Martha, My Dear: ILM's All-Time Video-Poll Results Thread

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Yeah "Supa Dupa Fly" vs "Put Your Hands Where My Eyes Can See" is a close one. Invention of the form vs perfection of the form.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:30 (two years ago) link

I probably should have voted for "Woo-hah," I used to love that. My list of stuff I had intended to vote for came together so fast, I never really looked outside of that.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:32 (two years ago) link

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4. “Subterranean Homesick Blues,” Bob Dylan (1965)
144 points/14 votes
Director: D.A. Pennebaker

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:33 (two years ago) link

Shoulda used the frame where he holds up the "Pavement" sign ;)

Please don’t take / My time change away (morrisp), Friday, 18 March 2022 18:34 (two years ago) link

"the perfect kiss" is obv in the top three but what else

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 18 March 2022 18:34 (two years ago) link

also, will the other two videos be by michel gondry

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 18 March 2022 18:35 (two years ago) link

come on, you guys

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Friday, 18 March 2022 18:36 (two years ago) link

i see respect is still owed to gnr's "estranged"

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 18 March 2022 18:36 (two years ago) link

did janet get votesplit out of the top 40 entirely

i have so many questions

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 18 March 2022 18:37 (two years ago) link

come on, you guys

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:37 (two years ago) link

lol @ these results. I guess every music video poll ever should be like, here, enjoy these two amazing Gondry DVDs that are like the apex of the form and then tell us what OTHER videos you like.

I think "Everlong" and "Fell In Love With A Girl" are Gondry's remaining vids that have any shot.

billstevejim, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:37 (two years ago) link

I need to find the Top 100 videos ballot I made for a list that never happened

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:38 (two years ago) link

also i would like to suggest that the video for kylie minogue's "slow" >>>>>>>>>> "come into my world"

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 18 March 2022 18:38 (two years ago) link

I voted for "Estranged"!

Please don’t take / My time change away (morrisp), Friday, 18 March 2022 18:38 (two years ago) link

come on my selector

billstevejim, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:40 (two years ago) link

I'm always seeing these things through the prism of Canada's MuchMusic, and my guess is--just a guess--they were a little more flexible in what they played and when they played it. I'm sure I would have seen the Isaak video, as an example, much closer to its release date.

I feel like they did. I was young but I remember them being quite freeform in the late 80s. I know I was perplexed when they played all of Laurie Anderson's Home of the Brave more than once.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 18 March 2022 18:45 (two years ago) link

Both this and the #2 got more votes than the #1, just not as many points.

If the "Like a Rolling Stone" video hadn't been made a few years ago, I probably would have voted for this. I still wonder how many people have even seen the video for "Like a Rolling Stone" (the one that's set up like a cable feed, where you can hop around from show to show and they're all lip-synching the song). It's a real love it or hate it thing.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:46 (two years ago) link

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3. “The Perfect Kiss,” New Order (1985)
150 points/9 votes/two #1 votes
Director: Jonathan Demme

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:49 (two years ago) link

come on, you guys

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:51 (two years ago) link

I guess they didn't make a video for "All Day Long"--wish they had.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:54 (two years ago) link

Is there a story to Jonathan Demme's involvement? "Bizarre Love Triangle" is used well in Married to the Mob, but that comes later.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:56 (two years ago) link

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2. “Sabotage,” Beastie Boys (1994)
176 points/19 votes
Director: Spike Jonze

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:02 (two years ago) link

I didn’t vote but that would have been my #2.

move over GAPDY, now there's BIG THIEF! (PBKR), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:03 (two years ago) link

This may have received a #1 vote, but the voter didn't confirm...The rare--extremely rare--video that brought me around to the song. When I put out Radio On in the '90s, I wrote about a page on the song, I think, almost all of it about the video. (Couldn't find room to vote for it, though.)

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:03 (two years ago) link

Really ... come on, you guys

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:07 (two years ago) link

^Is this still about "Sledgehammer"?

Please don’t take / My time change away (morrisp), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:08 (two years ago) link

"Sabotage" one of the only post-1990 videos I'm really even aware of so points for iconic-ness? But somehow this kind of "what if we made it look just like TV from decade X," fresh at the time, doesn't seem as fun for me anymore. I think WandaVision is basically the last change to ring on that move and the last time it could be interesting.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:10 (two years ago) link

Just before posting the last one, I'll say again that Viborg did a lot of the work here. He's been MIA on the thread.

