Young Turks —> Young
This is pretty bad
they obviously spent about 0.5 seconds thinking about that.
I wonder if Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel and Big Black would have renamed if around now?
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:09 (nine months ago) link
I can understand why Whities changed their name, but it was just referencing white labels, right?
i had always thought it was in reference to having a whitey, but have no idea if that was the origin or not.
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:10 (nine months ago) link
xp at ll tbf cindy lee is the drag project of a nonbinary person
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:12 (nine months ago) link
oh ok, then that is ok! i'm sorry -- i haven't paid much attention to any their music bc their naming conventions were so wack
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:15 (nine months ago) link
Ohhh right, I'm not up on my (UK?) drug slang.
― 50 Favorite Jordans (Jordan), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:17 (nine months ago) link
the song that Cindy Lee did this year with Freak Heat Waves is really good btw:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAoSD9S7dpY
― NickB, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:17 (nine months ago) link
If Whities was a specific reference to their status as white interlopers in a black art form… it would still be fine!
― kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:36 (nine months ago) link
ehhh
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:39 (nine months ago) link
average white band was a long time ago and it wasn't that funny at the time
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:40 (nine months ago) link
Whitey was formed in Denton in the early 1990s, the brain child of Corey Korn while playing in another Denton band called the Cowtippers. The original name was to be Kill Whitey (an ironic twist on a mainly white funk band), but Corey thought it might be too extreme and shortened it to Whitey like a fucking coward.
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:45 (nine months ago) link
they obviously spent about 0.5 seconds thinking about that
probably about how long they spent thinking up the original name which was awful too
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:45 (nine months ago) link
"Slaves" having to change their name is making me think of like some San Francisco leather sex nerds are having an S&M session, and one says "lick my fucking boot, slave" and the other is like "Wow. I think you should use this moment as a learning opportunity to reflect on the spectre of American slavery"
― kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:47 (nine months ago) link
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― kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:48 (nine months ago) link
If those two dudes from Kent said that their band name was a BDSM reference then it might’ve gone different than their “anybody living the rise-n-grind life is a slave, to a degree, no?” expliqué
― my best wishes to all (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:52 (nine months ago) link
a) that has absolutely happened before and probably happens a lot in the bay area but b) our fetishes are formed within a real sociohistorical context so it's worth at least thinking about
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:53 (nine months ago) link
For some reason I had conflated the Blessed Madonna with a different musician and couldn't really figure out why the name was that big of a deal, until I googled a photo of her and was like, "oh, yeah".
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:53 (nine months ago) link
I don't know, I'm an American and I can hear def the word "slaves" without thinking specifically of the African slave trade. I may be the minority in that opinion though?
― kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:00 (nine months ago) link
I don’t think I’ve ever thought of that word as a reference to any other context!
I’m not into BSDM so I can’t say for sure but I think it’s “sub”, not “slave”, that is in more general usage
― my best wishes to all (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:04 (nine months ago) link
a slave tends to be a specific type of sub
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:05 (nine months ago) link
The only time I see “slave” and think “this isn’t about the slave trade” is when I’m syncing old software/hardware devices
Maybe those Kent dudes were actually just really into word clock
― my best wishes to all (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:07 (nine months ago) link
it definitely sounds like they're from Kent
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:12 (nine months ago) link
idk, "sex slave," "slave to the grind," "wage slave," "slave girls," "slave to love"
There's def a move to change "slave" in software language, but that also has the "master/slave" language which makes that connection a little more closer
― kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:13 (nine months ago) link
yes and master/slave terminology for DB management is no longer acceptable any longer at lots of tech companies.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:16 (nine months ago) link
"What did your last slave die of?"
