The 2023 End of Year music lists thread

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the same music by a not white person would be rightfully ignored.

kinda boggled at how wrong this is

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 1 December 2023 15:03 (eleven months ago) link

usually annoyed by the ldr love in these lists but this was far and away her best album imo

is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Friday, 1 December 2023 15:15 (eleven months ago) link

Manchester's Piccadilly Records

Piccadilly Records EOY Review Top 100 Albums Of The Year.
https://www.piccadillyrecords.com/counter/feature.php?feature=1378

1 - SLOWDIVE
EVERYTHING IS ALIVE
DEAD OCEANS

2 - NABIHAH IQBAL
DREAMER
NINJA TUNE

selective highlights

10.OVERMONO - GOOD LIES
XL

11. NOURISHED BY TIME - EROTIC PROBIOTIC 2
SCENIC ROUTE

15 - CAROLINE POLACHEK
DESIRE, I WANT TO TURN INTO YOU
PERPETUAL NOVICE

21 - YUSSEF DAYES
BLACK CLASSICAL MUSIC
BROWNSWOOD

23 - THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS
FOR THAT BEAUTIFUL FEELING
EMI

26 - SAY SHE SHE
SILVER
KARMA CHIEF RECORDS

27 - JAMES HOLDEN
IMAGINE THIS IS A HIGH DIMENSIONAL SPACE OF ALL POSSIBILITIES
BORDER COMMUNITY

40 - HARP
ALBION
BELLA UNION

42 - MANDY, INDIANA
I'VE SEEN A WAY
FIRE TALK

45 - GOGO PENGUIN
EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE OKAY
XXIM

58 - ONEOHTRIX POINT NEVER
AGAIN
WARP

71 - LADYTRON
TIME'S ARROW
COOKING VINYL

80 - SOFIA KOURTESIS
MADRES
NINJA TUNE

82 - ALISON GOLDFRAPP
THE LOVE INVENTION
SKINT

91 - FOREST SWORDS
BOLTED
NINJA TUNE

djmartian, Friday, 1 December 2023 15:21 (eleven months ago) link

re:

40 - HARP
ALBION
BELLA UNION

Tim Smith (ex-Midlake) tells us how The Cure, Cocteau Twins, The Sundays & more influenced his solo debut as Harp
https://www.brooklynvegan.com/tim-smith-ex-midlake-tells-us-how-the-cure-cocteau-twins-the-sundays-more-influenced-his-solo-debut-as-harp/

djmartian, Friday, 1 December 2023 16:02 (eleven months ago) link

usually annoyed by the ldr love in these lists but this was far and away her best album imo

It’s one of the best albums I’ve ever heard! Like the Big Thief album was last year.

I’m not ashamed to stan for my favorites… I’ve never loved music as much as some of the music I’ve loved in the past 10 years, for whatever reason

This field is required (morrisp), Friday, 1 December 2023 16:28 (eleven months ago) link

sufjan stevens has always been insufferable. time for some good old fashioned racism: the same music by a not white person would be rightfully ignored.

everyone's just going to let this go? i am not a sufjan fan but i'm not sure how "people only like him because he's white" is your main criticism (btw the album is dedicated to his dead black life partner)

na (NA), Friday, 1 December 2023 17:03 (eleven months ago) link

i thought this year was great but i spent a lot of time working myself out of my comfort zones

going by my lists the meagerest year in recent memory is 2021. prob for obvious rasons

ivy., Friday, 1 December 2023 17:20 (eleven months ago) link

the same music by a not white person would be rightfully ignored


have you ever heard of frank ocean?

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 December 2023 17:35 (eleven months ago) link

i don't really have anything to defend here. sufjan will continue to do just fine without my attention. i'm being a bit flippant about it, but it's about time for ol' suffy to get a career ending critical beatdown imo. and i'm sorry/not sorry: most of these feelings i have are about white artists. none of them have anything new or worthwhile to say, but continue to thrive because of their milque-y appeal. gross, no thank you.

"another slice of death, please." (Austin), Friday, 1 December 2023 18:05 (eleven months ago) link

I think most of the big year end lists agree with you and white guys ike Sufjannaise are basically outliers at this point

The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 1 December 2023 18:10 (eleven months ago) link

THEY’RE gross, huh?