Before starting, I wouldn't have thought it possible the #1 would be new to me (video and song). I realize that says more about me than the video/song.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:11 (two years ago) link

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1. “Star Guitar,” Chemical Brothers (2002)
184 points/12 votes/one #1 vote
Director: Michel Gondry

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:12 (two years ago) link

Surprisingly pleased with the #1 after some uninspired entries at 2 and 3.

enochroot, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:13 (two years ago) link

That New Order video (which I've actually never seen before) reminds me of P.T. Anderson's videos for Haim: big name director + completely pedestrian video = critical acclaim for some reason?

enochroot, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:14 (two years ago) link

Very surprised "Weapon of Choice" didn't make it but then I also forgot to vote for it.

Chris L, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:14 (two years ago) link

No Open Your Heart, no credibility.

move over GAPDY, now there's BIG THIEF! (PBKR), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:14 (two years ago) link

I've forgotten -- when people post summary lists for polls, do they include points/votes? It'd go a lot faster if I skip those.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:15 (two years ago) link

Have never heard of this song or this video, look forward to watching

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:15 (two years ago) link

Star Guitar my #2 but could have been #1. It achieves a synaesthetic fusion in my mind - the video is the song, the song is the video.

No Thriller?!

ledge, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:16 (two years ago) link

"Thriller" literally got bumped out of the Top 40 (with two others) with the last ballot, which broke a tie at #40.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:17 (two years ago) link

I should have given it more points, I thought it was a guaranteed top ten.

ledge, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:18 (two years ago) link

While I'd never seen it, I do like the #1. I guess everyone carries a version of that video around in their head. Sorry for the self-indulgence, but something I shot myself a month or two before Covid hit, coming home from just outside of the town I'd moved to a few months earlier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4SnbORQIXs

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:20 (two years ago) link

Trains are better, I know.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:21 (two years ago) link

I'm glad the top 10 "person walking around" video hinted at early on didn't turn out to be Bitter Sweet Symphony

Chris L, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:22 (two years ago) link

I meant to say, too, in connection to #4, there'd be a person-standing-in-one-spot video.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:26 (two years ago) link

come on, you guys and also come on, you guys, list sucks

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:28 (two years ago) link

That New Order video (which I've actually never seen before) reminds me of P.T. Anderson's videos for Haim: big name director + completely pedestrian video = critical acclaim for some reason?

― enochroot, Friday, March 18, 2022 12:14 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the way demme frames the band is just beautiful, they are objectively boring performers but he makes their every movement pop

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:29 (two years ago) link

Please feel free to post lists here. It'll be few minutes till I get the summary up. (If you need your list, let me know.)

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:31 (two years ago) link

No "Thriller," no "Hurt," no "Closer," no "November Rain," no "Boys of Summer," just lock this thread and start over

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:33 (two years ago) link

Demme tells a story about the band using only performance, similar to what he did in Stop Making Sense. It's a rare gift.

Chris L, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:34 (two years ago) link

(xpost) I've been trying hard to ignore you, but it's becoming increasingly difficult.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:35 (two years ago) link

my very personal ballot which reflected very marginally in the results. bolded placed

Cabaret Voltaire - Sensoria
Orbital - The Box
Madonna - Human Nature
Portishead - Only You
Janet Jackson feat. Q-Tip - Got 'Til It's Gone
Bronski Beat - Smalltown Boy
Coil - Tainted Love
Souls of Mischeif - ’93 Til Infinity
The Smashing Pumpkins - Thirty-Three
George Michael - Freedom! ’90
Laurie Anderson - O Superman
New Order - The Perfect Kiss
Scarface - My Block
Guns N' Roses - Estranged
David Bowie - Lazarus
Radiohead - Daydreaming
Sade - No Ordinary Love
Jamiroquai - Virtual Insanity
Perfume - Spending All My Time
Chemical Brothers - Star Guitar
Pharcyde - Drop
Sinead O’Connor - Nothing Compares 2U

Missy Elliott - She's a B**ch
Kylie Minogue - Slow
Outkast - B.O.B.
Van Halen - Right Now
The Blue Nile - Stay
Roisin Murphy - Overpowered
K.D. Lang - Constant Craving
Chris Isaak - Wicked Game
Scarface feat. 2Pac - Smile
Deftones - Change (In the House of Flies)
Talk Talk - Life’s What You Make It
Brandy & Monica - The Boy Is Mine
Mariah Carey - Fantasy
Notorious BIG - Mo Money Mo Problems
Herbie Hancock - Rockit
Busta Rhymes - Gimme Some More
The Whispers - Keep on Lovin’ Me
Massive Attack - Unfinished Sympathy
Lauryn Hill - Doo Wop (That Thing)
D'Angelo - Untitled (How Does It Feel)
Cardigans - My Favorite Game
Ice Cube - It Was a Good Day
The XX - Islands
Zazen Boys - Weekend
Sonic Youth - Bull in the Heather
Paula Abdul - Cold Hearted
2NE1 - I Am the Best
Autechre - Gantz Graf

"b.o.b." didn't place at all? shenanigans

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:35 (two years ago) link


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