Martha, My Dear: ILM's All-Time Video-Poll Results Thread

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3. “The Perfect Kiss,” New Order (1985)
150 points/9 votes/two #1 votes
Director: Jonathan Demme

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:49 (two years ago) link

come on, you guys

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:51 (two years ago) link

I guess they didn't make a video for "All Day Long"--wish they had.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:54 (two years ago) link

Is there a story to Jonathan Demme's involvement? "Bizarre Love Triangle" is used well in Married to the Mob, but that comes later.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 18:56 (two years ago) link

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2. “Sabotage,” Beastie Boys (1994)
176 points/19 votes
Director: Spike Jonze

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:02 (two years ago) link

I didn’t vote but that would have been my #2.

move over GAPDY, now there's BIG THIEF! (PBKR), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:03 (two years ago) link

This may have received a #1 vote, but the voter didn't confirm...The rare--extremely rare--video that brought me around to the song. When I put out Radio On in the '90s, I wrote about a page on the song, I think, almost all of it about the video. (Couldn't find room to vote for it, though.)

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:03 (two years ago) link

Really ... come on, you guys

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:07 (two years ago) link

^Is this still about "Sledgehammer"?

Please don’t take / My time change away (morrisp), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:08 (two years ago) link

"Sabotage" one of the only post-1990 videos I'm really even aware of so points for iconic-ness? But somehow this kind of "what if we made it look just like TV from decade X," fresh at the time, doesn't seem as fun for me anymore. I think WandaVision is basically the last change to ring on that move and the last time it could be interesting.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:10 (two years ago) link

Just before posting the last one, I'll say again that Viborg did a lot of the work here. He's been MIA on the thread.

Before starting, I wouldn't have thought it possible the #1 would be new to me (video and song). I realize that says more about me than the video/song.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:11 (two years ago) link

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1. “Star Guitar,” Chemical Brothers (2002)
184 points/12 votes/one #1 vote
Director: Michel Gondry

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:12 (two years ago) link

Surprisingly pleased with the #1 after some uninspired entries at 2 and 3.

enochroot, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:13 (two years ago) link

That New Order video (which I've actually never seen before) reminds me of P.T. Anderson's videos for Haim: big name director + completely pedestrian video = critical acclaim for some reason?

enochroot, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:14 (two years ago) link

Very surprised "Weapon of Choice" didn't make it but then I also forgot to vote for it.

Chris L, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:14 (two years ago) link

No Open Your Heart, no credibility.

move over GAPDY, now there's BIG THIEF! (PBKR), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:14 (two years ago) link

I've forgotten -- when people post summary lists for polls, do they include points/votes? It'd go a lot faster if I skip those.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:15 (two years ago) link

Have never heard of this song or this video, look forward to watching

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:15 (two years ago) link

Star Guitar my #2 but could have been #1. It achieves a synaesthetic fusion in my mind - the video is the song, the song is the video.

No Thriller?!

ledge, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:16 (two years ago) link

"Thriller" literally got bumped out of the Top 40 (with two others) with the last ballot, which broke a tie at #40.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:17 (two years ago) link

I should have given it more points, I thought it was a guaranteed top ten.

ledge, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:18 (two years ago) link

While I'd never seen it, I do like the #1. I guess everyone carries a version of that video around in their head. Sorry for the self-indulgence, but something I shot myself a month or two before Covid hit, coming home from just outside of the town I'd moved to a few months earlier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4SnbORQIXs

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:20 (two years ago) link

Trains are better, I know.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:21 (two years ago) link

I'm glad the top 10 "person walking around" video hinted at early on didn't turn out to be Bitter Sweet Symphony

Chris L, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:22 (two years ago) link

I meant to say, too, in connection to #4, there'd be a person-standing-in-one-spot video.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:26 (two years ago) link

come on, you guys and also come on, you guys, list sucks

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:28 (two years ago) link

That New Order video (which I've actually never seen before) reminds me of P.T. Anderson's videos for Haim: big name director + completely pedestrian video = critical acclaim for some reason?

― enochroot, Friday, March 18, 2022 12:14 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the way demme frames the band is just beautiful, they are objectively boring performers but he makes their every movement pop

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:29 (two years ago) link

Please feel free to post lists here. It'll be few minutes till I get the summary up. (If you need your list, let me know.)

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:31 (two years ago) link

No "Thriller," no "Hurt," no "Closer," no "November Rain," no "Boys of Summer," just lock this thread and start over

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:33 (two years ago) link

Demme tells a story about the band using only performance, similar to what he did in Stop Making Sense. It's a rare gift.

