worst band name or record label name change of the social justice & social media era

I can understand why Whities changed their name, but it was just referencing white labels, right?

(It always takes me a minute to remember what AD 93 is, even though I get their emails like every week)

Young Turks —> Young

This is pretty bad

they obviously spent about 0.5 seconds thinking about that.

I wonder if Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel and Big Black would have renamed if around now?

I can understand why Whities changed their name, but it was just referencing white labels, right?

i had always thought it was in reference to having a whitey, but have no idea if that was the origin or not.

xp at ll tbf cindy lee is the drag project of a nonbinary person

oh ok, then that is ok! i'm sorry -- i haven't paid much attention to any their music bc their naming conventions were so wack

Ohhh right, I'm not up on my (UK?) drug slang.

the song that Cindy Lee did this year with Freak Heat Waves is really good btw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAoSD9S7dpY

If Whities was a specific reference to their status as white interlopers in a black art form… it would still be fine!

ehhh

average white band was a long time ago and it wasn't that funny at the time

Whitey was formed in Denton in the early 1990s, the brain child of Corey Korn while playing in another Denton band called the Cowtippers. The original name was to be Kill Whitey (an ironic twist on a mainly white funk band), but Corey thought it might be too extreme and shortened it to Whitey like a fucking coward.

they obviously spent about 0.5 seconds thinking about that

probably about how long they spent thinking up the original name which was awful too

"Slaves" having to change their name is making me think of like some San Francisco leather sex nerds are having an S&M session, and one says "lick my fucking boot, slave" and the other is like "Wow. I think you should use this moment as a learning opportunity to reflect on the spectre of American slavery"

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If those two dudes from Kent said that their band name was a BDSM reference then it might’ve gone different than their “anybody living the rise-n-grind life is a slave, to a degree, no?” expliqué

a) that has absolutely happened before and probably happens a lot in the bay area but b) our fetishes are formed within a real sociohistorical context so it's worth at least thinking about

For some reason I had conflated the Blessed Madonna with a different musician and couldn't really figure out why the name was that big of a deal, until I googled a photo of her and was like, "oh, yeah".

I don't know, I'm an American and I can hear def the word "slaves" without thinking specifically of the African slave trade. I may be the minority in that opinion though?

I don’t think I’ve ever thought of that word as a reference to any other context!

I’m not into BSDM so I can’t say for sure but I think it’s “sub”, not “slave”, that is in more general usage

a slave tends to be a specific type of sub

The only time I see “slave” and think “this isn’t about the slave trade” is when I’m syncing old software/hardware devices

Maybe those Kent dudes were actually just really into word clock

it definitely sounds like they're from Kent

I don’t think I’ve ever thought of that word as a reference to any other context!

idk, "sex slave," "slave to the grind," "wage slave," "slave girls," "slave to love"

There's def a move to change "slave" in software language, but that also has the "master/slave" language which makes that connection a little more closer

yes and master/slave terminology for DB management is no longer acceptable any longer at lots of tech companies.

"What did your last slave die of?"

I’m a Soft Play 4 U

Not one ILXor spoke up, retroactive bans for all involved

"I'm A Slave 4 U": Preliminary Classic Or Dud

look if people don't want to believe the frisson of songs in this vein isn't partly rooted in things we'd rather not think about then they don't have to, they would be wrong though

please don't cancel Grace Jones

it's not nothing and the whole pseudo-arabic signifying forbidden sensuality thing in 00s pop isn't nothing either for that matter

as for jones it does inevitably hit different and no one is cancelling anyone but to suggest that the word isn't always loaded is untenable

oh I was just dicking around, since this conversation started I have been pondering whether all fictional uses of e.g. Roman empire slavery are interlaced with frissons of the African trade

Feel like the answer is probably yes

It’s an album but Animal Collective’s Here Comes the Indian is now Ark (which was its working title).

?!

Neon Indian > Alan Palomo

I was thinking about including that, but he didn't apologize or anything

I know, I figured he was just trying to get ahead of things.

"Slaves" having to change their name is making me think of like some San Francisco leather sex nerds are having an S&M session, and one says "lick my fucking boot, slave" and the other is like "Wow. I think you should use this moment as a learning opportunity to reflect on the spectre of American slavery"

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― kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten)

this is _absolutely_ something that comes up in kink, although not usually during a scene itself... usually you'd want to negotiate that kind of stuff beforehand. anyway i am _not_ going to get into the topic further but there is a _lot_ to get into.

having said that your description of kinksters as "sex nerds" is absolutely and completely accurate.

Sex Nerd Sandra otm.

i guess technically not _totally_ accurate considering i'm asexual. but close enough.

It was a podcast several years back. She spent endless hours discussing kink in the nerdiest terms possible.

FUN WITH BRAINWASHING! Meet Miss Holly, a kinky pioneer using clicker training for sexual happiness. Turns out methods used to train dogs, parrots and dolphins can help humans develop deeper, happier relationships. TOPICS: Consensual brainwashing, Chris Pratt in Jurassic World, people-pleasers, pleasure, brain chemicals, dog vs human training, Dom/sub relationship training, domestication fetish, "positive punishment" vs "positive reinforcement" vs "negative punishment" vs "negative reinforcement," sex magic, ASMR whisper tingles, triad polyamory, kinky marriage, oral sex communication, dangers, and achieving goals. PLUS training concepts like triggers, cold shaping, marks, rewards, the 3 fail rule and coming on command.

I draw the line at Chris Pratt.

yeah chris pratt is a hard limit for me too

like there are people doing kink who _aren't_ queer nerds working through their trauma issues, but i make it a point to not talk to any of them in kink spaces

back on topic, these dudes would never make it through the door at the local high fem dance and kink party

https://www.thesylvee.com/wp-content/uploads/tm_event/violent-femmes-performing-the-debut-album-from-cover-to-cover.gif

"Show me some men who look like old lesbians looking like men"

is that bobcat goldthwait in front

Kate, I def did not invent the term “sex nerds”

Spinal Tap did iirc

One Little Indian —> One Little Independent

here is how it started...and then it sucked even more shit!

― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 12 September 2023

Nah, quite a few examples in the poll predate OLI’s name change in 2020 - Preoccupations changed their name in 2015, Rich Brian changed his in 2018.

vg+

xp
And chucking teachers out of windows.

a few more I found...

Eskimo Callboy changed to Electric Callboy in 2022
Spirit Animal changed to Record Heat in 2020
there was another, Florida-based band named Slaves who changed their name to Rain City Drive in 2021