The Rolling "Top of the Pops" BBC4 Revival thread.

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I also think it's telling that, in this era, when TOTP show an exclusive performance of a yet-to-be-released single, it inevitably ends up charting. It feels like the show is trying to influence rather than reflect popular taste, and you only need to look ahead fifteen years to see how that ends up working out for them.

boxedjoy, Sunday, 18 December 2022 08:51 (one year ago) link

According to wikipedia, it was the Prodigy who boycotted TOTP, not the other way round. xps

lord of the rongs (anagram), Sunday, 18 December 2022 10:02 (one year ago) link

guess the idea was "this show is for everyone, we have to play the older acts to keep the mums and dads watching" which is tbh the kind of audience targeting fuckery that has been a plague on the BBC for the last 20 years.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 18 December 2022 10:05 (one year ago) link

xp yeah but it was TOTP that refused to play the videos

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 18 December 2022 10:05 (one year ago) link

They've also managed to avoid Goodmen's "Give It Up" which has been hanging around for weeks and weeks.

boxedjoy, Sunday, 18 December 2022 10:21 (one year ago) link

There was a similar attitude in the 1970s with lame-o third-rate soft rock acts like Liverpool Express and Smokie turning up every week, while disco was tolerated by the producers at best.

no jaki liebezeit required (Matt #2), Sunday, 18 December 2022 11:20 (one year ago) link

b-b-but Liverpool Express were the new Beatles!

the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Sunday, 18 December 2022 11:35 (one year ago) link

excuse me a moment.

A ha ha ha...

Righto, onwards

Mark G, Sunday, 18 December 2022 12:16 (one year ago) link

("Every man must have a dream" was basically "Imagine", righto o&o)

Mark G, Sunday, 18 December 2022 12:18 (one year ago) link

Was Righto their drummer or something?

chap, Sunday, 18 December 2022 12:33 (one year ago) link

It's possible

Mark G, Sunday, 18 December 2022 12:33 (one year ago) link

The "Give It Up" situation will descend into a farce in 1995 when Simply Red release Fairground and it's given blanket coverage.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 18 December 2022 12:51 (one year ago) link

I was put off from watching last night's repeat of the Christmas 1990 episode because the BBC saw fit to make the thumbnail a screenshot of Timmy Mallett mid-"oh yeah".

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 24 December 2022 09:42 (one year ago) link

Also TOTP Review Of Year 2022 is on tonight at 10:40pm on BBC2 if you can muster the level give-a-shit-ness required to watch 'Clara Amfo and Jack Saunders present a hit-packed show'. Missed out a letter there.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 24 December 2022 10:27 (one year ago) link

Shogw

Mark G, Saturday, 24 December 2022 16:59 (one year ago) link

I'm sort of glad they never played Give It Up because I missed half of '93 and wanted to see that one.

You Are My Love is brilliant.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link

7pm tonight there's "Smashie and Nicey's Top of the Pops Party" - a retrospective on the show's first 30 years, originally broadcast on 4th Jan 1994.

If you don't fancy that then there are two regular episodes following.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 6 January 2023 13:36 (one year ago) link

I was just coming here to say I think I'll skip Smashie and Nicey. The BBC broadcast a mockumentary about them that went through just about all the jokes anyone could make in about 15 minutes. Unfathomable to me - both then and now - how those two characters became so big.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 6 January 2023 18:46 (one year ago) link

The good news is that there's not that much Smashie & Nicey, the bad news is that they've added a load of later clips, everything only gets 30 seconds, and the whole thing is an incomprehensible mess.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 6 January 2023 19:32 (one year ago) link

In the context of 1994, 'Things Can Only Get Better' isn't that bad, despite the singer's attempts to come across as an egotistic cock. It sounded worse during the 1997 General Election.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 13 January 2023 19:24 (one year ago) link

the sax solo is the only good bit

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 13 January 2023 19:28 (one year ago) link

'Blow Your Whistle' is the kind of song that I was excited to hear in the club as a 19 year old but then after two minutes dancefloor freneticism I'd be "ffs enough" and dive towards the bar for another drink.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 13 January 2023 19:29 (one year ago) link

Marti Pellow, so sweaty.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 13 January 2023 19:30 (one year ago) link

Bryan Adams, Rod Stewart and Sting can all fuck off together pls

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 13 January 2023 19:37 (one year ago) link

all for one, all fuck off

the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Friday, 13 January 2023 20:11 (one year ago) link

1977 was very white male, with only pussycat(!) as relief (and legs and co dancing around whilst dressed as car wash brushes). david soul sounds like he was pitch shifted up a couple of octaves.

koogs, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 20:37 (one year ago) link

Blow Your Whistle is a classic functional dance hit and gets bonus points for not being 2002 No. 5 smash Blow My Whistle Bitch.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 22:03 (one year ago) link

Garth Brooks clearly subscribes to the Billy Joel school of "make facial expressions like you're taking a really long and difficult dump while singing".

