music videos."

Andy Warhol's Vinyl for Martha Reeves & The Vandellas' "Nowhere to Run"

James Benning's 11 x 14 for Bob Dylan's "Black Diamond Bay" (two scenes actually)

Martin Scorsese's Mean Streets and GoodFellas for "Then He Kissed Me," "Mickey's Monkey," "What Is Life," "Jumping Jack Flash," "Atlantis" and probably many others

Kenneth Anger's Scorpio Rising for "He's a Rebel"

etc.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 14:35 (two years ago) link

"Subterranean Homesick Blues" in this list is one example.
I feel like part of the attraction of scenes like that is that they're not independent works; the songs come in, blend with the movie and leave. Watching them on their own feels like it's inflating them somehow.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 14:57 (two years ago) link

I've written a book on the subject (pop music in films), and my interest in the two subjects is connected I'm sure. (Another voter has also written a book on the subject...I won't link to his without checking.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 15:16 (two years ago) link

But then Kenneth Anger's use of the Paris Sisters' "Dream Lover" in Kustom Kar Kommandos strikes me as a special case because it's not an excerpt from the film, it's the entire film. I didn't vote for it bc I was trying to honor the distinction between that and videos that were made to promote a record, but I guess that is the principal difference between that and, say, Bruce Conner's film for "Mongoloid" by Devo.

Josefa, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 15:25 (two years ago) link

the subterranean “video” has surely been seen by far more people than the entirety of don’t look back, and certainly passes the iconicity test (based on how often it’s been parodied and imitated)

it’s a bit different from scenes from narrative films that prominently use a song

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 15:31 (two years ago) link

To me, "Subterranean Homesick Blues" works fine as a (legitimate) standalone video. If Don't Look Back didn't exist, but MTV had existed in 1965, I could see where Dylan would have come up with exactly the same thing as his idea of what a video should look like.

clemenza, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 15:43 (two years ago) link

(The "Like a Rolling Stone" video that I voted for, which was probably done six or seven years ago, I would love to know the extent of Dylan's involvement with that. Other than commissioning and ultimately approving it, my guess is nil--I just can't imagine him coming up with anything like what materialized.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 15:53 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gib916jJW1o

ledge, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 15:58 (two years ago) link

I think Bob Roberts came out before "Subterranean" became an "official" video, so I vaguely remember being thrilled just to see the Don't Look Back sequence referenced. (Didn't care for the film at the time, got better when I watched it years later.) Looking at it now, it's just weird that the women look like the Robert Palmer women--reference overload.

clemenza, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 18:07 (two years ago) link

Bob Roberts did it a few years after INXS iirc

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 18:13 (two years ago) link

The Maxell advert is one of the best TV adverts of all time. There’s another one which uses Desmond Dekker’s ‘Israelites’ along same lines to diminishing returns.

Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 18:55 (two years ago) link

That would be this, then. As with “Into The Valley”, I could never hear the track the same way again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KShjB5jyjM

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 23:57 (two years ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Lucero

realized while watching the video for the odb remix of "woo-hah got you all in check" that i love this dude's work, always creative if on a more modest level than say a hype williams, sucks he died so young. tha alkaholiks video he did ("the next level") is pretty much as good as "'93 til infinity"

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 15:11 (two years ago) link

oh yeah thats a good videography. he loved him some contrast.

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 18:38 (two years ago) link

kush is a GREAT video

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 18:39 (two years ago) link

always loved the song/video for xzibit's "paparazzi"

xp lol

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 18:53 (two years ago) link

this is making me want to do a poll for just hip-hop music videos

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 20:45 (two years ago) link

would participate

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 March 2022 16:19 (two years ago) link

after i finished my ballot i made a youtube playlist of it, then i had the bright idea to expand it to 100 places, so here's the finished product:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlRIBtlBJdQ_IZV5yzhr1MnbzHhjbes9-

pretty proud of it, very rewarding project! i've wanted to do something like this since youtube first came into existence and now a majority of the videos have hd upgrades

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 March 2022 16:20 (two years ago) link

that link doesn't work because of the weird hyphen at the end, so here's the real link:

brad's all-time top 100 favorite music videos ever

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 March 2022 16:22 (two years ago) link

Good selecting. I'm happy anyone else has seen and loves "Y Control."

billstevejim, Thursday, 24 March 2022 16:32 (two years ago) link

nice brad! lots of crossover with my favs

jammin on the dud (Spottie), Thursday, 24 March 2022 18:03 (two years ago) link

Totally forgot something I'm almost certain I would have voted for: Paul Simon's "Me and Julio Down by the Schoolyard." I think it was made a couple of years after Graceland; it starts with Big Daddy Kane and Biz Markie. When Mickey Mantle shows up, it's as sublime a moment as Paul McCartney in "They Don't Know"--obviously Paul Simon's dream as a kid, to be pitching to Mickey Mantle, and suddenly there he is. Near the end, another sports icon.

clemenza, Saturday, 26 March 2022 16:13 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

I didn't vote in the Broadcast poll, because I really only remember (and love) "Echo's Answer," but I wish I'd known about this for the video poll.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yEz1eZmUco

clemenza, Sunday, 5 June 2022 01:03 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

AV Club predictably making some eye rolling choices. https://www.avclub.com/50-greatest-music-videos-ranked-1850820669/slides/52

Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:42 (one year ago) link

Very quickly scanning, but yeah. If you could generate a Masterpiece Theatre equivalent of a greatest-videos list, this would be it. (Which is not to imply that most of the famous ones here are boring but good--they're boring and bad.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:19 (one year ago) link


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