Chris L, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:34 (two years ago) link

(xpost) I've been trying hard to ignore you, but it's becoming increasingly difficult.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:35 (two years ago) link

my very personal ballot which reflected very marginally in the results. bolded placed

Cabaret Voltaire - Sensoria
Orbital - The Box
Madonna - Human Nature
Portishead - Only You
Janet Jackson feat. Q-Tip - Got 'Til It's Gone
Bronski Beat - Smalltown Boy
Coil - Tainted Love
Souls of Mischeif - ’93 Til Infinity
The Smashing Pumpkins - Thirty-Three
George Michael - Freedom! ’90
Laurie Anderson - O Superman
New Order - The Perfect Kiss
Scarface - My Block
Guns N' Roses - Estranged
David Bowie - Lazarus
Radiohead - Daydreaming
Sade - No Ordinary Love
Jamiroquai - Virtual Insanity
Perfume - Spending All My Time
Chemical Brothers - Star Guitar
Pharcyde - Drop
Sinead O’Connor - Nothing Compares 2U

Missy Elliott - She's a B**ch
Kylie Minogue - Slow
Outkast - B.O.B.
Van Halen - Right Now
The Blue Nile - Stay
Roisin Murphy - Overpowered
K.D. Lang - Constant Craving
Chris Isaak - Wicked Game
Scarface feat. 2Pac - Smile
Deftones - Change (In the House of Flies)
Talk Talk - Life’s What You Make It
Brandy & Monica - The Boy Is Mine
Mariah Carey - Fantasy
Notorious BIG - Mo Money Mo Problems
Herbie Hancock - Rockit
Busta Rhymes - Gimme Some More
The Whispers - Keep on Lovin’ Me
Massive Attack - Unfinished Sympathy
Lauryn Hill - Doo Wop (That Thing)
D'Angelo - Untitled (How Does It Feel)
Cardigans - My Favorite Game
Ice Cube - It Was a Good Day
The XX - Islands
Zazen Boys - Weekend
Sonic Youth - Bull in the Heather
Paula Abdul - Cold Hearted
2NE1 - I Am the Best
Autechre - Gantz Graf

"b.o.b." didn't place at all? shenanigans

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:35 (two years ago) link

Hate to say it, but that was one of the three that got knocked out by the last ballot (the other I'd never heard of).

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:36 (two years ago) link

That OutKast video was the only other one on my ballot I was sure would place.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:38 (two years ago) link

No "Thriller," no "Hurt," no "Closer," no "November Rain," no "Boys of Summer," just lock this thread and start over

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, March 18, 2022 3:33 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

move over GAPDY, now there's BIG THIEF! (PBKR), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:38 (two years ago) link

Maybe not Boys of Summer.

move over GAPDY, now there's BIG THIEF! (PBKR), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:39 (two years ago) link

That New Order video (which I've actually never seen before) reminds me of P.T. Anderson's videos for Haim: big name director + completely pedestrian video = critical acclaim for some reason?

― enochroot, Friday, March 18, 2022

This is a weird criticism considering how well-chosen (and held!) those close-ups are.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:39 (two years ago) link

