we listen so fast: forgotten/unkown/unloved 80s we are listening to.

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so good! 1986 but sounds a little earlier than that. like 83 or 84. they have such a great blend of quirky synths and sharp post-punk guitar and bass. and what a bass! more of a talker than a singer if that's a turn-off. my copy is a u.k. press on Ink, the subsidiary of Red Flame, those heroes who shared the beauty and joy of Severed Heads with the world and showed us that anything was possible if we looped enough. a young Omar Santana was listening to that call of action. okay, he probably wasn't. but you never know he might have been! he did later in life help redefine and turbocharge American hardcore techno so who is to say he isn't a Severed Heads superfan? though he was probably already cutting shit up around the time that Clifford Darling came out and when you have the Latin Rascals and Chep Nunez and Kurtis Mantronik around as inspiration and mentors you are already learning the skills required to reach heaven without ever leaving Queens.
anyway, Scattered Order put out a record LAST YEAR. so if you like this record you have 40 years of superfandom of your own to get going with. their first single came out in 1981. and i first heard of them yesterday. when i picked this record up.

https://i.discogs.com/1kjH11YqwOhQfS3TGPcAANtiftZp6nM5xnP59C19xYo/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:563/w:591/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTgyOTE5/NC0xMzQxODQ3NjE5/LTk5NDMuanBlZw.jpeg

scott seward, Monday, 18 September 2023 15:20 (one year ago) link

good band, I have a Vinyl On Demand box with them on it

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Monday, 18 September 2023 15:27 (one year ago) link

Medium Medium's "Hungry, So Angry" is such a thing of beauty. Jesus. I wish I had written it and I am very rarely jealous of songwriters. Because why would i be i don't write songs. But I wish I had written that one.

One of the best albums I've listened to since starting this thread is by someone who I've already been knocked out by since starting this thread. The Passions! I just didn't know. I'm so sorry. I vaguely remembered "I'm In Love With A German Film Star" and nothing else. But sheesh Thirty Thousand Feet Over China is just such an amazing record. I don't think I thought it would sound so homemade or so spacy and dubby. So many cool guitars. Drone-y guitars! and that singer could be from a Sarah Records band. Very D.I.Y. and some punk vibes vocally. Anyway, I love it. I should have been listening to it forever. People need to tell me these things. also, the vinyl sounds so cool. I can't vouch for digital.

https://i.discogs.com/N-oMYDkMnSbxanDWlES_EqiNTN8iYakMddk0JqehPQI/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:599/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTU1NTM5/OC0xNTI4NTc3OTcz/LTE1NzQuanBlZw.jpeg

scott seward, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 01:35 (one year ago) link

i love this song so much. throwing muses could have covered this. tanya could have sung it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nntoQMUsX28

scott seward, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 01:36 (one year ago) link

Great great great album! Their earlier more postpunky album doesn’t have the same impact.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 02:44 (one year ago) link

Yo that Passions album is pretty damn amazing, I've never listened to it before. It is very accessible but actually pretty sonically interesting post punk imo. I'm hearing mp3 (and failing at acquiring), it sounds very good. The arrangements are kinda open and spacious and clear. Man I like that one, I had never even heard German Film Star tmk. Thx yet again Scott I'm getting a good education in spaces I thought I knew. That Schleimer K, same same.

you need magical thinking ay my name is david blaine (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 18:19 (one year ago) link

"interesting post punk pop" is what i meant to type.

you need magical thinking ay my name is david blaine (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 18:31 (one year ago) link

cool, i'm glad you listened to it! it's a wonderful album.

scott seward, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 20:44 (one year ago) link

I listened to that album a lot around 2005-2008, thank you for reminding me of it. "Small Stones" is hitting the spot.

c u (crüt), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 21:53 (one year ago) link

"Thirty Thousand Feet Over China" scratches the same itch for me as Alvvays or maybe even Life Without Buildings -- the hooks aren't super obvious at first, but the melancholy vibes kept me kept me coming back, until it wormed its way into my subconscious, and then it finally clicked that I've loved it all along.

Anyway, given the response on that one, The Passions probably weren't underloved.

Does anyone know if Sanctuary (the next album) is worth seeking out?

enochroot, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 00:34 (one year ago) link

speaking of "velveteen" it makes the cut on this indie top 20 cd88 comp that i just pulled out of a box.

https://i.discogs.com/j6H52yepYIJqwZmUfVPTS76PN64FxqzmYDLfCL9QZ5k/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:434/w:569/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTUyMjQ2/NS0xMTg1NDQ5NTEx/LmpwZWc.jpeg

scott seward, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 16:24 (one year ago) link

Those Beechwood indie comps were pretty good, kinda the way I was able to hear a lot of British bands for the first time.

henry s, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 17:14 (one year ago) link

not forgotten, but when was the last time you listened to a damned album? hmmmmm...???

listening to a 1982 u.k. reissue of the black album with the totally black cover. i love that cover. kinda like how i got a 1986 reissue of agnostic front's victim in pain recently which also has a completely black cover instead of the original sad and scary cover.

