Martha, My Dear: ILM's All-Time Video-Poll Results Thread

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Voted for a different MA video but this is a good one.

Chris L, Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:09 (two years ago) link

A good video, but maybe one that suffered, for me, from a kind of inverse of the whole bad song/great video problem. Which is to say, I love the song so much that I'm not sure I would like the video so much if a less interesting song were being played overtop of it.

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:11 (two years ago) link

Might've learned I was gay after reveling in the 'Wicked Game' video.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:11 (two years ago) link

Voted for "The Box."

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:12 (two years ago) link

xxp

(some mangled grammar--and logic(?)--in there, but hopefully youl get what I mean)

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:12 (two years ago) link

Might've confirmed I was straight after reveling in Helena Christensen in the "Wicked Game" video--something for everyone.

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:13 (two years ago) link

TMI

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:16 (two years ago) link

It made me wanna buy a fragrance

Josefa, Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:16 (two years ago) link

Another tie at #26...I'll post these two, then continue tomorrow (again, around mid-day). Should I finish on Saturday or Monday?

Viborg hasn't posted, but thanks again to him for splitting all the preliminary work.

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:16 (two years ago) link

https://phildellio.tripod.com/video-26b.jpg

26. “Transmission,” Joy Division (1979)
68 points/5 votes
Live performance, “Something Else” (BBC)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dBt3mJtgJc

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:18 (two years ago) link

https://phildellio.tripod.com/video-26a.jpg

26. “Oblivion,” Grimes (2012)
68 points/5 votes
Director: Emily Kai Bock

www.youtube.com/watch?v=tain2qdt3K4

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:18 (two years ago) link

They're the greatest dancers.

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:19 (two years ago) link

happy birthday, Grimes!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:19 (two years ago) link

Actually did try to find a directorial credit for the Joy Division, but no luck--somebody directed the TV show. (The song is '78, but the show aired in '79.)

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:20 (two years ago) link

I <3 that Grimes video... pretty sure it's the most "recent" vid I voted for

Please don’t take / My time change away (morrisp), Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:23 (two years ago) link

What are these results? Did music videos peak in 1981?

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:36 (two years ago) link

if you mean '91 (which seems like the rough median here) – then yeah, probably

Please don’t take / My time change away (morrisp), Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:40 (two years ago) link

I haven't dated everything yet, but I have a feeling Grimes is the newest video in the Top 40. As I posted in the intro, this did surprise me.

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:42 (two years ago) link

I've barely seen any music videos made after 1996 or so.

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:42 (two years ago) link

Lots of '90s stuff, so I'd even push that forward.

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:42 (two years ago) link

music videos as a format peaked with almost every rap video from '95-'99

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:44 (two years ago) link

I rarely watch new videos, even for artists I love. I just listen to the track.

Please don’t take / My time change away (morrisp), Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:52 (two years ago) link

whoever made the first video of bundled-up guys in NYC rapping in an empty lot deserves to win

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Thursday, 17 March 2022 17:53 (two years ago) link

That Grimes video must've had a budget of like $18. Was one of my top votes though.

enochroot, Thursday, 17 March 2022 18:06 (two years ago) link

How is that Joy Division clip a video tho? I feel like those votes were just people affirming that yes, they were a great live band.

enochroot, Thursday, 17 March 2022 18:13 (two years ago) link

got sick and failed to vote but enjoying the roll out! thanks clemenza!

Indexed, Thursday, 17 March 2022 18:19 (two years ago) link

Whoa, didn't even realize 'The Box' had an accompanying video. Love that track so hard.

Hasn't that Joy Division clip kind of been co-opted by the band as _the video_ for the song?

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 17 March 2022 18:22 (two years ago) link

How is that Joy Division clip a video tho? I feel like those votes were just people affirming that yes, they were a great live band.

― enochroot, Thursday, March 17, 2022 11:13 AM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i feel like the image i associate with joy division, even more than their actual videos (cf. the "atmosphere" clip), is that performance

the band's youtube channel also insists it is the "official music video" which is hilarious

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 March 2022 18:22 (two years ago) link

I'm gonna guess I'm the only one who voted for non-SLTS Nirvana.

billstevejim, Thursday, 17 March 2022 18:49 (two years ago) link

That's the only straight-performance video that placed--a few others got stray votes. I brought up this point when first proposing the poll, and there was a definite tilt towards a separate poll for such things.