Here is a Top 100 I made in 2018 that I could have repurposed, I suppose

1. Johnny Cash, "Hurt"
2. Peter Gabriel, "Sledgehammer"
3. A-ha, "Take on Me"
4. George Michael, "Freedom '90"
5. Herbie Hancock, "Rockit"
6. Jay-Z, "99 Problems"
7. Don Henley, "Boys of Summer"
8. Aphex Twin, "Come to Daddy"
9. Michael Jackson, "Thriller"
10. Michael Jackson and Janet Jackson, "Scream"
11. Missy Elliott, "The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)"
12. Beyoncé, "Formation"
13. Nine Inch Nails, "Closer"
14. Guns N' Roses, "November Rain"
15. Duran Duran, "Hungry Like the Wolf"
16. Madonna, "Express Yourself"
17. Public Enemy, "Night of the Living Baseheads"
18. Aerosmith, "Janie's Got a Gun"
19. Busta Rhymes, "Put Your Hands Where My Eyes Could See"
20. Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Give It Away"
21. Marilyn Manson, "The Beautiful People"
22. Janet Jackson, "When I Think of You"
23. Eurythmics, "Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)"
24. Bob Dylan, "Subterranean Homesick Blues"
25. Audioslave, "Cochise"
26. Chris Isaak, "Wicked Game"
27. Beastie Boys, "Sabotage"
28. R.E.M., "The One I Love"
29. Bruce Springsteen, "Brilliant Disguise"
30. Grace Jones, "Slave to the Rhythm"
31. Lady Gaga, "Bad Romance"
32. Michael Jackson, "Bad"
33. Nirvana, "Smells Like Teen Spirit"
34. Michael Jackson, "Billie Jean"
35. Lucas, "Lucas With the Lid Off"
36. Art of Noise, "Close (to the Edit)"
37. Dire Straits, "Money for Nothing"
38. Sinead O'Connor, "Nothing Compares 2 U"
39. Prodigy, "Smack My Bitch Up"
40. The Residents, "One Minute Movies"
41. Tom Petty, "Don't Come Around Here No More"
42. Wax, “California”
43. Michael Jackson, "Smooth Criminal"
44. Pearl Jam, "Jeremy"
45. Scarface, "My Block"
46. Talking Heads, "Love for Sale"
47. The Replacements, "Bastards Of Young"
48. Billy Idol, "Cradle Of Love"
49. Notorious B.I.G., "Hypnotize"
50. Faith No More, "Epic"
51. Eels, "Novocaine for the Soul"
52. David Lee Roth, "Just A Gigolo/I Ain't Got Nobody"
53. Beck, "Loser"
54. David Bowie, "Ashes To Ashes"
55. Beyoncé, "Single Ladies"
56. DJ Jazzy Jeff & the Fresh Prince, "Parents Just Don't Understand"
57. Jamiroquai, "Virtual Insanity"
58. New Order, "True Faith"
59. Robert Palmer, "Addicted to Love"
60. Genesis, "Land of Confusion"
61. The Cars, "You Might Think"
62. White Stripes, "Fell In Love With a Girl"
63. Miley Cyrus, "We Can't Stop"
64. Kanye West, "Runaway"
65. LL Cool J, "Going Back To Cali"
66. Metallica, "One"
67. Taylor Swift, "Look What You Made Me Do"
68. Juvenile, "Ha"
69. M.I.A., "Born Free"
70. D'Angelo, "Untitled"
71. Til Tuesday, "Voices Carry"
72. Michael Jackson, "Leave Me Alone"
73. R.E.M., "Losing My Religion"
74. Taylor Swift, "Blank Space"
75. The Police, "Every Breath You Take"
76. Golden Earring, "Twilight Zone"
77. Janet Jackson, "Love Will Never Do (Without You)"
78. Lenny Kravitz, "Are You Gonna Go My Way"
79. Radiohead, "Just"
80. Devo, "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction"
81. Kylie Minogue, "Come Into My World"
82. Paula Abdul, "Straight Up"
83. Madonna, "Ray of Light"
84. Dr. Dre, "Nuthin' But a G Thang"
85. Chemical Brothers, "Elektrobank"
86. Peter Gabriel, "Shock the Monkey"
87. Madonna, "Open Your Heart"
88. Run-DMC and Aerosmith, "Walk This Way"
89. U2, "With or Without You"
90. Britney Spears, "Toxic"
91. Rihanna, "We Found Love"
92. Van Halen, "Right Now"
93. White Stripes, "The Hardest Button to Button"
94. The Human League, "Don't You Want Me"
95. Steriogram, "Walkie Talkie Man"
96. R.E.M., "Everybody Hurts"
97. A Tribe Called Quest, "Scenario"
98. They Might Be Giants, "Don't Let's Start"
99. OK Go, "This Too Shall Pass"
100. Squeeze, "Hourglass"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:40 (two years ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Baptiste_Mondino

this guy does great work. didn't know he did the "boys of summer" video

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:41 (two years ago) link

Another big omission: Fight the Power

Chris L, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:44 (two years ago) link

Only one of my 50 placed. But that's normal--it continues to mystify me when people complain about results for such a random process. If 45 different ILM people had voted, the results would have been different.

1. DJ Jazzy Jeff & the Fresh Prince - Summertime (30)
2. Shop Assistants - Safety Net (25)
3. Julie Ruin - Lookout (22)
4. Todd Terje - Inspector Norse (20)
5. Rihanna - Cheers (Drink to That) (18)
6. Wilco - I Am Trying to Break Your Heart (13)
7. Bananarama - Cruel Summer (13)
8. Guided by Voices - Motor Away (13)
9. Cyndi Lauper - Time After Time (13)
10. Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone (13)

Beatles - Paperback Writer (11)
Creedence Clearwater Revival - Sweet Hitch-Hiker (11)
Feist - 1234 (11)
Green Day - Walking Contradiction (11)
Hole - Miss World (11)
Psychic TV - Only Love Can Break Your Heart (11)
R.E.M. - Man on the Moon (11)
Shins - The Past and the Pending (11)
Sinead O'Connor - The Emperor's New Clothes (11)
Sonic Youth - Teen Age Riot (11)