Chris L, Friday, 1 December 2023 18:12 (eleven months ago) link

yes and smelly

budo jeru, Friday, 1 December 2023 18:16 (eleven months ago) link

none of them have anything new or worthwhile to say


i don’t even listen to his music, but the album is about his partner dying so this just seems untrue on an almost objective level. like, he absolutely has something new to say!

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 December 2023 18:22 (eleven months ago) link

i haven't heard his music in like 20 years, but really? "dae think white people music is bland?!" what year is this? embarrassing posts tbh

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 1 December 2023 18:26 (eleven months ago) link

"All white artists have nothing to say" is an insane thing to say

Indexed, Friday, 1 December 2023 18:29 (eleven months ago) link

i have to just assume that illinois being kinda twee made austin incandescent with rage 18 years ago and he still hasn't recovered or heard anything else by sufjan since then

ufo, Friday, 1 December 2023 18:35 (eleven months ago) link

Austin whenever someone writes an intimate concept album about their dead partner

https://i.etsystatic.com/36270455/r/il/c63a90/4152133450/il_fullxfull.4152133450_fqlf.jpg

The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 1 December 2023 18:39 (eleven months ago) link

we're in "that thing white people do..." territory here, right?

rob, Friday, 1 December 2023 18:42 (eleven months ago) link

i guess i truly have no idea what austin means by milquetoast because he's also mad at beyonce, who didn't even have an album this year. i have no idea how that makes sense as a criticism of her, and i didn't even care for renaissance that much

ufo, Friday, 1 December 2023 18:45 (eleven months ago) link

I'm all for more bands making albums that sound like Espers II but not sure why Lankum is hitting this year. Is everything ok across the pond? This is some pretty glum sounding stuff.

o. nate, Friday, 1 December 2023 19:04 (eleven months ago) link

if by glum you mean "fire is raining from the sky and we are all doomed so let's hold each other to remind ourselves that life had meaning," then yes

is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Friday, 1 December 2023 19:07 (eleven months ago) link

I guess Sleaford Mods and 2022 ILM AotY winner Real Lies are milquetoast too? Brb - gonna sell those records and delete from my hard drive

octobeard, Friday, 1 December 2023 19:20 (eleven months ago) link

I mean... I wouldn't even let Sleaford Mods anywhere near my hard drive in the first place, but I realize I'm in the minority about that. They aren't milquetoast tho, that's true.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 1 December 2023 19:41 (eleven months ago) link

John Robb's Louder than War have unveiled the EoY List

Louder The War Top 100 Albums of the Year 2023
https://louderthanwar.com/louder-than-war-albums-of-2023/

the only top 100 that will include all the following: Crime and the City Solution, Hawkwind, The Damned, Mudhoney, Rhoda Dakar, EBTGirl, Gorillaz, Sparks, Therapy, Orbital, Band of Holy Joy, DJ Shadow and Vince Clarke.

plus some right obscure / esoteric / who are they selections / I never knew this band existed.

Louder Than War’s Albums Of 2023 was compiled with votes from John Robb, Wayne Carey, Iain Key, Ged Babey, Nathan Whittle, Gordon Rutherford, Mark Ray, Jazz Hodge, Audrey Golden, Robin Boardman, Nathan Brown, Paul Scott-Bates, Jim Mumby, Ian Corbridge, Paul Clarke, Christopher Lloyd, Adam Brady, Paul Evangelista, Tim Cooper, Phil Newall, Andy Brown, Paul Grace, James Kilkenny, Neil Crud, Nigel Carr, Tiernan Canon, Melanie Smith, Gus Ironside, and Keith Chapman.

