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“Quite not right” sounds like a British album title

brimstead, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 15:27 (one year ago) link

that one was a minor hit in the UK and fairly fondly remembered by blokes of a certain age. the singer was a music journalist and wrote for melody maker amongst other things, and one of the other members went on to start transglobal underground. couple of their early records go for decent money i think and are kind of interesting but none of it really grabs me tbh. kind of make me think of a less charismatic pulp?

blazin' squab (NickB), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 15:33 (one year ago) link

okay another true confession. i have never listened to a comsat angels album. i know! but i really do get to everything eventually. and i have a serious question: were Chameleons influenced by this album? or the first Comsat album that i still haven't heard? because the first side of this album has a REALLY big chameleons vibe. especially on the last two songs. but maybe everyone just sounded like everyone back then. i haven't read a lot of chameleons interviews on purpose. they are too revered by me. i like to have a little mystery. they must have loved this album. i'm keeping this. the last song on side one is so awesome. okay the first song on side two totally could be a chameleons song too. its official. cool though! the first three comsat albums didn't come out in the u.s. i don't know if you knew that. in my defense. you just don't see them around much.

the comsat angels - sleep no more (polydor - 1981)

https://i.discogs.com/N9a1tWMGvXDRBWP4fI59h8GCwZltdwG7DszPholN9UY/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTY5NDc1/Mi0xNTY3MDI4MDI2/LTkwOTUuanBlZw.jpeg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alL3pooF_L0

scott seward, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 15:34 (one year ago) link

love that one, recently got a copy

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 15:35 (one year ago) link

fantastic album that

blazin' squab (NickB), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 15:35 (one year ago) link

and i have a serious question: were Chameleons influenced by this album?

i don't know, but i reckon U2 definitely were - just have a listen to 'dark parade' and then listen to 'bullet the blue sky'

blazin' squab (NickB), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 15:39 (one year ago) link

massive drum sound on that track you posted (and all over the album tbh). almost even sounds like gated reverb on the snare - was this the album where they recorded the drums in a stairwell of the office block that one of them worked in?

blazin' squab (NickB), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 15:43 (one year ago) link

anyone ever heard this one of theirs before? from 1980, sounds exactly like a UK version of Mission of Burma:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBvISx83JOs
Comsat Angels - Home Is the Range

blazin' squab (NickB), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 15:52 (one year ago) link

crazy how similar it is imo, even the weird tape noises are there

blazin' squab (NickB), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 15:55 (one year ago) link

sleep no more is a total desert island disc for me

brimstead, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 15:55 (one year ago) link

comsats opened for u2 in early 80s iirc, you can pretty much trace the sound shift

brimstead, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 15:56 (one year ago) link

There's a whole genre of sort of post-Joy Division/Factory post-punk/new wave of that type that you could put u2 and Simple Minds in but mostly talking about bands like Comsat Angels and Chameleons but also The Sound and Modern Eon and most obscure of all of that but some of the very best and my life's mission to put them in the conversation, is The Lines.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 16:06 (one year ago) link

i like that modern eon album a lot.

scott seward, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 16:31 (one year ago) link

and The Sound everyone should like.

i remember your Lines love!

scott seward, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 16:31 (one year ago) link

never heard this one! it's weird! oi! #westham #foreverblowingbubbles

the rejects - quiet storm (heavy metal - 1984)

https://i.discogs.com/zz6YXD9cDguedzbJJ9l6jUiU2GQoaxgN0fOH3BpbLfI/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:597/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTIzNDYy/NTYtMTQ4MjA2MTQ5/OC00NDg3LmpwZWc.jpeg

scott seward, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link

what are your fave oi! groups? i like: 4skins, angelic upstarts, blitz, the business, cockney rejects, the ejected, infa riot, oi polloi, oppressed, sham 69, u.k. subs. uh, so, most of the big ones. oppressed, 4skins, and the business might be my real faves. though i'm always finding more that i like. section 5. i don't listen to cock sparrer much but i dig their vibe. i'm not a big adicts fan. i'm not big on "novelty" bands except for the legendary toy dolls. not a big splodgenessabounds fan. i love slaughter & the dogs. i love that last resort debut. i will pretty much listen to any captain oi! comp. or any secret records comp. even some rock-0-rama stuff if it isn't scary. though ANY oi! sung in german sounds scary and i stay away from it. (i only listen to the early 80s stuff on that label and to be honest the best stuff they put out is all that awesome finnish stuff. appendix. riistetyt. terveet kadet. finnish spunk/hard beat is one of the greatest punk comps ever made.) and yes i like the chiswick stuff and back with a bang by you know who but i don't make a big deal about it and i got rid of my vinyl years ago. got them from my friend who was a boston skin (a jewish boston skin!) and basically gave them away to a friend who is a soul and reggae dj and skin but who is very realistic about history and a good egg. (and yes i wish every punk single sounded as incredible as back with a bang on vinyl but that is my last word on that band ever for as long as i shall live.)

like d-beat, i'm mostly in it for the beats! that's why i'm a hardcore techno fan. the oppressed debut might be my platonic oi! ideal.

there now you know way too much about my oi! likes.

scott seward, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 17:54 (one year ago) link

xp wtaf?

colonel poo to thread

blazin' squab (NickB), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 17:55 (one year ago) link

I love this! I thought it was gonna be hokey but its awesome. the guitars are totally cool. the vocals. everything. do the herky jerk! they have a full album on enigma that i've never heard. it couldn't possibly be better than this.

