Martha, My Dear: ILM's All-Time Video-Poll Results Thread

come on, you guys

i see respect is still owed to gnr's "estranged"

did janet get votesplit out of the top 40 entirely

i have so many questions

come on, you guys

lol @ these results. I guess every music video poll ever should be like, here, enjoy these two amazing Gondry DVDs that are like the apex of the form and then tell us what OTHER videos you like.

I think "Everlong" and "Fell In Love With A Girl" are Gondry's remaining vids that have any shot.

I need to find the Top 100 videos ballot I made for a list that never happened

also i would like to suggest that the video for kylie minogue's "slow" >>>>>>>>>> "come into my world"

I voted for "Estranged"!

come on my selector

I'm always seeing these things through the prism of Canada's MuchMusic, and my guess is--just a guess--they were a little more flexible in what they played and when they played it. I'm sure I would have seen the Isaak video, as an example, much closer to its release date.

I feel like they did. I was young but I remember them being quite freeform in the late 80s. I know I was perplexed when they played all of Laurie Anderson's Home of the Brave more than once.

Both this and the #2 got more votes than the #1, just not as many points.

If the "Like a Rolling Stone" video hadn't been made a few years ago, I probably would have voted for this. I still wonder how many people have even seen the video for "Like a Rolling Stone" (the one that's set up like a cable feed, where you can hop around from show to show and they're all lip-synching the song). It's a real love it or hate it thing.

https://phildellio.tripod.com/video-03.jpg

3. “The Perfect Kiss,” New Order (1985)
150 points/9 votes/two #1 votes
Director: Jonathan Demme

come on, you guys

I guess they didn't make a video for "All Day Long"--wish they had.

Is there a story to Jonathan Demme's involvement? "Bizarre Love Triangle" is used well in Married to the Mob, but that comes later.

https://phildellio.tripod.com/video-02.jpg

2. “Sabotage,” Beastie Boys (1994)
176 points/19 votes
Director: Spike Jonze

I didn’t vote but that would have been my #2.

This may have received a #1 vote, but the voter didn't confirm...The rare--extremely rare--video that brought me around to the song. When I put out Radio On in the '90s, I wrote about a page on the song, I think, almost all of it about the video. (Couldn't find room to vote for it, though.)

Really ... come on, you guys

^Is this still about "Sledgehammer"?

"Sabotage" one of the only post-1990 videos I'm really even aware of so points for iconic-ness? But somehow this kind of "what if we made it look just like TV from decade X," fresh at the time, doesn't seem as fun for me anymore. I think WandaVision is basically the last change to ring on that move and the last time it could be interesting.

Just before posting the last one, I'll say again that Viborg did a lot of the work here. He's been MIA on the thread.

Before starting, I wouldn't have thought it possible the #1 would be new to me (video and song). I realize that says more about me than the video/song.

https://phildellio.tripod.com/video-01.jpg

1. “Star Guitar,” Chemical Brothers (2002)
184 points/12 votes/one #1 vote
Director: Michel Gondry

Surprisingly pleased with the #1 after some uninspired entries at 2 and 3.

That New Order video (which I've actually never seen before) reminds me of P.T. Anderson's videos for Haim: big name director + completely pedestrian video = critical acclaim for some reason?

Very surprised "Weapon of Choice" didn't make it but then I also forgot to vote for it.

No Open Your Heart, no credibility.

I've forgotten -- when people post summary lists for polls, do they include points/votes? It'd go a lot faster if I skip those.

Have never heard of this song or this video, look forward to watching

Star Guitar my #2 but could have been #1. It achieves a synaesthetic fusion in my mind - the video is the song, the song is the video.

No Thriller?!

"Thriller" literally got bumped out of the Top 40 (with two others) with the last ballot, which broke a tie at #40.

I should have given it more points, I thought it was a guaranteed top ten.

While I'd never seen it, I do like the #1. I guess everyone carries a version of that video around in their head. Sorry for the self-indulgence, but something I shot myself a month or two before Covid hit, coming home from just outside of the town I'd moved to a few months earlier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4SnbORQIXs

Trains are better, I know.

