I agree with that— I think that sometimes that vibe is something I seek in music, and sometimes it isn’t. The ‘artifice’ of “The Sound” in particular is what sold me initially— it felt reflexive rather than smirking.
― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Friday, 24 June 2022 01:22 (two years ago) link
Very well put, 2020 Tim
― Vinnie, Friday, 24 June 2022 01:45 (two years ago) link
https://www.instagram.com/p/CfWqEhTMdWO/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=instant classic incoming?
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 June 2022 15:49 (two years ago) link
what they haven't cracked over here is the funko collector prestige crowd that makes its aesthetic around like ... tyler, lana, frank, these kinds of tasteful "Real Music", doesn't stream as much as you'd think but sells a shitton of vinyl and concert tickets
mostly agreed here, but they were headlining arenas when they last did a u.s. run in 2019, so they probably sell pretty well.
― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 16:34 (two years ago) link
yeah, not calling anyone wrong or right, and obviously there are still levels for this band to obtain, but calling them relatively obscure doesn't really track, i don't think. if they can play basketball arenas in midsized American towns, they're doing pretty good!
― alpine static, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 16:56 (two years ago) link
🎵 she was part of the airforce // i was part of the band // i always used to bust into her hand 🎵
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 28 June 2022 17:22 (two years ago) link
Don’t be a leaker, Kevin
― Tim F, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 20:39 (two years ago) link
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CfXRQYIs6nP/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=another neo-soul type song?
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 28 June 2022 21:58 (two years ago) link
these lyrics…. never change matty healy
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 22:33 (two years ago) link
I have a weird feeling that IG snippet is a misdirect
― Murgatroid, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 01:30 (two years ago) link
i’ve heard the new music is “pop” but given their nature i ultimately don’t really know what that means
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 June 2022 01:43 (two years ago) link
11 tracks!!! being funny in a foreign language!!!
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 11:42 (two years ago) link
preposterous album title that fits right in with the last three preposterous albums titles
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 11:44 (two years ago) link
i thought they'd teased that as a song title years ago but i checked and it might have been a working title for "bagsy not in net"?
weird that they're putting out a normal-sized album
― ufo, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 12:44 (two years ago) link
I'd be disappointed if the album titles weren't ridiculous.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 12:47 (two years ago) link
To my mind, one difference between Yorke (circa OK Computer) and Healy is that, while Yorke probably would have told people he was full of shit if asked, he always performed/performs the songs very seriously. Matt meanwhile has almost constructed a performative persona around being in on the joke, kind of “don’t believe anything you hear, and least of all this”. It really struck me when I saw a TV show performance of “The Sound” a few years back and Matt sang the song like he was doing a karaoke performance of someone else’s tune, which, conceptually he kind of was? And that is very present at the songwriting level - for example, I cannot think of a band or artist who has written more songs structured as conversations between unreliable narrators.
Considered objectively, this should perhaps make Matt less of a fraud than Thom (though the entire question of “is this fraudulent” is dumb and unhelpful in any event), but I think a lot of people hear Matt’s coded “I am full of shit” messaging and mistake it for something they have worked out for themselves, congratulating themselves for perceiving a kind of fakeness/shallowness to the pseudo-profundity as if that wasn’t precisely the vibe that Matt had been seeking to convey.
― Tim F, Thursday, 20 February 2020
otm. I'd add: "ILMers hear the irony and distance, the 18-to-25 y/olds I know hear a shambolic goofball having fun."
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 12:48 (two years ago) link
being good at both of those does sum up healy's appeal
― ufo, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 13:07 (two years ago) link
Faintly hoping that one of these songs is like 20 minutes long
― J. Sam, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 18:06 (two years ago) link
i have no idea if 11 tracks w/ no experiments/filler (i say filler with love) would be a good thing or a bad thing.
i used to want that from them, but now i feel like 19 tracks w/ filler is part of the charm.
