Meg White Flight
― sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 00:56 (one year ago) link
I saw a recent photo of her, i think just in my insta feed bc i follow other indie-ish content. She is likely only “hiding” from journalists.
― treeship., Tuesday, 6 June 2023 01:07 (one year ago) link
She is not a recluse. I used to see her bumming around.
― Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 01:09 (one year ago) link
It’s a very 2023 idea to describe anyone who isn’t constantly clamoring for attention a recluse.
― treeship., Tuesday, 6 June 2023 01:15 (one year ago) link
I say this as someone who constantly clamors for attention.
Bobbie Gentry is another vanished person, though I understand she is/was very well off.Case in point: this article, which (IMO) is significantly less interesting than the Meg White one, and doesn’t function as much of an appreciation or meditation on Gentry’s artistry or influence, but is literally pretty much just “let me see if I can track her down…”.
― Day 1 fan (morrisp), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 01:25 (one year ago) link
(Spoiler alert, if you’re not able to get past the paywall:)
After a few rings, a pleasant woman’s voice said: “Hello.”I introduced myself and my newspaper. I said I was looking for the person whose name appears on the property owner’s record.There was a dead pause of several seconds. My fingers clenched open and closed.“There’s no one here by that name,” she said, finally.I apologized and started to read back the number, to make sure I had dialed it correctly, and she hung up.
― Day 1 fan (morrisp), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 01:27 (one year ago) link
What a dick
― treeship., Tuesday, 6 June 2023 01:35 (one year ago) link
This is just like this Sundays thing from a few years ago, right down to the title
https://longreads.com/2019/07/30/searching-for-the-sundays/
― nate woolls, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 01:54 (one year ago) link
I just remembered my friend’s ex who was an ok guy but was super-pissed about his exit from Detroit and being in bands there. Apparently his bandmate spent all their money, or so he said, and he ended up selling all his production gear to other Detroit musicians. I guess some of the stuff he sold to Brendan Benson was in the background pictures in a Raconteurs album sleeveAny attention or fame is one of those things where it can tip either way
― mh, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 02:20 (one year ago) link
Oh god that longreads piece is so frickin cringe.
Hey dood the people you want to interview have made it crystal clear that they do not wish to be interviewed by the likes of you; you could just let it go instead of publishing 750 words about not getting the interview you wanted.
Also fuck off.
I assumed that Brindley and the other members would be intrigued by my questions, which I saw as refreshingly personal. I figured they would be glad to discuss the members’ experiences both inside and outside the band
Wow, you actually think that your list of questions will change the dynamic? Like, people who have been intentionally quiet for 25 years will magically open up because of your refreshing questions?
I have been a professional journalist myself, and even at my most arrogant I would never have ascribed this kind of power to my reportorial approach.
The Sundays are not stupid. If they wanted to be interviewed they would be interviewed. They're not sitting at home waiting for a certain someone to ask them the right questions. They either want to talk, or they don't. Mostly, they don't. They know what they are doing.
― sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 02:22 (one year ago) link
Uh, wrong thread I guess
― sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 02:24 (one year ago) link
i think it's pretty cool, in 2023, to talk about meg white and what she accomplished and the shit she endured and how much she meant to people (including the author?)
centering it around how 'wow she won't talk to me' is absurd tho. and god bless meg for *not* talking to someone who would frame it that way
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 03:55 (one year ago) link
Xpost no not at all, I was reminded of The Sundays' thing too.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 06:05 (one year ago) link
I hate the strawman mystery of these pieces - just because you don't know what someone's thought process is doesn't automatically make it a mystery. Also, your lifestory in investigating this purported mystery rarely justifies the word count.Leave Meg alone. I remember that when Pink Floyd started touring again in the 80s, Syd Barrett would get a new set of fanzine writers and/or stalkers trying to sneak a photograph (or worse, just knock on his front door)
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 06:54 (one year ago) link
https://townsquare.media/site/295/files/2017/12/macca-farleyv2.jpg
Remember when you were in the Beatles? That was cool.
― sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 09:11 (one year ago) link
Fucking love Meg White’s drumming. Don’t give a shit about any other aspect of her life that she’s not interested in discussing. First half of this thread is puerile and repulsive.
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 10:20 (one year ago) link
I was reminded of Richard Simmons.
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 15:02 (one year ago) link
This isn't even the worst Meg thread from early ilx.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 16:39 (one year ago) link
Jack White’s entire career separate from Meg is the best argument for her value as a drummer.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 20:42 (one year ago) link
^^^^^^^^^^
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 20:58 (one year ago) link
OTM, that's also my go-to argument. How many Raconteurs songs do you know?
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 21:37 (one year ago) link
"Steady as she goes", that's it.
And, as for the the Dead Weather, um...
― Mark G, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 21:49 (one year ago) link
i'd thought about posting that elle article earlier but ended up not doing so after looking at all the meg white threads on ILX. The general White Stripes threads honestly weren't much better, where meg was concerned. just seeing it all at once made me so sad, just how much fucking shit she faced while the band was active.
personally, I actually really liked the article as a recognition of Meg and all the crap she went through, though I agree that the framing of it as the hunt for an interview is lame. It would have worked just fine as a long appreciation piece.
