Guitars... what you've got / what you want

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I recall seeing an extremely satisfying video a while back of Gibson destroying hundreds of its stupid robot guitars

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/gibson_destroys_hundreds_of_firebird_x_guitars_issues_statement_on_why_it_had_to_be_done.html

Generally agree that a $300ish guitar right now is light-years better than anything available to me as a kid. Yr Squiers and Mexifenders are pretty consistently dependable. Most bedroom players don't need anything else. Heck, even most gigging musicians would be able to get through a show without embarrassment on a reasonably well-set-up Epi or whatever.

Not sure about how to address Philip's overall economic point - that is, why do they keep making these perfectly adequate guitars if there isn't a continually expanding market. Maybe there is? Or maybe there are a just a whole lot of neon-colored Ibanezes sitting in suburban attics. When the insectoid aliens finally invade and take over, perhaps they will assume we worshipped a six-stringed god called Floyd Rose.

blissfully unawarewolf (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 20:52 (two years ago) link

Surprisingly there are only 35 Squier listings on my Craigslist - not surprisingly they're all priced way too high when you can go get one from Guitar Center with a 10% off coupon pretty easily. So they'll sit in closets and attics forever until they end up at Goodwill or a garage sale and go to someone like the hoarder upthread who had a hundred beginners guitars in his garage.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 21:59 (two years ago) link

13 years ago the Bass VI was unobtainable and I decided to try to make one by hacking a shortscale Jazz Bass neck and looking for a body. Then I decided it should be a "what if" Fender had made a Mustang VI. Then I abandoned the project (several times). After collecting bits in occasional bursts I've now finished hacking the neck and attached it to a Squier Mustang Bass body so it kinda exists now! Lots more work with pickups, pickguard etc and lacquering the neck. But darned if it doesn't play beautifully even in this rough state.
https://i.imgur.com/GT7Kh9w.jpg

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 3 November 2022 02:20 (two years ago) link

that's really cool

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 November 2022 15:08 (two years ago) link

Not quite yet! but thank you and I'm working on it. Insanely light due to the poplar body.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 3 November 2022 21:36 (two years ago) link

but that is really cool! i guess it lacks the killswitch that the vi has, but stick an eq pedal at the start of your chain and you're golden

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 3 November 2022 21:46 (two years ago) link

loving all your cool projects mkkkk

im a beacon of light (Spottie), Thursday, 3 November 2022 21:57 (two years ago) link

well thanks you guys! and NickB it will have a killswitch of sorts, by analogy of the VI/Jaguar relationship I plan to give it the same threeway phase-off-otherphase pickup switches a regular Mustang has. Gotta get a wider control plate and figure out the pickguard properly tho.
https://i.imgur.com/nZesscR.jpg

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 3 November 2022 22:48 (two years ago) link

oh fuck that's gonna rule! :)))

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 3 November 2022 22:59 (two years ago) link

oh sorry actually i meant strangle switch not killswitch, so that you can knock out the bass frequencies

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 3 November 2022 23:01 (two years ago) link

complete jelly brains here this evening

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 3 November 2022 23:02 (two years ago) link

ooh maybe I should do on-off-strangle for the pickup switches!

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 3 November 2022 23:15 (two years ago) link

altho strangle is a Jag thing, plus I actually bought a cheap used VI in the interim …

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 3 November 2022 23:17 (two years ago) link

strangle on a bass vi is a very interesting idea

call all destroyer, Friday, 4 November 2022 00:49 (two years ago) link

lol @ the price but damn what a pretty guitar

https://www.jtkmstudio.com/product-page/1963-64-fender-jaguar-surf-green

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 4 November 2022 01:48 (two years ago) link

strangle on a bass vi is a very interesting idea

It's been standard since 1963 (the first ones just had three pickup switches). The 4th switch here is strangle:
https://i.imgur.com/7He9Zlj.jpg

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 4 November 2022 03:22 (two years ago) link

i didn’t realize that! i thought they just had the individual on/offs.

call all destroyer, Friday, 4 November 2022 12:36 (two years ago) link

it's definitely their secret weapon and the thing that makes them such a killer guitar imo

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 4 November 2022 14:24 (two years ago) link

this dude fascinates me, he's been slowly selling off this huge collection of guitars which might be the least appealing guitar collection ever assembled

https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/search/sss?userpostingid=7553585742

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 November 2022 17:14 (two years ago) link

wow yeah gross lol

im a beacon of light (Spottie), Friday, 4 November 2022 17:19 (two years ago) link

It's like the wall at a weird little music shop that mostly gets by on high school band and orchestra rentals and can't get distribution from Fender or Gibson.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 4 November 2022 17:35 (two years ago) link

haha totally know the type of store you're talking about

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 November 2022 17:41 (two years ago) link

otm

im a beacon of light (Spottie), Friday, 4 November 2022 17:43 (two years ago) link

JAY TURSER VS GREG BENNETT FITE

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 November 2022 17:47 (two years ago) link

totally forgot about samicks lol

call all destroyer, Friday, 4 November 2022 17:50 (two years ago) link

wow ugh, cheap or expensive it’s laser guided bad taste.
Samick: if you’re going to name a signature series after someone, “Greg Bennett” is not a good choice.

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 4 November 2022 19:21 (two years ago) link

The Fender Bass VI is this year's best-selling bass guitar thanks to the Beatles

Online gear retailer Reverb has published its annual list of best-selling bass guitars, with 2022 being dubbed as the year Fender captured the nation's tone. Of course, the old Jazz-versus-Precision debate is timeless. They're both amazing basses, so what could possibly be more popular?

In a surprising turn of events, the Fender Bass VI has ended up the most sought-after bass of the year, taking the top spot over its Jazz and P-Bass rivals.

