Ooo wee I forgot I posted that!, it sounds like a gargantuan task nowadays lol
there should be a division between my personal favorites and the ones I think everyone needs to listen to …
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 22:24 (one year ago) link
Easiest path is to start with Cancion Animal for Soda and Bocanada for Cerati
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 22:25 (one year ago) link
^This is not a bad suggestion
― CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 22:30 (one year ago) link
I’ve been listening to this stuff a ton for the better part of a year now and still haven’t gotten anywhere near the bottom of it.
― CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 22:31 (one year ago) link
Like in theory now that my original Gustavo bro-crush is dying down a bit I should be able to just put him up on the shelf, but nope.
― CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 22:37 (one year ago) link
Un hombre alado etc
Not to be confused with a Lobo Hombre.
― CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 22:38 (one year ago) link
Revisiting his solo career and I hadn’t really contextualized his music on release date and it’s blowing my mind how in 1992 he was so ahead of the curve. I always assumed a song like “Cozumel” was from the mid 90s. Noone in latinamerica understood and implemented as efficiently trending genres like shoegaze and downtempo/trip hop as good as him. It took several years for the rest of the world to catch up with artists as him.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 03:25 (one year ago) link
Best I could do for his solo output: 2 highlight, imho, songs per album - with the exception of “+ bien” which is soundtrack work and probably just worth a listen for completion purposes.
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7baccsvllKfsimqhRwCmhj
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 15:41 (one year ago) link
Thank you kindly - great starting points. Always takes me a bit longer to absorb non-English music so having a little more focus is great.
Problem with the comps, I see now, is that they have some earlier angular post-punk funk tracks (like very early Go-Betweens?) that I don’t really care about that much.― CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, June 13, 2023 10:17 PM
― CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, June 13, 2023 10:17 PM
Ha, I have the same issue with early Go-Betweens despite liking other bands that exist solely in the angular post-punk funk zone!
― etc, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 20:09 (one year ago) link
Added two tracks per album of Soda Stereo too… I’m omitting some of his biggest hits (de musica ligera, persiana americana, adios, crimen...) … not because I don’t like them but because I feel like there’s better songs in their respective albums and those are a very basic intro.
Tempted to treat “comfort” as not a live unplugged album but as a closing album, an add songs from it too. Most of the versions in there - particularly their early songs - are wildly different from the original ones. Even a song as iconic as “en la ciudad de la furia” feels like a totally different song. Both the unplugged and album versions are great.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 23:41 (one year ago) link
Yeah fuck it I’m adding “te para tres”, that song is nowhere near one of the highlights of “cancion animal” but it turns into one of the best moments in the unplugged version. Adds a solo lifted from “cementerio club” by Pescado Rabioso (Spinetta)- a classic argentinian rock song on its own - and brings the song to another level.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 15 June 2023 00:24 (one year ago) link
Bocanada is a hard one… again I’d probably recommend to listen to that one in full. It’s probably Cerati’s magnum opus imho.
Picking Raiz and Tabu since they’re the ones I’m most in the mood for with the current heatwaves and they’re the two songs that convinced me in the first place to buy this album back in 2000-something.
Raiz is very sample heavy but it’s built so effortlessly you’d think it’s all Cerati. There’s samples of Deodato (breakbeat), XTC (guitar break), Jaivas (Flutes), Thomas Dolby (main guitar) and even Mark Snow from the X files soundtrack!
Tabu’s main groove is lifted from Spencer Davis Group “waltz for Lumumba”, I love the energy Cerati adds to the groove. Probably Cerati’s best opening track both in Soda and a solo artist.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 15 June 2023 00:41 (one year ago) link
Could have easily picked the title track or “paseo inmoral” which is based around Garry Glitter’s rock n roll.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 15 June 2023 00:44 (one year ago) link
Ha, been meaning to concentrate and figure out what this last sample was, and whether it was an actual sample.
― CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 June 2023 10:38 (one year ago) link
Wow at dropping the Bocanada sample knowledge. Just found this handy video about that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HMo9Wun31o
― CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 June 2023 10:50 (one year ago) link
somehow had never noticed Kim Deal in there!
― with hidden noise, Thursday, 15 June 2023 11:56 (one year ago) link
All the samples are fun to learn about but the one that made me smile the most for whatever reason was the John Barry.
― CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 June 2023 13:34 (one year ago) link
For an example of the early stuff that is okay but not my favorite, see “Danza Rota.”
― Holly Godarkbloom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 June 2023 21:49 (one year ago) link
Heh, just came across an album for kids called Babies Go Soda.
― Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 24 June 2023 16:15 (one year ago) link
I think Soda gets interesting from Signos onwards, the first two albums have some of their big hits but sound too generic - with some exceptions like “cuando pase el temblor” which is probably the first BIG Soda song.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 June 2023 16:18 (one year ago) link
Sounds about right.
― Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 24 June 2023 16:48 (one year ago) link
Signos has three big hits, I think, but the whole album flows from start to finish. It’s much more open, both spacious and dense, from start to finish.
― Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 24 June 2023 16:51 (one year ago) link
Also just came across this:https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xlze59
― Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 24 June 2023 16:57 (one year ago) link
^“Lo que sangra (La cúpula)” from the reunion tour with some special guests.
― Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 24 June 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link
I think this is supposed to put the kids to sleep.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGyfr_NaEqs
― Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 24 June 2023 17:00 (one year ago) link
Lol that doesn’t sound very pleasant to sleep to.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 June 2023 19:51 (one year ago) link
Guess they figured they had to give Dan Zanes a run for his money.
― Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 June 2023 00:40 (one year ago) link
Never listened to or even knew about this early live album Ruido Blanco before today.
― Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 June 2023 14:34 (one year ago) link
Then found another live recording from early on, this one simply called En Vivo, which has a lot of noise. Seems to be the soundtrack of a performance, the first night in Viña Del Mar in 1987.
― Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 June 2023 15:34 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZsMmket4e0
Guess they were promoting Signos, which was released the previous November and then had the three singles coming out throughout the year.Crowd noise on this sounds like some Beatles stuff#onethread
― Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 June 2023 15:52 (one year ago) link
Crowd doesn’t quite know “Persiana Americana” yet. There is some screaming when he starts singing but that’s it.
― Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 June 2023 15:54 (one year ago) link
Somos cómplices los dos
― Looking For Mr. Goodreads (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 June 2023 23:10 (one year ago) link
My music listening in general lately has been slow, but I did finally hear Amor Amarillo (hooray for titles even I can understand). "Lisa" and "Te llevo para que me lleves" are good, the latter a cool take on Isn't Anything MBV, but thought the rest was pretty sluggish. I will give Bocanada another listen eventually but so far I much prefer Soda to Cerati solo
― Vinnie, Saturday, 1 July 2023 19:20 (one year ago) link
Think the production is less dense on his solo stuff but his singing, songwriting and guitar playing is still strong.
― Looking For Mr. Goodreads (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 1 July 2023 20:57 (one year ago) link
That could be it. I think I tend to like fuller productions in general
― Vinnie, Saturday, 1 July 2023 22:55 (one year ago) link
Too much time on this thread:Just a few hours ago I overheard someone saying “Gracias” and my mind automatically added “Totales!”
― Looking For Mr. Goodreads (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 July 2023 18:40 (one year ago) link
Soda getting a Latin Grammy Lifetime Achievement award. https://www.grammy.com/news/latin-recording-academy-announces-2023-special-merit-award-honorees
― Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 16:56 (one year ago) link
Just read more about when he did that Police tribute song. Pretty interesting.
― Poor Little Fool Killer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 July 2023 14:08 (one year ago) link
Heh, can you guess who were the Top Two artists in my Spotify 2023 Wrapped?
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 17:16 (eleven months ago) link
Had to step away for a bit but now I’m back
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 29 February 2024 18:15 (eight months ago) link
good timing, I just dug out Canción Animal for the first time in a while. for some reason I have a hard time remembering its tracks (apart from "De Música Ligera"), so I forget how good it is
― Vinnie, Thursday, 29 February 2024 23:54 (eight months ago) link
Ha exactly! That album is full of great tracks, many of them also live staples. Often I forget “De Música Ligera” is even on there.
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 1 March 2024 00:43 (eight months ago) link
Also many of these tracks not so uptempo so kind of heavier but still really cool.
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 1 March 2024 00:44 (eight months ago) link
Yeah they play with time signature, mood, tempo to create a pretty diverse set of songs. Though they throw "Cae el Sol" at the end so you get an anthemic chorus
Also wtf... 9 of the 10 songs were released as singles??
― Vinnie, Friday, 1 March 2024 11:54 (eight months ago) link
Forgot about that.
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 1 March 2024 13:18 (eight months ago) link
What an amazing album Bocanada is.
― Tim F, Friday, 3 May 2024 02:09 (six months ago) link
OTM. Kind of amazing how his solo career was a match for his band years and how many there are who prefer the solo stuff.
― Billion Year Polyphonic Spree (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 May 2024 02:31 (six months ago) link
Top 10 latinamerican albums of all time and Cerati probably a top 3 latinamerican artist.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 3 May 2024 02:38 (six months ago) link