we listen so fast: forgotten/unkown/unloved 80s we are listening to.

cool, i'm glad you listened to it! it's a wonderful album.

I listened to that album a lot around 2005-2008, thank you for reminding me of it. "Small Stones" is hitting the spot.

"Thirty Thousand Feet Over China" scratches the same itch for me as Alvvays or maybe even Life Without Buildings -- the hooks aren't super obvious at first, but the melancholy vibes kept me kept me coming back, until it wormed its way into my subconscious, and then it finally clicked that I've loved it all along.

Anyway, given the response on that one, The Passions probably weren't underloved.

Does anyone know if Sanctuary (the next album) is worth seeking out?

speaking of "velveteen" it makes the cut on this indie top 20 cd88 comp that i just pulled out of a box.

https://i.discogs.com/j6H52yepYIJqwZmUfVPTS76PN64FxqzmYDLfCL9QZ5k/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:434/w:569/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTUyMjQ2/NS0xMTg1NDQ5NTEx/LmpwZWc.jpeg

Those Beechwood indie comps were pretty good, kinda the way I was able to hear a lot of British bands for the first time.

not forgotten, but when was the last time you listened to a damned album? hmmmmm...???

listening to a 1982 u.k. reissue of the black album with the totally black cover. i love that cover. kinda like how i got a 1986 reissue of agnostic front's victim in pain recently which also has a completely black cover instead of the original sad and scary cover.

best thing about this copy is it still has the poster! the damned were so cool. here's the poster:

https://i.discogs.com/2VpDG7SeGGUom724Fna8Yhs9NwCoyiWwpazt9Kr6gWw/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:434/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTQ4NDkw/MjktMTYxNjY2OTAw/NS0yOTA4LmpwZWc.jpeg

OMG, I need a big frame! This came in a Go-Betweens promo LP. My spirit animal and life coach Linda Manz and the Go-Betweens. A match made in heaven!

https://scontent-lga3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/380938141_10161467144832137_2003333596725731574_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=49d041&_nc_ohc=iZW5kuIWKh4AX8cCfHz&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-2.xx&oh=00_AfD0bTjEooB_yRSp-pRyhDbNv9LGe-O-7weCDy1WaKNUeQ&oe=650FCF5D

Pee Wee!

keeping this. or at least bringing it home for further research. its insane. i don't know how to describe it really. it sort of belongs on Lovely Music, Ltd. Red Grooms cover!

https://www.discogs.com/release/5749114-Kenward-Elmslie-Palais-Bimbo-Lounge-Show

https://i.discogs.com/PdbNzTI5l16B5d4U9-vaom9MzgyPybHIRziB2o835to/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:300/w:298/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTU3NDkx/MTQtMTQwNTMwNDEy/NC0zNjExLmpwZWc.jpeg

I listen to that Damned album all the time. The Black Album and Strawberries are a great combo.

loving these. got the "dirty" 12-inch and it is going into my battle box for when i have to battle all other sucker DJs. there is a local group here called Boy Harsher and they are very popular and I could see them covering one of these. Boy Harsher playing in my basement one of the best shows I put on over the years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swKs2TsuIw0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukh8il7kEs0

finally found the time to catch up with this whole thing. great work scott and crew! <3

this is my humble offering to the thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui_2WQZLlQg
Recipe - Waterglide (1984)

heck, have a bonus - don't really know who this guy was but it's like a one man OMD-meets-New Order:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQcObrAQ5Qk
Tony Martin – Barriers (1984)

^ costs a quid in the UK btw and don't worry, there's an instrumental version on the b-side

ooh i dig Recipe. its a warm synth bath. makes me curious about their other stuff.

> ooh i dig Recipe. its a warm synth bath. makes me curious about their other stuff

the first album (skinny dipping) is GREAT! more of the same, really good pop songs, they remind me a bit of the post-YMG band The Gist. one of the two people involved is Douglas Benford who is a longterm fixture in the london improv weirdo scene, mostly famously(?) under the name Si-{cut}.db

^ when i say famous, i just mean he's probably been giving Wire magazine sub-editors a migraine for years with that moniker

breaking out this one again - julian marshall's project after marshall-hain split up (M-H had a hit with 'dancing in the city' if you remember that). some big name steely dan-related session guys playing on it (rick derringer on guitar iirc?), songs are sharp art pop with great vocals. think that any lurking laura groves fans here would love it. might have been moderately successful in the US but it didn't do shit here and it took me ages to find a copy in the wild:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEHn7Tw-AD8
Eye To Eye - Progress Ahead (1982)

oh man eye to eye are pretty common here and i must confess i don't listen to them but now i will! i don't know why i had it in my head that i didn't need to listen to them. brains are funny that way. i know i have some vinyl at the store.

Man i am listening to The Passage for the first time in a long time and they are just as weird as ever! For All And None. what a record. they totally made art rock. they could have been called Art Bears. they liked art. i remember first hearing them and thinking i was gonna get something completely different. i don't know what. more Cherry Red cute or jangly or something? I have no idea. but The Passage aren't cute. I feel like close listening is rewarded. They really go places.

https://i.discogs.com/7-6hlv3P91x5wXOauyV0oVxir6LUrXrLsgQqngvdAX4/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:590/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTg0NDcz/MS0xMTY0Njc5OTg0/LmpwZWc.jpeg

Def a range of sound. Never quite cherry red twee but an evolution from the fall diy post punk poppier new wave through some minimal art rock post punk stuff. XOYO prob the hit?