Arrested Development - People Everyday (9)
Beat Happening - Indian Summer (9)
Dionne Warwick - Walk On By (9)
Fiona Apple - Paper Bag (9)
Kate Bush - Cloudbusting (9)
Outkast - Hey Ya! (Charlie Brown version) (9)
Tracey Ullman - They Don't Know (9)
XTC - Life Begins at the Hop (9)
Yo La Tengo - I'll Be Around (9)
Zebra Katz & Reddd Foxxx - Ima Read (9)

Courtney Barnett - Avant Gardener (7)
Cream - I Feel Free (7)
Devo - The Day My Baby Gave Me a Surprize (7)
Go-Betweens - Streets of Your Town (7)
Imperial Teen - You're One (7)
Lady Gaga & Beyoncé - Telephone (7)
Lauryn Hill - Doo Wop (That Thing) (7)
Rolling Stones - Rocks Off (7)
Undertones - It's Going to Happen! (7)
Wussy - Halloween (7)

Blur - Out of Time (5)
Deerhunter - He Would Have Laughed (5)
Joy Division - Disorder (5)
Karen Dalton - Something on Your Mind (5)
Liz Phair - Divorce Song (5)
Marshall Crenshaw - Whenever You're on My Mind (5)
Melanie - Lay Down (Candles in the Rain) (5)
Modern Lovers - Roadrunner (5)
Nico - I'm Not Sayin' (5)
Vaselines - Molly's Lips (5)

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:44 (two years ago) link

Don Henley has a solo career thanks to that video. And apparently he was hungover as hell shooting his sections.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:45 (two years ago) link

one of the positive things i can say about the list is that nothing by jonas akerlund placed

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:45 (two years ago) link

xp Also thanks to Tom Petty inexplicably passing on Mike Campbell's demo.

Chris L, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:47 (two years ago) link

My unranked ballot

Beastie Boys - Sabotage
Busta Rhymes - Gimme Some More
David Bowie - Lazarus
Geto Boys - Mind Playin' Tricks on Me
Depeche Mode - Enjoy the Silence
Bjork - Bachelorette
Bob Dylan - Subterranean Homesick Blues
Yo La Tengo - I'll Be Around
Public Enemy - Fight the Power
Cibo Matto - Sugar Water
Massive Attack - Protection
Daft Punk - Da Funk
De La Soul - Ring Ring Ring (Ha Ha Hey)
Deee-Lite - Groove is in the Heart
Fever Ray - Keep the Streets Empty for Me
George Michael - Freedom '90
Replacements - Bastards of Young
Janet Jackson - Rhythm Nation
Missy Elliott - The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)
N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton
nine inch nails - march of the pigs
Pavement - Cut Your Hair
Prince - Automatic
R.E.M. - Losing My Religion
Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares to You
Radiohead - Daydreaming
Sonic Youth - Bull in the Heather
Stardust - Music Sounds Better with You
Suicide Commandos - Burn It Down
Suicidal Tendencies - Institutionalized
Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers - Don't Come Around Here No More
Erykah Badu - Honey
Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime
Madonna - Express Yourself
Susanne Sundfør - Accelerate
Oneohtrix Point Never - Lost But Never Alone
New Order - The Perfect Kiss
Wu-Tang Clan - Gravel Pit
Fiona Apple - Criminal
Breeders - Cannonball
Bat for Lashes - What's a Girl to Do?
A Tribe Called Quest - Electric Relaxation
Pet Shop Boys - West End Girls
Dead Milkmen - Punk Rock Girl
Chris Isaak - Wicked Game
INXS - Never Tear Us Apart
Minutemen - This Ain't No Picnic
Chemical Brothers - Star Guitar
Weezer - Buddy Holly
Herbie Hancock - Rockit

Chris L, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:48 (two years ago) link

Don't know why I said one out of my 50 placed--it's actually zero. There must have been one of them (maybe "Inspector Norse") that was in the Top 40 at one point.

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:49 (two years ago) link

"Cloudbusting" placed.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:52 (two years ago) link

I just knew something bleh was gonna happen

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 March 2022 19:53 (two years ago) link

That was it, thanks...Was busy when I posted "Cloudbusting": love that (and the easy highlight for me of pop music in The Handmaid's Tale).

clemenza, Friday, 18 March 2022 19:53 (two years ago) link


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