I can understand bending a bit here because a) as Brad says, it's identified as "the official video," and b) the circumstances of Joy Division's brief existence, and the scarcity of actual videos. There's "Atmosphere," there's something closer to a real video for "Love Will Tear Us Apart," there's a homemade one I nominated for "Disorder," and I don't know what else there is.

Plus Ian Curtis dancing.

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 18:50 (two years ago) link

(xpost) Close, but no.

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 18:51 (two years ago) link

I mean "Enjoy The Silence" is great but "Heart Shaped Box" is Anton Corbijn's best.

billstevejim, Thursday, 17 March 2022 18:53 (two years ago) link

I came close to voting for Heart-Shaped Box (which did get a vote)--one of the videos I find unforgettably unsettling (and it passes the I-love-the-song test). Don't want to turn this into another Christgau-is-awful detour, but I remember him remarking that it was terrible in Pazz & Jop that year; I can see where someone might find some of the more grotesque imagery campy, but I loved it then and still do--often just for the band, like the part where Cobain's in the foreground and the other two are behind him, with Novoselic's arm around Grohl. That's a great image.

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 18:58 (two years ago) link

i picked "teen spirit" over "heart-shaped box" because i thought a lot about iconicity when picking my ballot, and there are few more immediately recognizable videos than that one. i think i regret that, though, since that "heart-shaped box" video is the exact right kind of disturbing (i do not relate to that morrisp post above at all haha)

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Thursday, 17 March 2022 19:05 (two years ago) link

I considered voting for "In Bloom" just becasue he makes such great faces in it. The Nevermind-era videos are classic just because he's so much smarter and funnier than their directors.

Chris L, Thursday, 17 March 2022 19:21 (two years ago) link

What are these results? Did music videos peak in 1981?

I think Eric H. was being facetious here, bc one might have feared the results would come out that way

Josefa, Thursday, 17 March 2022 19:22 (two years ago) link

xxp yeah i picked teen spirit over heart-shaped box for similar reasons re iconicity, but rewatching it now i regret it as well. heart-shaped box was one of the first songs i remember loving as a kid when it was getting played relentlessly on 99x in atlanta. i probably haven't seen the video since i was a kid and watching it now i realize its been firmly lodged in my subconscious the way things do when absorbed by the uncritical mind of a child that fully accepts whatever it sees and has already decided is cool. speaking of which, my ballot in general is heavily weighted towards videos that i absorbed in such a way

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 17 March 2022 19:27 (two years ago) link

Similarly, I rewatched R.E.M.'s "Stand" video today (after voting for it last week), and I guess it's not necessarily as objectively great as I remember... its appeal was more rooted in being a preteen R.E.M. fan. It's still pretty good, though (and crazy how much it just looks like an episode of that show Pete & Pete, which the director would later work on).

Please don’t take / My time change away (morrisp), Thursday, 17 March 2022 19:30 (two years ago) link

(xxpost) You might be right (but wouldn't "didn't" be the word to suggest facetiousness?).

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 19:30 (two years ago) link

I still love the much-despised "Shiny Happy People" (even by the band itself) song and video.

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2022 19:32 (two years ago) link

Yeah! Same director

Please don’t take / My time change away (morrisp), Thursday, 17 March 2022 19:37 (two years ago) link

missed a few placements. titillation in music videos often feels so cheap, but idk if any piece of visual media has smoldered quite like "wicked game" before or since.

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Thursday, 17 March 2022 19:38 (two years ago) link

"Wicked Game" = not even the sexiest beach-set music video.

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Thursday, 17 March 2022 19:40 (two years ago) link

It isn't, but it has two of the sexiest people on the beach.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 March 2022 19:40 (two years ago) link

Horny-ass Wikipedia entry:

In the middle of the video, Christensen is seen only in her black lace bra and panty; other times, she wears only a men's white brief.

Please don’t take / My time change away (morrisp), Thursday, 17 March 2022 19:43 (two years ago) link

I feel sullied by the mental image of a Wikipedia editor hornily hyperlinking the word "panty"

Please don’t take / My time change away (morrisp), Thursday, 17 March 2022 19:46 (two years ago) link

is your world on fire

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 March 2022 19:47 (two years ago) link

Go in and add a time-stamped link to the word "middle."

beepy fridges (sic), Thursday, 17 March 2022 19:48 (two years ago) link

What a Wiki game to play

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Thursday, 17 March 2022 19:49 (two years ago) link


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