I'm glad the top 10 "person walking around" video hinted at early on didn't turn out to be Bitter Sweet Symphony

I meant to say, too, in connection to #4, there'd be a person-standing-in-one-spot video.

come on, you guys and also come on, you guys, list sucks

That New Order video (which I've actually never seen before) reminds me of P.T. Anderson's videos for Haim: big name director + completely pedestrian video = critical acclaim for some reason?

― enochroot, Friday, March 18, 2022 12:14 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the way demme frames the band is just beautiful, they are objectively boring performers but he makes their every movement pop

Please feel free to post lists here. It'll be few minutes till I get the summary up. (If you need your list, let me know.)

No "Thriller," no "Hurt," no "Closer," no "November Rain," no "Boys of Summer," just lock this thread and start over

Demme tells a story about the band using only performance, similar to what he did in Stop Making Sense. It's a rare gift.

(xpost) I've been trying hard to ignore you, but it's becoming increasingly difficult.

my very personal ballot which reflected very marginally in the results. bolded placed

Cabaret Voltaire - Sensoria
Orbital - The Box
Madonna - Human Nature
Portishead - Only You
Janet Jackson feat. Q-Tip - Got 'Til It's Gone
Bronski Beat - Smalltown Boy
Coil - Tainted Love
Souls of Mischeif - ’93 Til Infinity
The Smashing Pumpkins - Thirty-Three
George Michael - Freedom! ’90
Laurie Anderson - O Superman
New Order - The Perfect Kiss
Scarface - My Block
Guns N' Roses - Estranged
David Bowie - Lazarus
Radiohead - Daydreaming
Sade - No Ordinary Love
Jamiroquai - Virtual Insanity
Perfume - Spending All My Time
Chemical Brothers - Star Guitar
Pharcyde - Drop
Sinead O’Connor - Nothing Compares 2U
Missy Elliott - She's a B**ch
Kylie Minogue - Slow
Outkast - B.O.B.
Van Halen - Right Now
The Blue Nile - Stay
Roisin Murphy - Overpowered
K.D. Lang - Constant Craving
Chris Isaak - Wicked Game
Scarface feat. 2Pac - Smile
Deftones - Change (In the House of Flies)
Talk Talk - Life’s What You Make It
Brandy & Monica - The Boy Is Mine
Mariah Carey - Fantasy
Notorious BIG - Mo Money Mo Problems
Herbie Hancock - Rockit
Busta Rhymes - Gimme Some More
The Whispers - Keep on Lovin’ Me
Massive Attack - Unfinished Sympathy
Lauryn Hill - Doo Wop (That Thing)
D'Angelo - Untitled (How Does It Feel)
Cardigans - My Favorite Game
Ice Cube - It Was a Good Day
The XX - Islands
Zazen Boys - Weekend
Sonic Youth - Bull in the Heather
Paula Abdul - Cold Hearted
2NE1 - I Am the Best
Autechre - Gantz Graf

"b.o.b." didn't place at all? shenanigans

Hate to say it, but that was one of the three that got knocked out by the last ballot (the other I'd never heard of).

That OutKast video was the only other one on my ballot I was sure would place.

No "Thriller," no "Hurt," no "Closer," no "November Rain," no "Boys of Summer," just lock this thread and start over

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, March 18, 2022 3:33 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Maybe not Boys of Summer.

That New Order video (which I've actually never seen before) reminds me of P.T. Anderson's videos for Haim: big name director + completely pedestrian video = critical acclaim for some reason?

― enochroot, Friday, March 18, 2022

This is a weird criticism considering how well-chosen (and held!) those close-ups are.

