thread to dis hyped releases that you don't get/don't like/wanna complain about

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I like that one Beyonce song that goes "You must not know 'bout me" (ie "Irreplaceable", I looked it up)

o. nate, Friday, 24 June 2022 03:32 (two years ago) link

Austin does not like new song by artist he never ever liked
She's 40, maybe you can give her a break, or not bother to tell us ?

Nabozo, Friday, 24 June 2022 05:14 (two years ago) link

Beyonce is fine and I love some of her jams. The problem is the stans on Twitter who somehow think people are always trying to tear her down, when she probably has the most goodwill of any artist in the world.

cooldix, Friday, 24 June 2022 06:17 (two years ago) link

Turnstile is hot garbage.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 24 June 2022 06:55 (two years ago) link

maybe you can give her a break, or not bother to tell us ?

[checks notes] This is the "thread to dis hyped releases that you don't get/don't like/wanna complain about", right?

Vast Halo, Friday, 24 June 2022 07:12 (two years ago) link

Aldous Harding's songs are boring and her phony voices are irritating. Don't understand the critical love.

The Ghost Club, Friday, 24 June 2022 12:07 (two years ago) link

^massive agree

imago, Friday, 24 June 2022 12:12 (two years ago) link

in my head she is Weyes Bloodless

imago, Friday, 24 June 2022 12:12 (two years ago) link

"say my name" is literally fucking nested with tunes, you're just being obtuse on purpose

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 24 June 2022 14:31 (two years ago) link

I just heard the 1975, someone threadban me before this gets ugly

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Sunday, 26 June 2022 15:32 (two years ago) link

this is a safe space

thinkmanship (sleeve), Sunday, 26 June 2022 15:36 (two years ago) link

Well (bites tongue hard) it felt super weird to realize halfway through that this is not a song from the 1980s

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Sunday, 26 June 2022 15:48 (two years ago) link

It's the uncanny valley phenomenon of mistaking something dead for something alive. I used to think this kind of stuff was just necrophilia but it's creeping me out that we can't tell if there's a pulse or not.

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Sunday, 26 June 2022 15:51 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Wet Leg.

This isn't a Bad Bunny situation. This isn't a bunch of genres I'm unfamiliar with and I'm not having to make a hairpin reappraisal. This is what I grew up on. I'd say I'm well-placed to be the critic.

Opening track is slight enough to escape much censure even as it rides a bunch of irritating vocal mannerisms over a basic melody.

Second track is my least favourite EOY track winner except maybe Girl Unit and at least that was a Weird, very then-ILM choice. I said it at the time: extremely standard indie with slightly elevated presentation. Nuts and bolts bassline, a wisp of a riff, preppy spoken vox, ooh-naughty lyrics. Stinks of 2007. You people are a disgrace

Third track is actually quite good, even if I've definitely heard this riff or variants of it a zillion times over. They're singing without so many annoying affectations for a start (although the coy yelping does return at points, and the main singer's voice is always just a little bit Newsom iykwim), and there's a nice shoegazey texture to it all. Me and maximalism eh

Fourth track jacks The Man Who Sold The World for fuck's sake. Like, not even disguised. Voice less annoying in this one and there's a semblance of trying to use more than two chords. Minor chords even!

The next track is far too pleased with itself, to the extent where it repeats lines it's particularly proud of. A slick single that honestly doesn't have anything going for it that a myriad - a MYRIAD - of British indie from the last 20 years doesn't

I'll say this, though - they're wily enough to keep it all short.

Track 6 is, what have I got written here. 'Dull'. I don't think they're very good at songwriting tbh. Their talent lies in an instinct for, idk, slogans? Bright, clean, crisp production? That's not their work though. Slogans it is

Track 7 has the best lyrics ever, as discussed. What's a girl to do indeed?? They've run out of melodic juice too btw

Track 8 LITERALLY REUSES THAT ANGELICA RIFF! It's like they panicked about having to actually do an album and didn't realise they were just repeating ideas! There's one almost-okay guitar melody and one welcome gesture towards metal at least.