Mostly men (of a certain age) voted.

djmartian, Friday, 1 December 2023 20:04 (eleven months ago) link

do they have anything new to say?

is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Friday, 1 December 2023 20:14 (eleven months ago) link

Probably very little. Louder than War isn't on my wavelength with that list.

djmartian, Friday, 1 December 2023 20:18 (eleven months ago) link

I had no idea Gorillaz released an album this year huh

octobeard, Friday, 1 December 2023 20:37 (eleven months ago) link

have any of the lists had fire-toolz or katie dey on them? please wake me up when it is so

imago, Friday, 1 December 2023 20:40 (eleven months ago) link

or hell, is Big Billy Woods making any hay

imago, Friday, 1 December 2023 20:42 (eleven months ago) link

or hopefully-ILX-champ Tirzah

imago, Friday, 1 December 2023 20:42 (eleven months ago) link

god these lists are all such fucking trash

imago, Friday, 1 December 2023 20:43 (eleven months ago) link

billy woods (and armand hammer) made the gorilla vs bear list. tirzah too, i think

is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Friday, 1 December 2023 20:44 (eleven months ago) link

all these lists except gvb are all such fucking trash

imago, Friday, 1 December 2023 20:46 (eleven months ago) link

rolling stone songs list: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/best-songs-of-2023-1234879541

is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Friday, 1 December 2023 20:55 (eleven months ago) link

not great or anything, but i do appreciate rolling stone for being the only mainstream list to give latin artists the time of day

is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Friday, 1 December 2023 20:55 (eleven months ago) link

even just keeping it to pop...jim legxacy, katie gately, hannah diamond, l'rain, anjimile, algiers, alice longyu gao, salvia, ly trang, marina herlop, rxk nephew, hemlocke springs, diana starshine...and those are just the ones I like...there is greatness everywhere and these publications couldn't give a shit, it's fucking foul

imago, Friday, 1 December 2023 20:57 (eleven months ago) link

hemlocke springs is in the rolling stone list haha, but yes, these names are criminally underrepresented. i think gvb is the only one so far to rank jim legxcy

is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Friday, 1 December 2023 20:58 (eleven months ago) link

Never heard of most of the music on the Louder Than War list, but this blurb is an all-time say-nothing champion:

Almost 35 years in, Therapy? have produced an album that surely qualifies as one of their best in a while. There have been ups and downs throughout yet Cairns, McKeegan, and Cooper have pulled off a fine example of anthemic tunes that will leave you wanting more.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Friday, 1 December 2023 21:05 (eleven months ago) link

"surely qualifies as one of their best in a while" should never publish.

alpine static, Friday, 1 December 2023 21:14 (eleven months ago) link

also, absolutely embarrassing posts by Austin

alpine static, Friday, 1 December 2023 21:14 (eleven months ago) link

not great or anything, but i do appreciate rolling stone for being the only mainstream list to give latin artists the time of day

― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Friday, December 1, 2023 2:55 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Always more country than most other lists, too. They try their best to capture the zeitgeist, I guess.

Indexed, Friday, 1 December 2023 21:19 (eleven months ago) link

I always forget that Therapy? aren’t a numetal band (#millenial)

brimstead, Friday, 1 December 2023 21:22 (eleven months ago) link

Out of morbid curiosity I listened to as much of that Therapy? album as I could take — two and a half songs. It's worse than the new Helmet album, which I had to listen to all the way through to review for The Wire.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Friday, 1 December 2023 22:01 (eleven months ago) link

hmm... are you guys sure you actually love music?

corrs unplugged, Friday, 1 December 2023 22:26 (eleven months ago) link

was surprised to see the Jam City place so high on the Gorilla Vs Bear list, but then remembered that i didn’t listen to anything else for a few weeks this summer— perfect record in certain ways

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 1 December 2023 22:47 (eleven months ago) link

how is anybody supposed to read the GvB list ... fuck the internet tbh

budo jeru, Friday, 1 December 2023 22:52 (eleven months ago) link

what's the issue supposed to be

ufo, Friday, 1 December 2023 23:16 (eleven months ago) link

gvb list is more interesting cos it's the work of one person who seems to have a fairly wide (and for better or worse sophisticated) taste and who listens to a lot of obscurities. would still probably rather cut to the chase and see ufo's or vc's personal lists. ah well, not long

imago, Friday, 1 December 2023 23:26 (eleven months ago) link

one person who should absolutely post here, why don't they post here

imago, Friday, 1 December 2023 23:27 (eleven months ago) link

Esquire and exclaim! Also have songs lists already.

Here’s the aggregate for songs

https://www.albumoftheyear.org/songs/best/2023/ Hope it works if not add / at the end

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 1 December 2023 23:57 (eleven months ago) link


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