Martha, My Dear: ILM's All-Time Video-Poll Results Thread

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7. “The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly),” Missy Elliott (1996)
126 points/10 votes
Director: Hype Williams

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:21 (two years ago) link

come on, you guys

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:21 (two years ago) link

(xp although I just re-watched an ep. of "You're the Worst" in which each segment of the show is one long shot, or at least made to look that way, and it's so awesome)

Please don’t take / My time change away (morrisp), Friday, 18 March 2022 18:22 (two years ago) link

Sorry about messing up...I'll hold off for a few minutes till #4--hopefully I can manage not to fuck up the top four.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:22 (two years ago) link

I’m glad people remember and like “Sugar Water.”

Chris L, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:22 (two years ago) link

I didn't realize/remember how many of these Gondry directed (and I have the DVD); it's kind of insane

Please don’t take / My time change away (morrisp), Friday, 18 March 2022 18:24 (two years ago) link

Re: "Sugar Water" – I'm not huge on "one shot" stuff, the show-offy-ness of the technique tends to distract me (though it is a cool video)

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"one shot" (with obvious edits) video i love: scarface "on my block" (which is not placing :( )

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 18 March 2022 18:24 (two years ago) link

"the rain" is hype williams' first and likely only placement on the poll, and i think that sucks way more than "sledgehammer" at 11

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 18 March 2022 18:25 (two years ago) link

The Busta Rhymes videos were Hype Williams’s best.

Chris L, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:28 (two years ago) link

Yeah "Supa Dupa Fly" vs "Put Your Hands Where My Eyes Can See" is a close one. Invention of the form vs perfection of the form.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:30 (two years ago) link

I probably should have voted for "Woo-hah," I used to love that. My list of stuff I had intended to vote for came together so fast, I never really looked outside of that.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:32 (two years ago) link

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4. “Subterranean Homesick Blues,” Bob Dylan (1965)
144 points/14 votes
Director: D.A. Pennebaker

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:33 (two years ago) link

Shoulda used the frame where he holds up the "Pavement" sign ;)

Please don’t take / My time change away (morrisp), Friday, 18 March 2022 18:34 (two years ago) link

"the perfect kiss" is obv in the top three but what else

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 18 March 2022 18:34 (two years ago) link

also, will the other two videos be by michel gondry

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 18 March 2022 18:35 (two years ago) link

come on, you guys

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Friday, 18 March 2022 18:36 (two years ago) link

i see respect is still owed to gnr's "estranged"

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 18 March 2022 18:36 (two years ago) link

did janet get votesplit out of the top 40 entirely

i have so many questions

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 18 March 2022 18:37 (two years ago) link

come on, you guys

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:37 (two years ago) link

lol @ these results. I guess every music video poll ever should be like, here, enjoy these two amazing Gondry DVDs that are like the apex of the form and then tell us what OTHER videos you like.

I think "Everlong" and "Fell In Love With A Girl" are Gondry's remaining vids that have any shot.

billstevejim, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:37 (two years ago) link

I need to find the Top 100 videos ballot I made for a list that never happened

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:38 (two years ago) link

also i would like to suggest that the video for kylie minogue's "slow" >>>>>>>>>> "come into my world"

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 18 March 2022 18:38 (two years ago) link

I voted for "Estranged"!

Please don’t take / My time change away (morrisp), Friday, 18 March 2022 18:38 (two years ago) link

come on my selector

billstevejim, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:40 (two years ago) link

I'm always seeing these things through the prism of Canada's MuchMusic, and my guess is--just a guess--they were a little more flexible in what they played and when they played it. I'm sure I would have seen the Isaak video, as an example, much closer to its release date.

I feel like they did. I was young but I remember them being quite freeform in the late 80s. I know I was perplexed when they played all of Laurie Anderson's Home of the Brave more than once.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 18 March 2022 18:45 (two years ago) link

Both this and the #2 got more votes than the #1, just not as many points.

If the "Like a Rolling Stone" video hadn't been made a few years ago, I probably would have voted for this. I still wonder how many people have even seen the video for "Like a Rolling Stone" (the one that's set up like a cable feed, where you can hop around from show to show and they're all lip-synching the song). It's a real love it or hate it thing.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:46 (two years ago) link

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3. “The Perfect Kiss,” New Order (1985)
150 points/9 votes/two #1 votes
Director: Jonathan Demme

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:49 (two years ago) link

come on, you guys

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:51 (two years ago) link

I guess they didn't make a video for "All Day Long"--wish they had.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:54 (two years ago) link

Is there a story to Jonathan Demme's involvement? "Bizarre Love Triangle" is used well in Married to the Mob, but that comes later.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:56 (two years ago) link

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2. “Sabotage,” Beastie Boys (1994)
176 points/19 votes
Director: Spike Jonze

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:02 (two years ago) link

I didn’t vote but that would have been my #2.

move over GAPDY, now there's BIG THIEF! (PBKR), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:03 (two years ago) link

This may have received a #1 vote, but the voter didn't confirm...The rare--extremely rare--video that brought me around to the song. When I put out Radio On in the '90s, I wrote about a page on the song, I think, almost all of it about the video. (Couldn't find room to vote for it, though.)

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:03 (two years ago) link

Really ... come on, you guys

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:07 (two years ago) link

^Is this still about "Sledgehammer"?

Please don’t take / My time change away (morrisp), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:08 (two years ago) link

"Sabotage" one of the only post-1990 videos I'm really even aware of so points for iconic-ness? But somehow this kind of "what if we made it look just like TV from decade X," fresh at the time, doesn't seem as fun for me anymore. I think WandaVision is basically the last change to ring on that move and the last time it could be interesting.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:10 (two years ago) link

Just before posting the last one, I'll say again that Viborg did a lot of the work here. He's been MIA on the thread.

Before starting, I wouldn't have thought it possible the #1 would be new to me (video and song). I realize that says more about me than the video/song.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:11 (two years ago) link

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1. “Star Guitar,” Chemical Brothers (2002)
184 points/12 votes/one #1 vote
Director: Michel Gondry

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:12 (two years ago) link

Surprisingly pleased with the #1 after some uninspired entries at 2 and 3.

enochroot, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:13 (two years ago) link

That New Order video (which I've actually never seen before) reminds me of P.T. Anderson's videos for Haim: big name director + completely pedestrian video = critical acclaim for some reason?

enochroot, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:14 (two years ago) link

Very surprised "Weapon of Choice" didn't make it but then I also forgot to vote for it.

Chris L, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:14 (two years ago) link

No Open Your Heart, no credibility.

move over GAPDY, now there's BIG THIEF! (PBKR), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:14 (two years ago) link

I've forgotten -- when people post summary lists for polls, do they include points/votes? It'd go a lot faster if I skip those.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:15 (two years ago) link

Have never heard of this song or this video, look forward to watching

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:15 (two years ago) link

Star Guitar my #2 but could have been #1. It achieves a synaesthetic fusion in my mind - the video is the song, the song is the video.

No Thriller?!

ledge, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:16 (two years ago) link

"Thriller" literally got bumped out of the Top 40 (with two others) with the last ballot, which broke a tie at #40.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:17 (two years ago) link

I should have given it more points, I thought it was a guaranteed top ten.

ledge, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:18 (two years ago) link

While I'd never seen it, I do like the #1. I guess everyone carries a version of that video around in their head. Sorry for the self-indulgence, but something I shot myself a month or two before Covid hit, coming home from just outside of the town I'd moved to a few months earlier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4SnbORQIXs

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:20 (two years ago) link

Trains are better, I know.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:21 (two years ago) link


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