Track 9 is borderline unforgivable. If you want to hear this kind of thing done not only forgivably but well, I recommend the band Audiobooks, and not for the first time either

Track 10 is like, soooo relatable yeah! Oh, *I* fucked it up this time, oh my god, such introspection. Cogs turning...let's have a slower, sadder one here...bet the next one's really peppy and all

Yeah, here are Those Three Chords that mean Happiness. Chorus has a Joyous Affectation. Honestly, this is all so cynically put together. Even has those 00s backing vocals. Ohhh-ehhh-whoooa. Oh keep in that studio laugh, it sounds so natural!!

Final track, yeah let's have a slower one to end on, epic yeah. You know it's the slower epic one because she's singing one syllable at a time, really slowly! That bassline, let's call it the King Of Carrot Flowers Part 1 Bassline, has probably appeared what...five times on this album so far? There are NO IDEAS. Ooh, a post-rocky bit of course, I could have told you it was going to sound like this. It's a facsimile of a facsimile, a record almost entirely devoid of inspiration. It is cheap slogans over BILGE. And it ends with a whimper.

Tracks 3 and 4 were okay. Tracks 2 and 5, the singles, were slick (I don't like them though). The rest is just not even there. Shame on you all tbh. If this makes the EOY top ten we're truly lost

imago, Thursday, 28 July 2022 19:28 (two years ago) link

The fucking insulting thing is that so many UK indie bands have struggled for years and years making amazing music to almost no financial or critical avail, and these artistically bankrupt chancers get huge on the first roll. That's what galls. And I don't care if you like them either. You've never heard the good stuff. It's outside of your wheelhouse, I get it. You'd have no reason to. Yes, this is bitter, yes this is bad-spirited, yes Wet Leg seem to have an instinct for cheap slogans that people seem to prefer to, y'know, actual music. But I don't like injustice, what can I say

imago, Thursday, 28 July 2022 19:44 (two years ago) link

out of interest, what's the Angelica riff?

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 28 July 2022 19:56 (two years ago) link

The riff of the third track, Angelica

imago, Thursday, 28 July 2022 20:30 (two years ago) link

oh right. thought you were talking about the band Angelica.

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 28 July 2022 20:35 (two years ago) link

I mean, please use other chords, but that does have a certain homespun charm conspicuously absent...elsewhere

imago, Thursday, 28 July 2022 20:55 (two years ago) link

oh right. thought you were talking about the band Angelica.

― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, July 28, 2022 4:35 PM (fifty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol same 🙀☠️

It's been a really long time since I felt the kind of angst about the chaff rising that imago described. But i listened to "Angelica" by Wet Leg and I feel like this song is to "fun" what Imagine Dragons are to "athletic triumph" or w/e. It's not as grating to me as Chaise Longue but it's a lot blander?

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 28 July 2022 21:56 (two years ago) link

Stinks of 2007. You people are a disgrace

new board description please

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 28 July 2022 22:41 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JObZ7JIV_E

thinkmanship (sleeve), Thursday, 28 July 2022 23:16 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

ILM is an embarrassment

imago, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 16:32 (two years ago) link

dead-eyed corporate pop behemoth queen billion the focus-grouped merely has to twitch her signet ring and the fanboys & girls slaver for more, even mocking an actual artist-of-consequence for having announced the same release date first. repugnant and unseemly

imago, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 16:36 (two years ago) link

why yes I would love a stan war

imago, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 16:37 (two years ago) link

Which is the artist of consequence?

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 16:40 (two years ago) link

CRJ, of course

imago, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 16:42 (two years ago) link

I don't think I saw any CRJ mocking on the thread, not that I read it very closely

It is definitely a lot of posts for something that barely exists yet. I'm in the perpetual idgi camp re TS, but tbf I find her extremely easy to ignore outside of ILM these days.