Volumatix - Volume One (Republic Recording Corporation - 1982)

https://i.discogs.com/OpM3SvdtJWErAgcidCx6s6uUdljlgRGSb3S7x3nSRjY/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:599/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTE4ODMy/MTUtMTU5OTY4NTE3/NS0yODczLmpwZWc.jpeg

https://i.discogs.com/jUlOTuURyAFcFP9LVeKCXg6Yr3OWApAM7uwQy4hxgRY/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:479/w:375/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9BLTE1MzUz/MjYtMTQyNjYwOTk0/NC0yNzY4LmpwZWc.jpeg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHTmNBKhllc

scott seward, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 19:47 (one year ago) link

I will definitely check out the lines

I don’t know oi at all but I love 80s d beat made by pacific vegan Scandinavians

brimstead, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 19:55 (one year ago) link

pacifist not pacific

brimstead, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 19:55 (one year ago) link

for the Lines you have to listen to all three release.

Memory Span collects the singles from the melancholic power pop classic White Night throught the angsty post-punk of On the Air/Cool Snap into the more dubbed out new wave of Nerve Pylon.

Flood Bank collects the two LPs which are firmly in the "post-Hanentt" world with as much emphasis on atmosphere and rhythm as songwriting.

Hull Down is the lost "3rd album" featuring material from the early to mid 80s with more electronics being introduced in a manor not unlike what say New Order or Cabaret Voltaire might've been doing circa 82.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 20:07 (one year ago) link

at last a band i have heard of : Furniture.
they were a thing re certain aspects of the UK music press for a while.

mark e, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 20:10 (one year ago) link

The Lines are great! Listening now for the first time & wow… Omnivore or LITA or someone should do a reissue series. Not like the records are impossible to get, but they’re not exactly common either. And it’s be great for Memory Span to be available on vinyl.

The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 19 October 2023 14:09 (one year ago) link

metal break! this album is so wonderful. power/trad metal but a deep dark and delicious (and heavy and crunchy) power/trad metal. one of the best of the 80s imo. wish more trad bands would take this album as their template instead of the super-muscle manowar or shiny euro-power thing. nothing against dragons i just like stuff like this better. from an era when big ugly guys from florida were doing god's work. satan being god obviously.

iron cross - s/t (private press/no label - 1986)

https://i.discogs.com/D3Jqr0xCwcuO5wKyvUWpmrYKbmslPoOiljSrlTIT7uk/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:563/w:580/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTMyNDAw/NzctMTMyMTg5NzQz/OS5qcGVn.jpeg

https://i.discogs.com/9j0xiTi3820yyR6UjixQm4Lev8IVl9kGps7P2n2nEIc/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:568/w:568/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9BLTE0NzY3/MDQtMTUxMTQyOTU1/My04NDM5LmpwZWc.jpeg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzHwtnvhdag

scott seward, Thursday, 19 October 2023 14:15 (one year ago) link

"Omnivore or LITA or someone should do a reissue series"

OMG someone on this thread DID a reissue series!

scott seward, Thursday, 19 October 2023 14:16 (one year ago) link

his name rhymes with...stan melzer.

scott seward, Thursday, 19 October 2023 14:17 (one year ago) link

Yeah, would be great for Memory Span and the LPs to be on vinyl. Get in touch and I can try to help.

We did the CDs during a time when CDs was the way to go for such things.

Some of the original records are easier to find than others.

dan selzer, Thursday, 19 October 2023 14:37 (one year ago) link

!!!!!

The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 19 October 2023 15:59 (one year ago) link

OMG someone on this thread DID a reissue series!
his name rhymes with...stan melzer.

Searching on this led me to this dj set, which has been soundtracking my morning, and seems fairly thread-relevant.

enochroot, Thursday, 19 October 2023 16:12 (one year ago) link

there's a bunch of those up there but can't find the one where I actually do play the Lines. It's on soundcloud though:

https://soundcloud.com/thelotradio/superimpositions-special-guest-dan-selzer-the-lot-radio-10-24-2022

not really for this thread though, maybe a bit, all last 70s/early 80s post-punk/new wave 7"s.

The other shows on youtube are a variety. Plenty of italo-disco and post-punk. Some house. Some Scott Walker. One that's all electro and hip-hop.