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:19 (nine months ago) link
I’m a Soft Play 4 U
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:20 (nine months ago) link
Not one ILXor spoke up, retroactive bans for all involved
"I'm A Slave 4 U": Preliminary Classic Or Dud
― kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:26 (nine months ago) link
look if people don't want to believe the frisson of songs in this vein isn't partly rooted in things we'd rather not think about then they don't have to, they would be wrong though
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:32 (nine months ago) link
please don't cancel Grace Jones
― School of RAAC (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:33 (nine months ago) link
it's not nothing and the whole pseudo-arabic signifying forbidden sensuality thing in 00s pop isn't nothing either for that matter
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:38 (nine months ago) link
as for jones it does inevitably hit different and no one is cancelling anyone but to suggest that the word isn't always loaded is untenable
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:39 (nine months ago) link
oh I was just dicking around, since this conversation started I have been pondering whether all fictional uses of e.g. Roman empire slavery are interlaced with frissons of the African trade
Feel like the answer is probably yes
― School of RAAC (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:45 (nine months ago) link
It’s an album but Animal Collective’s Here Comes the Indian is now Ark (which was its working title).
― mizzell, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:49 (nine months ago) link
?!
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 23:08 (nine months ago) link
Neon Indian > Alan Palomo
― henry s, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 23:48 (nine months ago) link
I was thinking about including that, but he didn't apologize or anything
― kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 00:00 (nine months ago) link
I know, I figured he was just trying to get ahead of things.
― henry s, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 00:34 (nine months ago) link
"Slaves" having to change their name is making me think of like some San Francisco leather sex nerds are having an S&M session, and one says "lick my fucking boot, slave" and the other is like "Wow. I think you should use this moment as a learning opportunity to reflect on the spectre of American slavery"That's my YouTube sketch, please like and subscribe― kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten)
― kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten)
this is _absolutely_ something that comes up in kink, although not usually during a scene itself... usually you'd want to negotiate that kind of stuff beforehand. anyway i am _not_ going to get into the topic further but there is a _lot_ to get into.
having said that your description of kinksters as "sex nerds" is absolutely and completely accurate.
― Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 01:45 (nine months ago) link
Sex Nerd Sandra otm.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 01:46 (nine months ago) link
i guess technically not _totally_ accurate considering i'm asexual. but close enough.
― Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 01:46 (nine months ago) link
It was a podcast several years back. She spent endless hours discussing kink in the nerdiest terms possible.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 01:47 (nine months ago) link
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I draw the line at Chris Pratt.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 01:50 (nine months ago) link
yeah chris pratt is a hard limit for me too
like there are people doing kink who _aren't_ queer nerds working through their trauma issues, but i make it a point to not talk to any of them in kink spaces
― Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 01:53 (nine months ago) link
back on topic, these dudes would never make it through the door at the local high fem dance and kink party
https://www.thesylvee.com/wp-content/uploads/tm_event/violent-femmes-performing-the-debut-album-from-cover-to-cover.gif
― Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 01:55 (nine months ago) link
"Show me some men who look like old lesbians looking like men"
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 01:57 (nine months ago) link
is that bobcat goldthwait in front
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 02:42 (nine months ago) link
Kate, I def did not invent the term “sex nerds”
― kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 03:53 (nine months ago) link
Spinal Tap did iirc
― Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 05:35 (nine months ago) link
One Little Indian —> One Little Independenthere is how it started...and then it sucked even more shit!― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 12 September 2023
here is how it started...and then it sucked even more shit!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 12 September 2023
Nah, quite a few examples in the poll predate OLI’s name change in 2020 - Preoccupations changed their name in 2015, Rich Brian changed his in 2018.
― houdini said, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 06:38 (nine months ago) link
One band I was thinking might change their name is Black Kids, but they seem to be fairly inactive.
― houdini said, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 06:41 (nine months ago) link
missing slaves -> rain city drive (there were two bands active last decade under the name 'slaves' and they both got a lot of shit for it and took a decade to change their names)
― ufo, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 06:45 (nine months ago) link
a few more I found...
Eskimo Callboy changed to Electric Callboy in 2022Spirit Animal changed to Record Heat in 2020there was another, Florida-based band named Slaves who changed their name to Rain City Drive in 2021
― RICH BRIAN (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 May 2024 17:32 (one month ago) link