But cheer up! there's a new Dawn Richard album out 10/21 as well

rob, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 16:43 (two years ago) link

I heard the preview tracks! Feels like it is one extended piece, so hard to judge it on the opening stretch alone, but intrigued to hear it all, yes

imago, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 16:49 (two years ago) link

soft pink truth double-lp too

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 16:49 (two years ago) link

Usually post-rocky ambient classical isn't my bag, but DR writing and arranging vocals could easily alchemise that into something marvellous

imago, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 16:50 (two years ago) link

new arctic monkeys is also apparently coming out on 10/21 lol

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 16:55 (two years ago) link

lmao oh shit

did quite like the new single

imago, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 16:56 (two years ago) link

you heard it here first, october 21 is ilm day

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 16:58 (two years ago) link

if taytay had named her new album 'the car' i might have cut the hype parade some slack, but it's some hallmark bs as usual

imago, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 16:58 (two years ago) link

ppl care about this way less but the new tegan & sara also comes out 10/21. literally gonna be the stupidest day of the year for me

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 17:24 (two years ago) link

No one mocked CRJ in that thread, wth

“ILM is a disgrace, allow me to manufacture a grievance against my fellow posters to illustrate this point”

Porcine-lina of the Pig Oceans (morrisp), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 18:42 (two years ago) link

I'm already sick of hearing about the new Arctic Monkeys. I haven't heard it but I know I won't like it, because curmudgeon.

The Ghost Club, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 01:19 (two years ago) link

Wow, can't wait to dis the living crap outta a couple of these

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 01:34 (two years ago) link

imo muna are extremely corny

― flamenco drop (BradNelson)

Couldn't agree more. As a queer woman I felt obliged to give the new album a chance but it's just so painful. Silk Chiffon is a terrible single too. Yuck.

The Ghost Club, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 01:45 (two years ago) link

I’m kind of with imago here— I feel like there’s an entire realm of ILM that I cannot access because I read these reviews and listen to the songs and can’t figure out why everyone loves trash. (I do love CRJ tho mostly because of one or two songs, I don’t “follow” or “stan” her).

it’s fine tho— we don’t all need to love the same stuff! however, i sort of do think it would be nice to have EOTY polls for music that isn’t pop— or maybe exclude certain things from our 77. last year’s album and tracks rollout left me depressed as hell.

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Saturday, 3 September 2022 11:30 (two years ago) link

(I think) I love pop music, but find both CRJ and Taylor just leave me cold. There's something about them that's so mainstream AOR-radio ready, there's nothing wrong there but no edge to it, nothing that hooks me.

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 3 September 2022 12:01 (two years ago) link

crj isn't exactly known for her radio success in the last decade to be fair

ufo, Saturday, 3 September 2022 12:12 (two years ago) link

yeah I know nothing about what is actually played on the radio tbh

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 3 September 2022 12:16 (two years ago) link

ilm is still a treasure but yeah the overall year best of playlists sound like something Starbucks would release. i think they key is appreciating pop qua craft rather than art: that’s been the poptimist slide during the 10s

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Saturday, 3 September 2022 12:52 (two years ago) link

looking back, it was Akeelah and the Bee OST taking AOTY in 2006

look like Farley smoke like Marley (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 3 September 2022 13:34 (two years ago) link

I will never not have difficulty imagining the middle aged people on here who used to post about Mobb Deep, Archers of Loaf and / or Ornette Coleman sitting at home by themselves listening to CRJ

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 3 September 2022 13:47 (two years ago) link

There's something endearingly hilarious about a decade and a half of voracious listening and critical discussion on ILM culminating in devotion to polite pseudo-pop by white Northern women. xp!

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 3 September 2022 13:48 (two years ago) link

For me I can’t shake the hang up I have believing every meticulous detail of major pop records is coldly orchestrated by a team of marketers. I work in CPG package design for corporate snack brands and 100% of the brand and product is crafted with the intent to appeal to the broadest demographic possible. Similarly, the pop star’s story or album context reads like the romance copy on a box of crackers to me, and the music is produced in such a way that it sounds like it is pitching to be used in a TV commercial. So there’s something soulless about it. Hopefully this doesn’t just sound like a repackaging of the tired “authenticity” complaint, it’s more like that feeling where an advertisement is trying to trick me or something. Idk.

Evan, Saturday, 3 September 2022 13:54 (two years ago) link


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