I'm noticing a lot of people nominated and voted for videos where some band from the 70s or 80s performs in a nondescript setting and it just kinda looks like 1000 other videos and nothing happens and then the video ends.
― billstevejim, Saturday, 19 March 2022 17:25 (two years ago) link
Like idk even the Joy Division video. Granted they look very cool and it's mesmerizing watching them play but conceptually it might as well be "Working For The Weekend."
― billstevejim, Saturday, 19 March 2022 17:29 (two years ago) link
Idk about that vid in particular, but I’d argue that a video doesn’t have to be high-concept to be great (any more than a song does).
― Please don’t take / My time change away (morrisp), Saturday, 19 March 2022 17:38 (two years ago) link
a nondescript setting and it just kinda looks like 1000 other videos and nothing happens and then the video ends
Guilty as charged, probably, although mine were more from the '60s. But I voted for promotional clips by Cream, Melanie, and Nico that more or less fit your description, as does the Badfinger clip I posted just above. I love these songs, and I just like the idea that there's something video-like out there for them.
― clemenza, Saturday, 19 March 2022 17:49 (two years ago) link
Yeah, those aren’t really music videos
― Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Saturday, 19 March 2022 19:30 (two years ago) link
Was just thinking why didn’t the music video poll results start… was it ever posted in the nomination thread?Anyway these results are not what I was expecting at all. I think only a couple of mine placed and I’ve only seen like ~ten of the top forty… Here was my ranked ballot: Korn - Freak on a LeashBusta Rhymes - Woo-Hah!! Got You All in CheckRadiohead - Paranoid AndroidKiesza - HideawayPharcyde - DropIce cube - it was a good day Three 6 Mafia - Stay Fly (ft 8ball & MJG)Xzibit - what u see is what you getCaroline Polachek - So Hot You're Hurting My FeelingsMy Chemical Romance - HelenaDe la soul - ooohh2pac - Smile Fiona Apple - CriminalRedman - ill be datWu tang - click clickTLC - Aint 2 Proud 2 BegMissy Elliott - The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)Naughty by nature - feel me flowNORE - superthugBeck - E-ProMaster P - Make em Say UghMissy Elliott - Pass That DutchBeastie Boys - SabotageScarface - my blockWu-Tang Clan - TriumphOutkast - BOBDmx - ruff ryders anthemNotorious B.I.G. - Mo Money Mo ProblemsZZ Top - Rough BoyDr. Dre - Nuthin' But a G ThangJanet Jackson - thats the way love goesRoots - dont say nuthinNine Inch Nails - CloserRema - dumebi UGK - International Players Anthem (I Choose You)Ludacris - Get BackP.M. Dawn - Set Adrift on Memory BlissJay-Z & Kanye West - OtisBeyoncé - Single Ladies (Put a Ring On It)Health skeltah - operation lockdownJay rock - kings deadFatlip - Whats up fat lipRihanna - Rude BoyDem Franchise Boyz - Lean Wit ItDonnie Trumpet & the Social Experiment - Sunday Candy Smashing Pumpkins - Tonight, TonightJuvenile - HaTyler The Creator - YonkersSlipknot - Before I ForgetA Tribe Called Quest - Scenario
― jammin on the dud (Spottie), Saturday, 19 March 2022 20:18 (two years ago) link
good list!!!
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 March 2022 20:25 (two years ago) link
Thanks, apparently I completely forgot to add November rain which is a top 3 for me.
― jammin on the dud (Spottie), Saturday, 19 March 2022 20:48 (two years ago) link
you:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/aa/62/63/aa62635e5e738f0201b122f0386c9fab.gif
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 March 2022 21:21 (two years ago) link
Haha yup
― jammin on the dud (Spottie), Saturday, 19 March 2022 21:29 (two years ago) link
as for which use your illusion video is superior, i think i was put here on this earth to advocate for music videos featuring heavy cgi dolphin content
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 March 2022 21:30 (two years ago) link
it also starts off making you believe it's a concert video! but it absolutely isn't! it just grows increasingly bizarre! and i love that
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 19 March 2022 21:31 (two years ago) link
I suppose I was born to advocate for drunk Axl in the graveyard blizzard, bottle in one hand gun in the otherhttps://i.gifer.com/YIJx.gif
― billstevejim, Monday, 21 March 2022 04:17 (two years ago) link
ok so i accidentally posted my ballot in the voting thread, here it is for posterity
my ballot. hastily assembled after a perusal of the noms list. obv many things i forgot, but the only one i left out that would've been in my top ten is the pharcyde's "drop."