― Roz, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 03:59 (one year ago) link
Roz, exact same!! I recently looked up MW here and saw how bad it was and like 1000 posts about her body and couldn’t bring myself to revive until this article and I still didn’t post it bc I didn’t want to see the grossness all over again. Completely agree that you don’t need to find her and force her to talk to write an appreciation piece which I also agree is long overdue. In addition to the young women she inspired I wonder what the collateral damage of the misogyny was — we’ll never know because you can’t count discouraged people but I’m sure (from my own experience) that there are a.non-zero number of women who actually chose not to pursue drumming bc of the way they saw her being treated. Who would sign up for that but the most courageous who probably would have started playing without the inspiration of MW??
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 14:18 (one year ago) link
Even when I finally decided to start playing and learning there were always chucklebutts who would say discouraging things like “well good luck, there’s hardly a shortage of awesome drummers in (city where I live)” Fortunately they did not deter me but obviously I still think about it from time to time.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 14:20 (one year ago) link
Basically everyone but obsessive Jack White weirdos totally agrees and acknowledges that the White Stripes is BY FAR the best work he's ever done and yet there's still some question about how important the other person in the band was? It's kind of like debating why Mick Jagger solo albums aren't as good as Stones albums, gee I wonder.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 14:48 (one year ago) link
If I had worn the outfit that Meg wore on the cover of Icky Thump, I would totally have gone into hiding as well.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 14:55 (one year ago) link
disappointed you're not open-minded enough to embrace the Pearly way, scott
― serving aunt (stevie), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 14:57 (one year ago) link
fame isn't really worth it if you have to wear that hat.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link
Yesterday's Meg White shitposters are Today's Horny Dad posters.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 19:49 (one year ago) link
I can't remember the last time I listened to a Jack White solo album, but the Stripes come up regularly in my rotation.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 8 June 2023 20:25 (one year ago) link
And what is not to like about these outfits?
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/A1K+jbj+1bL._AC_SX425_.jpg
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 8 June 2023 20:31 (one year ago) link
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, June 7, 2023 9:20 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
Because I know your goal in starting drums was to get that Top Gig with the Headline Band
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 8 June 2023 21:13 (one year ago) link
In any USian city there are WAY more superfluous guitar players than there are drummers.
(This is partly why I mainly play mandola and bodhran. Less competition.)
― sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 June 2023 02:55 (one year ago) link
(and also if I had the ability to hire La Lechera I would do so in a heartbeat)
― sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 June 2023 02:57 (one year ago) link
well thanks for the vote of confidence! i appreciate that i think you're right about guitar players also
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Friday, 9 June 2023 04:45 (one year ago) link
My kid was smart to pick the bass.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 9 June 2023 13:43 (one year ago) link
^indeed
― CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 9 June 2023 13:47 (one year ago) link
A guy who works in the music industry recently told me that if I wanted to be a full-time musician I should learn pedal steel, that there's always work for pedal steel players. I'm kind of tempted to go for it.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 9 June 2023 14:12 (one year ago) link
I’m hoping to be go-to gong gal in my perfect world.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Friday, 9 June 2023 14:13 (one year ago) link
someone who has their own gong and can dependably show up? a rarity in these days
― mh, Friday, 9 June 2023 14:20 (one year ago) link
It me: Mature reliable gong-enabled 😎
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Friday, 9 June 2023 14:25 (one year ago) link
Even with messing with a lap steel, it is definitely a different kind of beast than a guitar.
I’d love to get a chance to fart around with a pedal steel or b bender guitar, just to try them out but don’t know anyone that plays one and they are really expensive.
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Friday, 9 June 2023 14:27 (one year ago) link
I've bought my wife a couple of gongs over the years. She is not into droning out on them - just enjoys a well-placed strike to re-center herself. One was a 10" wind gong that has gone slightly out of tune due to parades of kids just walking up and smashing it. A year or two ago I bought her an 18" chau gong. It is much more sturdy and sonorous and she has placed it out of the way of young ne'er-do-wells. But yesterday morning, before anyone was awake, one of our cats discovered it and decided that she enjoyed brushing up against it and giving it headbutts.
― peace, man, Friday, 9 June 2023 14:59 (one year ago) link
going to need video of this gong head-butting cat asap
― Roz, Friday, 9 June 2023 15:09 (one year ago) link
The best strategy is to follow the Nashville model, master one instrument but be at least competent at one or two others. I love stories like Buck Owens and Don Rich, where Rich started out on fiddle for several years before Owens learned he was not just a good guitarist but a great guitarist. Or Bill Berry in REM, who iirc surprised his bandmates (who probably already knew he could play guitar) that he was a piano player, too. The Beatles, of course, swapped instruments here and there as needed (though it helped that Paul was a legit prodigy on his primary instrument).
But yeah, the world is awash in good guitar players, but as the saying goes, a band is only as good as its drummer.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 June 2023 15:12 (one year ago) link
gong cat to (cat) thread
― serving bundt (sic), Friday, 9 June 2023 15:36 (one year ago) link
there were always chucklebutts who would say discouraging things like “well good luck, there’s hardly a shortage of awesome drummers in (city where I live)”
what fucking cities are these? IME drummers are absolutely the most in demand and hardest to find part of any group. every time I find someone who has availability and desire to play in my band I feel like I won the lottery
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 9 June 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link
Last year I played a show where there were five bands. I was the drummer in three of them.
― sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 June 2023 17:49 (one year ago) link