Here is a Top 100 I made in 2018 that I could have repurposed, I suppose

1. Johnny Cash, "Hurt"
2. Peter Gabriel, "Sledgehammer"
3. A-ha, "Take on Me"
4. George Michael, "Freedom '90"
5. Herbie Hancock, "Rockit"
6. Jay-Z, "99 Problems"
7. Don Henley, "Boys of Summer"
8. Aphex Twin, "Come to Daddy"
9. Michael Jackson, "Thriller"
10. Michael Jackson and Janet Jackson, "Scream"
11. Missy Elliott, "The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)"
12. Beyoncé, "Formation"
13. Nine Inch Nails, "Closer"
14. Guns N' Roses, "November Rain"
15. Duran Duran, "Hungry Like the Wolf"
16. Madonna, "Express Yourself"
17. Public Enemy, "Night of the Living Baseheads"
18. Aerosmith, "Janie's Got a Gun"
19. Busta Rhymes, "Put Your Hands Where My Eyes Could See"
20. Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Give It Away"
21. Marilyn Manson, "The Beautiful People"
22. Janet Jackson, "When I Think of You"
23. Eurythmics, "Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)"
24. Bob Dylan, "Subterranean Homesick Blues"
25. Audioslave, "Cochise"
26. Chris Isaak, "Wicked Game"
27. Beastie Boys, "Sabotage"
28. R.E.M., "The One I Love"
29. Bruce Springsteen, "Brilliant Disguise"
30. Grace Jones, "Slave to the Rhythm"
31. Lady Gaga, "Bad Romance"
32. Michael Jackson, "Bad"
33. Nirvana, "Smells Like Teen Spirit"
34. Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean"
35. Lucas, "Lucas With the Lid Off"
36. Art of Noise, "Close (to the Edit)"
37. Dire Straits, "Money for Nothing"
38. Sinead O'Connor, "Nothing Compares 2 U"
39. Prodigy, "Smack My Bitch Up"
40. The Residents, "One Minute Movies"
41. Tom Petty, "Don't Come Around Here No More"
42. Wax, “California”
43. Michael Jackson, "Smooth Criminal"
44. Pearl Jam, "Jeremy"
45. Scarface, "My Block"
46. Talking Heads, "Love for Sale"
47. The Replacements, "Bastards Of Young"
48. Billy Idol, "Cradle Of Love"
49. Notorious B.I.G., "Hypnotize"
50. Faith No More, "Epic"
51. Eels, "Novocaine for the Soul"
52. David Lee Roth, "Just A Gigolo/I Ain't Got Nobody"
53. Beck, "Loser"
54. David Bowie, "Ashes To Ashes"
55. Beyoncé, "Single Ladies"
56. DJ Jazzy Jeff & the Fresh Prince, "Parents Just Don't Understand"
57. Jamiroquai, "Virtual Insanity"
58. New Order, "True Faith"
59. Robert Palmer, "Addicted to Love"
60. Genesis, "Land of Confusion"
61. The Cars, "You Might Think"
62. White Stripes, "Fell In Love With a Girl"
63. Miley Cyrus, "We Can't Stop"
64. Kanye West, "Runaway"
65. LL Cool J, "Going Back To Cali"
66. Metallica, "One"
67. Taylor Swift, "Look What You Made Me Do"
68. Juvenile, "Ha"
69. M.I.A., "Born Free"
70. D'Angelo, "Untitled"
71. Til Tuesday, "Voices Carry"
72. Michael Jackson, "Leave Me Alone"
73. R.E.M., "Losing My Religion"
74. Taylor Swift, "Blank Space"
75. The Police, "Every Breath You Take"
76. Golden Earring, "Twilight Zone"
77. Janet Jackson, "Love Will Never Do (Without You)"
78. Lenny Kravitz, "Are You Gonna Go My Way"
79. Radiohead, "Just"
80. Devo, "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction"
81. Kylie Minogue, "Come Into My World"
82. Paula Abdul, "Straight Up"
83. Madonna, "Ray of Light"
84. Dr. Dre, "Nuthin' But a G Thang"
85. Chemical Brothers, "Elektrobank"
86. Peter Gabriel, "Shock the Monkey"
87. Madonna, "Open Your Heart"
88. Run-DMC and Aerosmith, "Walk This Way"
89. U2, "With or Without You"
90. Britney Spears, "Toxic"
91. Rihanna, "We Found Love"
92. Van Halen, "Right Now"
93. White Stripes, "The Hardest Button to Button"
94. The Human League, "Don't You Want Me"
95. Steriogram, "Walkie Talkie Man"
96. R.E.M., "Everybody Hurts"
97. A Tribe Called Quest, "Scenario"
98. They Might Be Giants, "Don't Let's Start"
99. OK Go, "This Too Shall Pass"
100. Squeeze, "Hourglass"