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 20 January 2023 19:49 (one year ago) link

First show tonight was pretty good! second was less good though. These were the last two shows for Dortie & Franklin, a shame as I've grown to like them a lot. Next week we have the relaunch format to kick off the real mid-90s

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 20 January 2023 20:12 (one year ago) link

I saw Therapy? live about four or five times in the mid 90s. They were... considerably less good than I remember.

chap, Saturday, 21 January 2023 10:51 (one year ago) link

no actual good shot of the keyboardist on either of the d:ream appearances

only bit i enjoyed in the 4 episodes was martika's hair

koogs, Saturday, 21 January 2023 12:08 (one year ago) link

I don’t think Brian Cox was in this version of D:Ream, but he was in the performances when it was previously released.

I was never that into Therapy?, but Screamager is a banger.

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 22 January 2023 07:58 (one year ago) link

Britrock bands are to this era of TOTP what Senseless Things and that ilk were to the last.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 23 January 2023 05:05 (one year ago) link

"Give It Away" is one of those songs that I think I like when I try recall what it sounds like, but when I hear it (especially accompanied by the video) I realise that it's a bunch of nonsense.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 27 January 2023 19:22 (one year ago) link

I like that TOTP heralding their new era included a single from an album that was released before the last era. Why wasn't it a UK hit until 94 I have no idea.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 28 January 2023 13:45 (one year ago) link

No-one said it was going to be easy... for Mark E Smith to even both singing all the lyrics of this song from a piece of paper.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 10 February 2023 19:20 (one year ago) link

Also, number 7382 in a series of 'singers who look like someone snoball works with' - there's a guy at work who I've just realised looks like a blond version of young MES.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 10 February 2023 19:23 (one year ago) link

Morrissey being a choad as normal - "I will be in the bar... with my head on the bar" ffs

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 10 February 2023 19:24 (one year ago) link

xxp s/both/bother
(or for me to even bother typing out the word 'bother' apparently)

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 10 February 2023 19:32 (one year ago) link

Electroswing really has just been a decades-long, even less good riff on Doop by Doop, hasn't it?

chap, Friday, 10 February 2023 19:43 (one year ago) link

Doop by Doop is brilliant and all electroswing is terrible shit, apart from that I agree.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 10 February 2023 19:45 (one year ago) link

decades long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6r1tUhl1cQ
Electrovelvet, the UK's Eurovision 2015 entry. Which at the time I thought sounded like 'Doop'.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 10 February 2023 19:52 (one year ago) link

Such awful shit, nothing redeemable there. Doop still magnificent though.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 10 February 2023 20:08 (one year ago) link

Doop is brilliant and I'm happy to see it get some love here.

Whenever it's revived these days it's the version from the video, which is RONG. The (hit) Urge 2 Merge Mix is only the vid mix for a minute then it becomes something else.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 10 February 2023 20:32 (one year ago) link

there are I believe two different videos for the two mixes

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 10 February 2023 20:32 (one year ago) link

I've never seen the U2M video? Either way the other one is all I'm used to seeing.

Before Doop led to electro-swing there were some much nearer descendants, like Yomanda's hardbag Blind Date (no. 31 in '95).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Peijv1JnEg0

you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 10 February 2023 20:36 (one year ago) link

you've been fucking framed

koogs, Friday, 10 February 2023 20:40 (one year ago) link

A slightly later and hipper electroswing precedent is Get a Move On by Mr Scruff.

chap, Friday, 10 February 2023 21:15 (one year ago) link

Only up to the Inspiral Carpets, Mark E Smith but a strong episode so far. Hearing Barbara Tucker’s pleasant enough garage house track and realising that is where the vocal from Hardrives “Deep Inside” is sampled from - a song I know inside out and upside down but without investigating the source - was a moment.

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 11 February 2023 08:04 (one year ago) link

Argh, jinxed it. Morrisey.

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 11 February 2023 08:05 (one year ago) link


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