rankedWu-Tang Clan - TriumphMadonna - VogueJanet Jackson - When I Think Of YouDavid Bowie - BlackstarMissy Elliott - The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)Busta Rhymes - Woo-Hah!! Got You All in CheckTom Petty & the Heartbreakers - Don't Come Around Here No MoreHot Chip - I Feel BetterBat for Lashes - What's a Girl to Do?UGK - International Players Anthem (I Choose You)
unranked2 Chainz - Birthday SongAphex Twin - WindowlickerAvalanches - Frontier PsychiatristBeastie Boys - SabotageBeyoncé - FormationBjörk - Human BehaviourBob Dylan - Subterranean Homesick BluesBritney Spears - ...Baby One More TimeCardi B ft. Megan Thee Stallion - W.A.P. Danny Brown - Grown UpDmx - Ruff Ryders AnthemDonnie Trumpet & the Social Experiment - Sunday CandyE-40 - Tell Me When to GoFiona Apple - CriminalGeorge Michael - Freedom! '90Ice Cube - It Was a Good DayJay-Z - 99 ProblemsKanye West - All Falls DownKendrick Lamar - AlrightKing Von - Took Her to the OLauryn Hill - Doo Wop (That Thing)Mariah Carey - Fantasy (Remix) ft. Ol’ Dirty BastardMclusky - Lightsabre Cocksucking BluesMichael Jackson - Beat ItNine Inch Nails - CloserNirvana - Smells Like Teen SpiritNotorious B.I.G. - Mo Money Mo ProblemsOutkast - Hey Ya!Radiohead - JustRolling Stones - Waiting on a FriendRosalía - MalamenteSinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 USlick Rick - Children's StorySoul II Soul - Back to Life (However Do You Want Me)Tears for Fears - Head Over HeelsVan Halen - Hot for TeacherWeird Al Yankovic - White and NerdyWhite Stripes - Fell in Love with a GirlYoung Dolph - Get PaidZZ Top - Rough Boy
― roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Monday, 21 March 2022 04:58 (two years ago) link
you and i def had some crossover
― jammin on the dud (Spottie), Monday, 21 March 2022 16:17 (two years ago) link
you picked a lot that i cut, like that ludacris video and yonkers
― roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Monday, 21 March 2022 16:40 (two years ago) link
Unranked list
5 UNLISTED:
Kendrick Lamar - King KuntaMadonna - Open Your HeartAnnie Lennox - Walking onBroken GlassMadonna - Like a PrayerYo La Tengo - From a Motel 6
45 Main List (unranked)
2Pac + Dre - California loveA- Ha Take On MeAvalanches - Frontier Psychiatrist beastie Boys - sabotagebeyoncé - formation bjork - all is full of loveblink 182- all the small thingschris sisal - wicked gameDire Straits - Money for NothingDre - nuthin but a g thangduran duran - hungry like the wolfFine Young Cannibals - She Drives Me CrazyGarbage - QueerGeorge Michael - Freedom! '90George Michael - Too FunkyIce Cube - It Was a Good DayJay-Z - 99 ProblemsJon Spencer Blues Explosion - Talk About the BluesKylie Minogue - Love at First SightLady Gaga - Bad RomanceLonely Island - Ras TrentMadonna - VogueMeat Loaf - I'd Do Anything for Love (But I Won't Do That)Missy Elliott - The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)Nine Inch Nails - CloserNotorious B.I.G. - Mo Money Mo ProblemsOl' Dirty Bastard - Shimmy Shimmy YaPaula Abdul - Straight UpPavement - Range LifePeter Gabriel - SledgehammerPrince & the Revolution - When Doves CryReplacements - Bastards of YoungRobert Palmer - Addicted to LoveRoots - Don’t Say Nuthin’Smashing Pumpkins - 1979Smashing Pumpkins - Tonight, TonightSnoop Dogg - Gin & JuiceSoundgarden - Black Hole SunTom Petty & the Heartbreakers - Mary Jane's Last DanceTom Petty & the Heartbreakers - Don't Come Around Here No MoreTool - SoberVan Halen - Hot for TeacherWax - CaliforniaWeird Al Yankovic - FatZZ Top - Legs
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 21 March 2022 17:04 (two years ago) link
just rewatched 2pac/scarface 'smile' and was curious who directed it.