The Passage always seemed like a band (was it just 1 dude at first?) who had read a lot about music but had never actually heard any music, so were just guessing what it actually sounded like

hip rebels is my favourite passage tune atm, its very fad gadgety:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaWqlT14e1g

huh i don't recall em but i def hear the fall postpunk minimal artrock named above. it's pretty nice imo.

The Fall connection is direct, they were founded by Tony Friel who formed the Fall but left after the first single and appeared on the first two Passage singles, which were on Object Music, one of Manchesters other indie labels. But this belongs in the forgotten 70s thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvVLPhEiFPM

I think after Friel left it was Dick Witts vehicle. Interesting history with the Manchester Musicians Collective and Object Music connections, as well as the Fall.

they can be confounding. and not afraid to be unlikable. which i respect. they could have just thrown off some hot post-punk basslines and disaffected mumble rants and called it a day but the later records are weirder than that and i think that's why they sometimes (inadvertently? or on purpose? i'd have to read some retrospective interview with one of the members) remind of of some Rock in Opposition people. i think this is especially true of the Degenerates album.

"Witts had trained as a classical percussionist and briefly played with the prestigious Hallé Orchestra; he was also a founder member of the Manchester Musicians' Collective."

seems like it would be an interesting history to write about. maybe someone already has. at the very least i should check and see if there is a good interview with dick witts.

really long interview as a google doc if you scroll down his page:

https://richardwitts.com/selected-papers-and-talks/

Object Music is an awesome label and scene and a discussion for a different thread.

!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo5bY7CM-YY

making the best of a bad situation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkZGw_9xcRo

for all your Roland needs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EIxNXsiuXw

Stepping back to the Passage, nearly all the members posted on the thread on here at one point, and I still think all my old AMG reviews are up...

why do some albums repel me? like the cactus world news album. urban beaches. maybe i've just seen it too much in too many dollar bins. i should just put it on. what's the worst that could happen?

this isn't so bad! they were no bolshoi but its better than listening to the alarm. (you can put that blurb on any cactus world news reissue...)

I taped that one off a friend when I was 16. It's decent for what it is, there were far worse bands that got signed in the hope they were gonna be the next U2

And talking of U2, I *think* I'm right in saying that they were one of the bands that got released on Bono's label, Mother Records. Most of the stuff on that label was garbage, but if you ever see this one, grab it cos its an absolute treasure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9GnqZ3JkKE
Operating Theatre - Spring Is Coming

new fave band!!!

https://i.discogs.com/rIwochCjhgGiB53wNhxJ6VUaaQDAck8zvV0uau7FZO4/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:579/w:567/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTE4Nzc0/MS0xMTQ5MjczNTM4/LmpwZWc.jpeg

this single rules! wow. there is an Isolation Ward CD compilation but i don't see a copy for sale in the U.S. just one more reason why this country sucks. Thanks, Trump!

i will make a note of Operating Theatre.

i'm at my store now and we are closed so i can really blast stuff on the turntable and blasting stuff is what i am really good at. Isolation Ward. Who knew? other than Dan Selzer. he probably knew.

and one more thing: as someone who still occasionally plays the first Easterhouse album for enjoyment, i would never throw stones at a Cactus World News fan. or a Screaming Blue Messiahs fan either.

i think i did buy that IRS Records Alarm EP when it came out for "The Stand" which they drummed into my head on college radio. and then i did buy that debut album but by then...yeah...no.

holy shit exactly my track on alarm too

i can't believe how much promo money Geffen spent on Peter Case and that album. what the hell did they think would happen with it? omg, the guy from the Plimsouls has a new album out!! the amount of money probably pales in comparison to how much Columbia later spent to make Pete Yorn a huge huge star. sooooo much money spent on Pete Yorn. its a wild world we live in. Peters haven't paid since Frampton came alive.

https://i.discogs.com/R29L7lXkKK7IqxX4GbZXLX5l7PUsF6lbPUxSus-8988/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:576/w:583/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTMyODE2/MjQtMTMyMzc4NzQ3/MC5qcGVn.jpeg

My next door neighbor sang the Alarm's "Strength" at the high school talent show when i was a freshman... I'm going to have to listen to that now, because there's no way the actual track can be as colossal as it is my memory.

I also owned the Alarm EP because of a good Rolling Stone review, but immediately lost interest after that

Update: "Strength" is still massive.

this album is cool! i don't think i have a favorite record on the Mammoth Records label. now i do.

https://i.discogs.com/c2OKdOlUCTFBjh2cKgxHmqP8r2bemRHzs9wzMrgEBqs/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:592/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTI4ODQ1/MzEtMTU0ODI4NTEw/My00NTIxLmpwZWc.jpeg

I always get Pete Yorn and Pete Droge confused when I think of them, which is almost never. Both Petes with odd last names.

Oh and Pete Krebs too.