― alpine static, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 18:28 (two years ago) link
yeah unlike everyone else on earth i was looking forward to a double album
just speculation but i hope j0rd is right about the neo-soul vibe he got from the sample
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 18:33 (two years ago) link
i too have come to love the absurd length of their albums but they've always talked about how the first four albums are part of one "era" and i'm excited to see all the ways they might be moving in a new direction, concision included. the track titles seem to imply some greater degree of simplicity/straightforwardness which, along with the concise tracklist, could be part of what they mean by "pop" (a more digestible package, fewer experimental detours)
― caulk the wagon and float it, Thursday, 30 June 2022 02:32 (two years ago) link
they've done the wild expansive 80-minute album twice now so i'm fine with them putting out something more focused as a change of pace
― ufo, Thursday, 30 June 2022 06:50 (two years ago) link
the debut's songtitles were mostly one word and it was incredibly annoying
― imago, Thursday, 30 June 2022 07:53 (two years ago) link
I also would like to see what they do with a tightly focused album, as much as I loved the last one
― Vinnie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 10:20 (two years ago) link
what if half of those 11 tracks are long instrumental interludes
― Murgatroid, Thursday, 30 June 2022 12:21 (two years ago) link
In a perhaps similar vein, I would be happy with this being their “focused” “pop” album if that means it is their Hats.
― Tim F, Thursday, 30 June 2022 13:30 (two years ago) link
In a perhaps similar vein, I would be happy with this being their “focused” “pop” album if that means it is their Hats.― Tim F
― Tim F
this would be a dream come true.
― Nourry, Thursday, 30 June 2022 15:14 (two years ago) link
he's occasionally used hats as a reference point for wanting to make a more concise album someday
― ufo, Thursday, 30 June 2022 15:16 (two years ago) link
the sophistipop illmatic
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Friday, 1 July 2022 02:36 (two years ago) link
album out Oct. 14
― Murgatroid, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 19:10 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87nG3LuabUs
doesn’t premiere for another 22 hours but posting this here anyway
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 19:13 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9EBhaULToU
22 hours???? but i want it nowwwww
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 19:18 (two years ago) link
https://cdn.britannica.com/81/175581-050-1A5A4E20/scene-The-Seventh-Seal-Ingmar-Bergman.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 19:18 (two years ago) link
i like the song a lot but wow this is deeply perplexing choice for a lead single
― Murgatroid, Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:06 (two years ago) link
it's so indie rock! they went to the pinegrove show
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:06 (two years ago) link
this is deeply perplexing choice for a lead single
― Murgatroid, Thursday, July 7, 2022 1:06 PM (twenty-four seconds ago)bookmarkflaglink
based on "give yourself a try" and "people" it seems like the first one from a new album is always a bit of a fake out now
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:08 (two years ago) link
perplexing not so much in aesthetic but this is clearly such an album track, at least those two you mentioned seemed like singles, y'know?
― Murgatroid, Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:12 (two years ago) link
4:20 blaze it
― J. Sam, Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:33 (two years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:39 (two years ago) link
i always thought "road kill" sounded like a pinegrove song with a beautiful softrock chorus
― Heez, Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:40 (two years ago) link
listening to Matty on BBC and he said he didn't want it to be too flashy but still be a statement
success
― Murgatroid, Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:43 (two years ago) link
oh lol Jack Antonoff is on the album
― Murgatroid, Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:45 (two years ago) link
it’s gorgeous
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 July 2022 17:58 (two years ago) link
the strings are v Arthur Russell
― Murgatroid, Thursday, 7 July 2022 18:05 (two years ago) link
i would not be mad if they made a sufjan stevens album lol
― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 7 July 2022 18:06 (two years ago) link
the strings made me think of coldplay lol
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, 7 July 2022 18:09 (two years ago) link
It sounds a bit too much to bon iver, but I'll give it time
― Nourry, Thursday, 7 July 2022 18:42 (two years ago) link
who is bon iver
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 July 2022 18:48 (two years ago) link
totally sounds Pinegrove-ish
― alpine static, Thursday, 7 July 2022 18:50 (two years ago) link
michelle zauner sings back up on the chorus
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 7 July 2022 19:19 (two years ago) link