Paul Hunter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hunter_(director)
forgot about usher 'my way'. also that black eyed peas 'joints and jams' was a fav of mine at that time.
― jammin on the dud (Spottie), Monday, 21 March 2022 17:04 (two years ago) link
paul hunter videography genuinely ridiculous
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 21 March 2022 17:07 (two years ago) link
truly. we shoulda just polled him and hype williams videos.
― jammin on the dud (Spottie), Monday, 21 March 2022 17:15 (two years ago) link
Forgot another early one that I really enjoy: the Stones' Jumpin' Jack Flash, though there are a few variants. It got a restoration that looked awesome when I saw it at MoMA's program celebrating the Stones' 50th anniversary, but I don't think it was officially made available for home viewing outside of its usage in the so-so Crossfire Hurricane documentary. The only place I can find it online is on Facebook, though you don't need an account to view it.
― birdistheword, Monday, 21 March 2022 18:00 (two years ago) link
My unranked ballot:
Tom Tom Club - Genius of LoveYo La Tengo - I'll Be AroundA Tribe Called Quest - Electric RelaxationAnn Steel - My TimeAphex Twin - Come to DaddyAutechre - Gantz GrafBeck - DeadweightBjörk - Human BehaviourBjörk - Triumph of a HeartCabaret Voltaire - SensoriaCarly Simon - WhyChemical Brothers - Let Forever BeChemical Brothers - Star GuitarCibo Matto - Sugar WaterCléo - Les FauvesCure - Close to MeDaft Punk - Around the WorldDe La Soul - A Roller Skating Jam Named SaturdaysDeee-Lite - Groove Is in the HeartFall - Eat Y'Self FitterFrance Gall - Laisse tomber les fillesKate Bush - Wuthering Heights (trees version)Kate Bush - Wuthering Heights (trails version)Kraftwerk - Musique Non-StopKylie Minogue - Come Into My WorldLio - Sage Comme Une ImageLucas - Lucas with the Lid OffMadonna - FrozenMick Jagger - Memo from TurnerMoloko - The FlipsidePet Shop Boys - HeartPet Shop Boys - West End GirlsPortishead - Only YouRoisin Murphy - OverpoweredSaint Etienne - Only Love Can Break Your HeartSerge Gainsbourg & Jane Birkin - 69 année érotiqueSerge Gainsbourg & Brigitte Bardot - Bonnie and ClydeSiouxsie & the Banshees - SpellboundSparks - When Do I Get to Sing 'My Way’?Sparks - When I'm With YouTalking Heads - Love for SaleTears for Fears - Head Over HeelsTodd Terje - Inspector NorseMoloko - Fun for MeOneohtrix Point Never - Problem AreasBoards of Canada - Everything You Do Is a BalloonTrans-X - Living on VideoRonika - WiyooStice - OllygoshawdaScott Walker - Epizootics!
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Monday, 21 March 2022 19:23 (two years ago) link
Thanks Clemenza, Viborg, anyone else with a role, co-voters! A sign of a comprehensive and significant poll is that some people are a bit miffed with the results. (If it wasn't comprehensive they wouldn't have heard of it; if it wasn't significant they wouldn't have cared.)
― anatol_merklich, Monday, 21 March 2022 23:36 (two years ago) link
I will probably go through all of the top 100 at some point in the next month. Grateful that an all time video list finally happened here, and just as I was hoping, the stuff I haven't seen yet (so far) is all really bizarre and interesting. I wouldn't call a lot of these worthy of an all time list, but for me that's not really the point.
I totally forgot about that Hot Chip video. But it also reminds me of the Beach House video with Ray Wise that I was so sure would place.
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 02:11 (two years ago) link
I know the song, and I figure I must have seen some of the video at some point, but the revelation of the poll for me was "Unfinished Sympathy".
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 02:30 (two years ago) link
I was a #1 vote for "Sabotage" btw, didn't see the email. Given that my son makes me play him that video over and over again, it definitely has legs.
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 14:16 (two years ago) link
I feel like I could make a separate list of "movie scenes that I wish could be music videos."