best thing about this copy is it still has the poster! the damned were so cool. here's the poster:

https://i.discogs.com/2VpDG7SeGGUom724Fna8Yhs9NwCoyiWwpazt9Kr6gWw/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:434/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTQ4NDkw/MjktMTYxNjY2OTAw/NS0yOTA4LmpwZWc.jpeg

scott seward, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 19:34 (one year ago) link

OMG, I need a big frame! This came in a Go-Betweens promo LP. My spirit animal and life coach Linda Manz and the Go-Betweens. A match made in heaven!

https://scontent-lga3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/380938141_10161467144832137_2003333596725731574_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=49d041&_nc_ohc=iZW5kuIWKh4AX8cCfHz&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-2.xx&oh=00_AfD0bTjEooB_yRSp-pRyhDbNv9LGe-O-7weCDy1WaKNUeQ&oe=650FCF5D

scott seward, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 20:18 (one year ago) link

Pee Wee!

henry s, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 20:25 (one year ago) link

keeping this. or at least bringing it home for further research. its insane. i don't know how to describe it really. it sort of belongs on Lovely Music, Ltd. Red Grooms cover!

https://www.discogs.com/release/5749114-Kenward-Elmslie-Palais-Bimbo-Lounge-Show

https://i.discogs.com/PdbNzTI5l16B5d4U9-vaom9MzgyPybHIRziB2o835to/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:300/w:298/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTU3NDkx/MTQtMTQwNTMwNDEy/NC0zNjExLmpwZWc.jpeg

scott seward, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 20:37 (one year ago) link

I listen to that Damned album all the time. The Black Album and Strawberries are a great combo.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 23:10 (one year ago) link

loving these. got the "dirty" 12-inch and it is going into my battle box for when i have to battle all other sucker DJs. there is a local group here called Boy Harsher and they are very popular and I could see them covering one of these. Boy Harsher playing in my basement one of the best shows I put on over the years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swKs2TsuIw0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukh8il7kEs0

scott seward, Thursday, 21 September 2023 18:33 (one year ago) link

finally found the time to catch up with this whole thing. great work scott and crew! <3

this is my humble offering to the thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui_2WQZLlQg
Recipe - Waterglide (1984)

NickB, Thursday, 21 September 2023 20:41 (one year ago) link

heck, have a bonus - don't really know who this guy was but it's like a one man OMD-meets-New Order:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQcObrAQ5Qk
Tony Martin – Barriers (1984)

NickB, Thursday, 21 September 2023 20:50 (one year ago) link

^ costs a quid in the UK btw and don't worry, there's an instrumental version on the b-side

NickB, Thursday, 21 September 2023 20:52 (one year ago) link

ooh i dig Recipe. its a warm synth bath. makes me curious about their other stuff.

scott seward, Thursday, 21 September 2023 20:54 (one year ago) link

> ooh i dig Recipe. its a warm synth bath. makes me curious about their other stuff

the first album (skinny dipping) is GREAT! more of the same, really good pop songs, they remind me a bit of the post-YMG band The Gist. one of the two people involved is Douglas Benford who is a longterm fixture in the london improv weirdo scene, mostly famously(?) under the name Si-{cut}.db

NickB, Thursday, 21 September 2023 21:01 (one year ago) link

^ when i say famous, i just mean he's probably been giving Wire magazine sub-editors a migraine for years with that moniker

NickB, Thursday, 21 September 2023 21:03 (one year ago) link

breaking out this one again - julian marshall's project after marshall-hain split up (M-H had a hit with 'dancing in the city' if you remember that). some big name steely dan-related session guys playing on it (rick derringer on guitar iirc?), songs are sharp art pop with great vocals. think that any lurking laura groves fans here would love it. might have been moderately successful in the US but it didn't do shit here and it took me ages to find a copy in the wild:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEHn7Tw-AD8
Eye To Eye - Progress Ahead (1982)

NickB, Thursday, 21 September 2023 22:09 (one year ago) link

oh man eye to eye are pretty common here and i must confess i don't listen to them but now i will! i don't know why i had it in my head that i didn't need to listen to them. brains are funny that way. i know i have some vinyl at the store.

scott seward, Thursday, 21 September 2023 23:58 (one year ago) link

Man i am listening to The Passage for the first time in a long time and they are just as weird as ever! For All And None. what a record. they totally made art rock. they could have been called Art Bears. they liked art. i remember first hearing them and thinking i was gonna get something completely different. i don't know what. more Cherry Red cute or jangly or something? I have no idea. but The Passage aren't cute. I feel like close listening is rewarded. They really go places.

https://i.discogs.com/7-6hlv3P91x5wXOauyV0oVxir6LUrXrLsgQqngvdAX4/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:590/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTg0NDcz/MS0xMTY0Njc5OTg0/LmpwZWc.jpeg

scott seward, Friday, 22 September 2023 00:12 (eleven months ago) link

Def a range of sound. Never quite cherry red twee but an evolution from the fall diy post punk poppier new wave through some minimal art rock post punk stuff. XOYO prob the hit?