The sales upset is being attributed to the success of Peter Jackson's The Beatles: Get Back documentary series, which spurred interest in the band’s Fender Bass VI – during the documented Let It Be sessions, the model was picked up by either John Lennon or George Harrison whenever Paul McCartney was needed for piano duties.

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While these six-string basses had sold moderately well before, Squier's Classic Vibe Bass VI – the only Bass VI currently in production – benefitted from all the extra attention and displaced the Fender Player Precision Bass, which is down to second place in Reverb's list this year.

Justin Norvell, Fender's Product EVP, hinted at renewed interest in the hybrid instrument in an interview with Guitar World at the beginning of 2022.

“The phone started ringing off the hook for the Bass VI, because it was popping in and out of certain scenes,” he said.

“People were like, ‘You know, I haven’t thought about this in years, but do you have any of those in?’ And luckily we did, through Squier. People who record are always looking for new tools, and the Bass VI can be like this whole new universe of sound.”

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 08:05 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/Umfk1xy.jpg

calstars, Saturday, 12 November 2022 18:42 (two years ago) link

Fortunately I bought the sunburst VI above in 2013 when nobody had much interest in them. They come and go in waves. That one is the Fender Japan reissue from 2012, but I got it used. Very tempted to sell it before the market goes off the boil, but …

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 12 November 2022 19:16 (two years ago) link

There’s a fixed up/new three prong cord/etc. Selmer Treble n Bass on Reverb, wish I could live out my Syd Barrett fantasies.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 12 November 2022 19:50 (two years ago) link

I am generally pro-Ric, but... something about that purple bass looks... toylike? Clunky? Massive hardware and chonky knobs.

Trying to imagine playing it for real, and failing. Me, I want to interact with strings, because that is how music happens. That bass gives you everything but.

iliac crestfallen (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 12 November 2022 23:31 (two years ago) link

I am generally pro-Ric, but... something about that purple bass looks... toylike? Clunky? Massive hardware and chonky knobs.

Trying to imagine playing it for real, and failing. Me, I want to interact with strings, because that is how music happens. That bass gives you everything but.


I hear you but I have the opposite reaction

calstars, Saturday, 12 November 2022 23:53 (two years ago) link

De gustibus, calstars; rock the fuck on.

iliac crestfallen (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 13 November 2022 00:20 (two years ago) link

De gusta what?

calstars, Sunday, 13 November 2022 00:27 (two years ago) link

Want a Kustom K-200 just for the sweet fretboard inlay choice

https://www.retrofret.com/images/9059_Guitar/xLarge/9059_01.jpg

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 13 November 2022 01:39 (two years ago) link

get it refinished in that Ric's candy apple purple maybe

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 13 November 2022 01:40 (two years ago) link

lol, respect to the brave soul who decided traditional inlay patterns just weren't cutting it

call all destroyer, Sunday, 13 November 2022 01:45 (two years ago) link

Fretboard inlays are such a waste of effort imo.

I play guitar tolerably often (I think) and my eyes are pretty much never on the fretboard of a guitar I am engaged in playing. Usually I am looking forward, and in any case I would have to awkwardly angle the guitar in order to look at fretboard markings.

From time to time I might look at the side of the neck. There are usually some dots there. But I would have to be in pretty bad shape to need them. Lost or drunk or completely disintegrating, musically speaking.

If I were to become so lost as to not know whether I was playing at the fifth or seventh fret, my ears would tell me way sooner than my eyeballs could.

iliac crestfallen (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 13 November 2022 04:31 (two years ago) link

I look at them all the time

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 13 November 2022 14:42 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I’m an inveterate neck-looker.

an incomprehensible borefest full of elves (hardcore dilettante), Sunday, 13 November 2022 17:05 (two years ago) link

The first time I played a show (as a 45 year old) I had no idea how much I looked at the side dots until I couldn't see them on stage. Front ones not so much apparently.

joygoat, Sunday, 13 November 2022 17:08 (two years ago) link

John Entwistle's basses starting in 1989 or so were outfitted with LED side dots. I thought that was pretty cool.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 13 November 2022 17:23 (two years ago) link

Are people tilting their instruments toward their face? Or tilting their faces into their laps?

I play a bunch of different instruments, and I perform regularly. I literally cannot understand simultaneously singing into a microphone, looking at an audience, and seeing the fretboard of an instrument I am holding. Sitting, maybe, standing, no.

iliac crestfallen (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 13 November 2022 19:38 (two years ago) link

In general I play sitting in front of a small amp, and my cats aren’t big on eye contact, so the fretboard markers are easily seen

assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 13 November 2022 20:27 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/2ywglEV.png

calstars, Sunday, 13 November 2022 20:34 (two years ago) link

I play a bunch of different instruments and play regularly and just look at the fretboard a lot I think a lot people do. Sometime I move my head or my eyes and look and other things.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 13 November 2022 20:37 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/s4FBKOX.png

I play like this generally…on the back of the neck I put little nibs on the 3, 5, 7 etc so I can tell where I’m fretting

calstars, Sunday, 13 November 2022 20:38 (two years ago) link

I’m a newbie guitarist and I sort of wandered into this thread and my overarching reaction to this most recent conversation is a strong despairing feeling that I’ll never be a real guitarist combined with an overwhelming desire to kick Ye Mad Puffin in the nuts so hard that my own explode

castanuts (DJP), Sunday, 13 November 2022 23:18 (two years ago) link

Even if you don't look at them, inlays are a decorative touch. A plain fretboard on an electric guitar would look lame 99% of the time and no one plays guitar to look lame. Except for people who buy headless guitars, I guess.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 14 November 2022 00:08 (two years ago) link


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