I just get to guest when my friend is out of time. I can't get a regular show on the Lot for some reason.

dan selzer, Thursday, 19 October 2023 16:57 (one year ago) link

oh that youtube clip linked to, for half of it I have the Lines Cool Snap ep pulled out sitting in my bag, but I don't think I played it.

dan selzer, Thursday, 19 October 2023 17:01 (one year ago) link

talking of lines, anyone here familiar with the planets? liverpool new wave band, they did a great single called “line” in (alright) 1979 and their one album from 1980 has some great moments, especially “iron for the iron”. great arty pop!

houdini said, Thursday, 19 October 2023 17:40 (one year ago) link

I didn't know 99 luftballons Nena was in an earlier band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gWMOQGTtUE

the Englisch lyrics are weird and also mention balloons.

Philip Nunez, Saturday, 21 October 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link

that woman was just obsessed with balloons!

scott seward, Saturday, 21 October 2023 17:38 (one year ago) link

that is a really cute video.

scott seward, Saturday, 21 October 2023 17:39 (one year ago) link

what the......hell. i think this did something weird to my brain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c0EUpLGg0U

scott seward, Saturday, 21 October 2023 20:20 (one year ago) link

i don't know that maisonettes record that you posted - the only tune of theirs anyone at all knows is 'heartbreak avenue' which was top ten in the UK and is kind of an 80s take on early 60s doo wop/soul, and it's possibly a bit naff really, but i've a huge soft spot for it all the same:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-t66drtfWs

blazin' squab (NickB), Saturday, 21 October 2023 20:21 (one year ago) link

obviously the racial stereotypes in that freida parton video are awful and dumb, but i really enjoyed the song itself! (probably wouldnt rush to play it to anyone else though)

blazin' squab (NickB), Saturday, 21 October 2023 20:29 (one year ago) link

That's Dolly Parton's sister?!

enochroot, Saturday, 21 October 2023 20:31 (one year ago) link

wow, yes!

blazin' squab (NickB), Saturday, 21 October 2023 20:34 (one year ago) link

maisonettes were pretty good. I'm convinced their one album is all demos polished up. everything sounds a bit worn-out and transparent including "heartache avenue".

houdini said, Sunday, 22 October 2023 17:56 (one year ago) link

The singer from the Maisonettes had been in City Boy a few years before, the sound of young Birmingham c1978 (or perhaps not)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pykQ7pxFBQ

ISTR he died a few years back, RIP.

Tim, Sunday, 22 October 2023 21:17 (one year ago) link

i love city boy. at one point i had all their albums. the poor man's 10cc.

scott seward, Sunday, 22 October 2023 22:02 (one year ago) link

not an easy one to find by a long shot. david wertman is on some really great 70s records that are even harder to find. i'm still looking for a nice copy of steve reid's Odyssey of the Oblong Square record that he plays on. anyway, he was cool and this is another rare thing. a free/spiritual jazz flexi-disc! and it sounds really good. eva-tone soundsheets for the win! he made another one the same year. a good cheap way to get your music out.

https://i.discogs.com/Afjv570r5Ohl531CdoLi6hing6tXurZKsK5K9WZQlhY/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:564/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTYzOTM5/MjktMTU1MTI5Njg5/My02ODk3LnBuZw.jpeg

https://i.discogs.com/IlM_3PhNWGCgP0JQKTV4C4kBIxAEasUQ5mA16IZMJSI/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:568/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTYzOTM5/MjktMTU1MTI5Njg5/Ni05MjA0LnBuZw.jpeg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMIc1ZYBGRo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_iaqihk6bo

scott seward, Monday, 23 October 2023 01:36 (one year ago) link

^ stellar stuff!

blazin' squab (NickB), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:34 (one year ago) link

Record of the day! I love this. They are connected to the band Red Guitars and I have an album by THEM on deck that i have never heard. I don't even know how to describe this one. Or maybe i'm just too tired to. Sounds great on vinyl. It's not on Youtube! They were from Hull.

The Planet Wilson - In The Best Of All Possible Worlds (Virgin - 1988)

https://i.discogs.com/nxr3BkfwFsn_vFBNsi5JX5aYlVjPc-Szq6dhbA3XkzI/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:311/w:320/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTU2NTI3/MDAtMTQwNDMyMjgy/My0zNjc0LmpwZWc.jpeg

scott seward, Thursday, 26 October 2023 00:41 (one year ago) link

its like 3 bucks on discogs. probably even less if you are in Hull.

scott seward, Thursday, 26 October 2023 00:42 (one year ago) link

stuff i wasn't feeling that i'm not going to go into:

alliance - s/t (handshake - 1982)

badbob - now is reaction (incas records - 1988)

the atom smashers - first strike (pathfinder - 1986) (monte cazazza! but, uh, no thanks.)

justo almario - plumbline (meadowlark - 1987)

nancy and the antlers - presents 101 heresies (psychotic-plastic - 1989)

the pedaljets - today today (twilight - 1988)

scott seward, Thursday, 26 October 2023 02:00 (one year ago) link


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