dan selzer, Friday, 22 September 2023 03:31 (eleven months ago) link

The Passage always seemed like a band (was it just 1 dude at first?) who had read a lot about music but had never actually heard any music, so were just guessing what it actually sounded like

enochroot, Friday, 22 September 2023 11:47 (eleven months ago) link

hip rebels is my favourite passage tune atm, its very fad gadgety:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaWqlT14e1g

NickB, Friday, 22 September 2023 12:16 (eleven months ago) link

huh i don't recall em but i def hear the fall postpunk minimal artrock named above. it's pretty nice imo.

okay smarty go to a party (Hunt3r), Friday, 22 September 2023 14:06 (eleven months ago) link

The Fall connection is direct, they were founded by Tony Friel who formed the Fall but left after the first single and appeared on the first two Passage singles, which were on Object Music, one of Manchesters other indie labels. But this belongs in the forgotten 70s thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvVLPhEiFPM

I think after Friel left it was Dick Witts vehicle. Interesting history with the Manchester Musicians Collective and Object Music connections, as well as the Fall.

dan selzer, Friday, 22 September 2023 14:22 (eleven months ago) link

they can be confounding. and not afraid to be unlikable. which i respect. they could have just thrown off some hot post-punk basslines and disaffected mumble rants and called it a day but the later records are weirder than that and i think that's why they sometimes (inadvertently? or on purpose? i'd have to read some retrospective interview with one of the members) remind of of some Rock in Opposition people. i think this is especially true of the Degenerates album.

scott seward, Friday, 22 September 2023 14:28 (eleven months ago) link

"Witts had trained as a classical percussionist and briefly played with the prestigious Hallé Orchestra; he was also a founder member of the Manchester Musicians' Collective."

scott seward, Friday, 22 September 2023 14:29 (eleven months ago) link

seems like it would be an interesting history to write about. maybe someone already has. at the very least i should check and see if there is a good interview with dick witts.

scott seward, Friday, 22 September 2023 14:38 (eleven months ago) link

really long interview as a google doc if you scroll down his page:

https://richardwitts.com/selected-papers-and-talks/

scott seward, Friday, 22 September 2023 14:42 (eleven months ago) link

Object Music is an awesome label and scene and a discussion for a different thread.

dan selzer, Friday, 22 September 2023 15:21 (eleven months ago) link

!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo5bY7CM-YY

scott seward, Saturday, 23 September 2023 15:54 (eleven months ago) link

making the best of a bad situation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkZGw_9xcRo

scott seward, Saturday, 23 September 2023 17:28 (eleven months ago) link

for all your Roland needs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EIxNXsiuXw

scott seward, Monday, 25 September 2023 16:52 (eleven months ago) link

Stepping back to the Passage, nearly all the members posted on the thread on here at one point, and I still think all my old AMG reviews are up...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 September 2023 17:37 (eleven months ago) link

why do some albums repel me? like the cactus world news album. urban beaches. maybe i've just seen it too much in too many dollar bins. i should just put it on. what's the worst that could happen?

scott seward, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 16:32 (eleven months ago) link

this isn't so bad! they were no bolshoi but its better than listening to the alarm. (you can put that blurb on any cactus world news reissue...)

scott seward, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 16:47 (eleven months ago) link

I taped that one off a friend when I was 16. It's decent for what it is, there were far worse bands that got signed in the hope they were gonna be the next U2

blazin' squab (NickB), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 16:57 (eleven months ago) link

And talking of U2, I *think* I'm right in saying that they were one of the bands that got released on Bono's label, Mother Records. Most of the stuff on that label was garbage, but if you ever see this one, grab it cos its an absolute treasure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9GnqZ3JkKE
Operating Theatre - Spring Is Coming

blazin' squab (NickB), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 17:03 (eleven months ago) link

this single rules! wow. there is an Isolation Ward CD compilation but i don't see a copy for sale in the U.S. just one more reason why this country sucks. Thanks, Trump!

scott seward, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 18:09 (eleven months ago) link

i will make a note of Operating Theatre.

i'm at my store now and we are closed so i can really blast stuff on the turntable and blasting stuff is what i am really good at. Isolation Ward. Who knew? other than Dan Selzer. he probably knew.

scott seward, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 18:11 (eleven months ago) link

and one more thing: as someone who still occasionally plays the first Easterhouse album for enjoyment, i would never throw stones at a Cactus World News fan. or a Screaming Blue Messiahs fan either.

i think i did buy that IRS Records Alarm EP when it came out for "The Stand" which they drummed into my head on college radio. and then i did buy that debut album but by then...yeah...no.

scott seward, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 18:14 (eleven months ago) link

holy shit exactly my track on alarm too

blurry picture of mostly amorphous feelings (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 18:22 (eleven months ago) link


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