Andy Warhol's Vinyl for Martha Reeves & The Vandellas' "Nowhere to Run"
James Benning's 11 x 14 for Bob Dylan's "Black Diamond Bay" (two scenes actually)
Martin Scorsese's Mean Streets and GoodFellas for "Then He Kissed Me," "Mickey's Monkey," "What Is Life," "Jumping Jack Flash," "Atlantis" and probably many others
Kenneth Anger's Scorpio Rising for "He's a Rebel"
etc.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 14:35 (two years ago) link
"Subterranean Homesick Blues" in this list is one example. I feel like part of the attraction of scenes like that is that they're not independent works; the songs come in, blend with the movie and leave. Watching them on their own feels like it's inflating them somehow.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 14:57 (two years ago) link
I've written a book on the subject (pop music in films), and my interest in the two subjects is connected I'm sure. (Another voter has also written a book on the subject...I won't link to his without checking.)
― clemenza, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 15:16 (two years ago) link
But then Kenneth Anger's use of the Paris Sisters' "Dream Lover" in Kustom Kar Kommandos strikes me as a special case because it's not an excerpt from the film, it's the entire film. I didn't vote for it bc I was trying to honor the distinction between that and videos that were made to promote a record, but I guess that is the principal difference between that and, say, Bruce Conner's film for "Mongoloid" by Devo.
― Josefa, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 15:25 (two years ago) link
the subterranean “video” has surely been seen by far more people than the entirety of don’t look back, and certainly passes the iconicity test (based on how often it’s been parodied and imitated)
it’s a bit different from scenes from narrative films that prominently use a song
― roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 15:31 (two years ago) link
To me, "Subterranean Homesick Blues" works fine as a (legitimate) standalone video. If Don't Look Back didn't exist, but MTV had existed in 1965, I could see where Dylan would have come up with exactly the same thing as his idea of what a video should look like.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 15:43 (two years ago) link
(The "Like a Rolling Stone" video that I voted for, which was probably done six or seven years ago, I would love to know the extent of Dylan's involvement with that. Other than commissioning and ultimately approving it, my guess is nil--I just can't imagine him coming up with anything like what materialized.)
― clemenza, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 15:53 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2af69xt0VKE
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 15:56 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gib916jJW1o
― ledge, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 15:58 (two years ago) link
I think Bob Roberts came out before "Subterranean" became an "official" video, so I vaguely remember being thrilled just to see the Don't Look Back sequence referenced. (Didn't care for the film at the time, got better when I watched it years later.) Looking at it now, it's just weird that the women look like the Robert Palmer women--reference overload.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 18:07 (two years ago) link
Bob Roberts did it a few years after INXS iirc
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 18:13 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUQDzj6R3p4
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 18:14 (two years ago) link
The Maxell advert is one of the best TV adverts of all time. There’s another one which uses Desmond Dekker’s ‘Israelites’ along same lines to diminishing returns.
― Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 18:55 (two years ago) link
That would be this, then. As with “Into The Valley”, I could never hear the track the same way again.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KShjB5jyjM
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 23:57 (two years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Lucero
realized while watching the video for the odb remix of "woo-hah got you all in check" that i love this dude's work, always creative if on a more modest level than say a hype williams, sucks he died so young. tha alkaholiks video he did ("the next level") is pretty much as good as "'93 til infinity"
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 15:11 (two years ago) link
oh yeah thats a good videography. he loved him some contrast.
― jammin on the dud (Spottie), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 18:38 (two years ago) link
kush is a GREAT video
― jammin on the dud (Spottie), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 18:39 (two years ago) link
this one too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5xJBKVGTGs
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 18:52 (two years ago) link
always loved the song/video for xzibit's "paparazzi"
xp lol
― roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 18:53 (two years ago) link
this is making me want to do a poll for just hip-hop music videos
― jammin on the dud (Spottie), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 20:45 (two years ago) link
would participate
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 March 2022 16:19 (two years ago) link
after i finished my ballot i made a youtube playlist of it, then i had the bright idea to expand it to 100 places, so here's the finished product:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlRIBtlBJdQ_IZV5yzhr1MnbzHhjbes9-
pretty proud of it, very rewarding project! i've wanted to do something like this since youtube first came into existence and now a majority of the videos have hd upgrades
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 March 2022 16:20 (two years ago) link
that link doesn't work because of the weird hyphen at the end, so here's the real link:
brad's all-time top 100 favorite music videos ever
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 March 2022 16:22 (two years ago) link
Good selecting. I'm happy anyone else has seen and loves "Y Control."
― billstevejim, Thursday, 24 March 2022 16:32 (two years ago) link