Led Zeppelin: Classic Or Dud?

it's their _lack_ of concision that allowed them to really stretch out, their willingness to be interminably shitty (and their fans' toleration of same) that has led to their accomplishing greater things than many of their "classic rock" contemporaries.

I think one problem with Zep is that they didn’t have the time to seriously jell as a stretching-out live unit. The Who and the Dead had a few heavy-touring years on Zep, and while there are certainly some gloriously expansive live Zep moments — the Supershow D&C is my favorite Zeppelin moment ever — they didn’t have those years under their belts that give so many bands a sixth sense of “Oh, we’re going there? Got it” in extended live situations.

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ftr Keith Richards was NOT a fan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQePSwNkvbA

Damn transcribed that wrong

Zep vs Stones poll

Townshend didn't like Zeppelin either: “I don't like a single thing that they have done, I hate the fact that I'm ever even slightly compared to them.” He continued, through gritted teeth and an angered perspective: “I just never ever liked them."

Sore loser

Not really. I made this point on another thread, but the Who and Zep were such different animals, and I agree with Townshend in not understanding why the two bands are always compared. There is nothing in Zep’s oeuvre remotely equivalent to “Happy Jack”; there is nothing in the Who’s catalog that bears the the slightest resemblance to “Since I’ve Been Loving You.”

The Who were quirky and awkward; Zep were the antithesis of quirky and awkward.

Ugh

And while Pete may be jealous of Zep’s commercial success — which was indeed vastly greater than the Who’s — it was Page who (ALLEGEDLY) faked a back injury to get out of opening for the Who in 2000 (when he was touring with the Black Crowes).

Now I want to hear 1970 Zep perform an eight-minute plodding blues shuffle about furry donkeys.

We’re gonna grove is so good, not sure there’s a need for anything else

I like to imagine zeppelin trying to capture the stones shambolic rhythm on something like “under my thumb” . maybe “Dancing days” is the closest they came

misty mountain hop

Hearing stories about Jimmy Miller teaching Watts to play this part or playing that part himself makes me think the Stones were a bit of a shambles too

For whatever reason, Watts sometimes had trouble dealing with phrasing that was on an off-beat. Here it takes him a solid two minutes to find the one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSGk3LeM56E

Townshend didn't like Zeppelin either: “I don't like a single thing that they have done, I hate the fact that I'm ever even slightly compared to them.” He continued, through gritted teeth and an angered perspective: “I just never ever liked them."

― Halfway there but for you

you think he hates zep, you should hear how he feels about roger daltrey

Was at a bar last night and either because it was a slow night or the end of a long night, the bartender was getting a little goofy with the music selection. Deltron to Smiths to Joe Walsh to Beastie Boys to Misfits to Gary Numan to the Who. Out of nowhere he leans over to my buddy and I and says "OK, ready for a challenge?" We say sure. He says "if either of you can guess the next song, you get a pint on me." We say sounds good, hit it! He starts the track and it's just a drum groove. But after a second we both go "well, it's John Bonham ..." and I add "... from 'Coda.'" And the guy just lights up! "'Bonzo's Montreux'! You're the first ones to get it in the three years I've been working here." He takes out two pint glasses. "What'll you have?"

kind of stunned this isn’t a story from 1995.

You can tell it was contemporary because the bartender was wearing a Britney Spears shirt.

Wait idgi what screams "1995" about that story?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv89klR8u8Q

“It’s quite an amazing feeling to be awake in the daytime”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g8Dq45nZOI

This homemade doc is a little all over the place but still enjoyable

Speaking of King Crimson, whatever happened to the official LZ doc?

One thing this post breakup docu series is that jimmy and Robert should have retired when LZ ended

Ugh … one thing it makes clear

Townshend didn't like Zeppelin either: “I don't like a single thing that they have done, I hate the fact that I'm ever even slightly compared to them.” He continued, through gritted teeth and an angered perspective: “I just never ever liked them."

I remember he had similar things to say about The Jam.

What series?

Jcm on YouTube

That long shot of Bobby on the game show…for real

xxxp That's weird because Paul Weller was invited as a guest to their 2000 Royal Albert benefit show and both he and Townshend basically played an acoustic duet together with no one else.

I suppose money time heals all wounds, I don't know.

Ugh who gives a shit about the who take it to the who thread

Who are you?

Who who

Who who

Lol

I really wanna know

Plant has had a great career

Page really hasn't done much music

it's crazy how little jimmy has done. one studio LP and one live LP with plant, coverdale/page, death wish II, outrider.

Two LPs with The Firm, the live double with the Black Crowes

Good for him It’s not like he’s going to write another middle section from in the light

Jimmy's ready for Spinal Tap here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3973tfsllqw

Shit I meat 1O years gone

Jimmy's ready for Spinal Tap here:

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I was gonna say, I think the years of drink and drugs took their toll.

idk i feel like percy's done pretty well? nothing earth-shattering, but nothing embarrassing. heard stories that he's a nice guy

He and Jones have come through it much better.

Page was pretty busy in the '80s...in addition to the aforementioned stuff, the was the Honeydrippers EP, not to mention this meeting of the minds...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpL-eVpgJpY

Shoulda retired

Courtesy of Gioia's honorable mention EOY list, this is a pretty creditable cover:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNgQtP4zk5E