The 2023 End of Year music lists thread

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40 - HARP
ALBION
BELLA UNION

Tim Smith (ex-Midlake) tells us how The Cure, Cocteau Twins, The Sundays & more influenced his solo debut as Harp
https://www.brooklynvegan.com/tim-smith-ex-midlake-tells-us-how-the-cure-cocteau-twins-the-sundays-more-influenced-his-solo-debut-as-harp/

usually annoyed by the ldr love in these lists but this was far and away her best album imo

It’s one of the best albums I’ve ever heard! Like the Big Thief album was last year.

I’m not ashamed to stan for my favorites… I’ve never loved music as much as some of the music I’ve loved in the past 10 years, for whatever reason

sufjan stevens has always been insufferable. time for some good old fashioned racism: the same music by a not white person would be rightfully ignored.

everyone's just going to let this go? i am not a sufjan fan but i'm not sure how "people only like him because he's white" is your main criticism (btw the album is dedicated to his dead black life partner)

i thought this year was great but i spent a lot of time working myself out of my comfort zones

going by my lists the meagerest year in recent memory is 2021. prob for obvious rasons

the same music by a not white person would be rightfully ignored

i don't really have anything to defend here. sufjan will continue to do just fine without my attention. i'm being a bit flippant about it, but it's about time for ol' suffy to get a career ending critical beatdown imo. and i'm sorry/not sorry: most of these feelings i have are about white artists. none of them have anything new or worthwhile to say, but continue to thrive because of their milque-y appeal. gross, no thank you.

I think most of the big year end lists agree with you and white guys ike Sufjannaise are basically outliers at this point

THEY’RE gross, huh?

yes and smelly

none of them have anything new or worthwhile to say

i haven't heard his music in like 20 years, but really? "dae think white people music is bland?!" what year is this? embarrassing posts tbh

"All white artists have nothing to say" is an insane thing to say

i have to just assume that illinois being kinda twee made austin incandescent with rage 18 years ago and he still hasn't recovered or heard anything else by sufjan since then

Austin whenever someone writes an intimate concept album about their dead partner

https://i.etsystatic.com/36270455/r/il/c63a90/4152133450/il_fullxfull.4152133450_fqlf.jpg

we're in "that thing white people do..." territory here, right?

i guess i truly have no idea what austin means by milquetoast because he's also mad at beyonce, who didn't even have an album this year. i have no idea how that makes sense as a criticism of her, and i didn't even care for renaissance that much

I'm all for more bands making albums that sound like Espers II but not sure why Lankum is hitting this year. Is everything ok across the pond? This is some pretty glum sounding stuff.

if by glum you mean "fire is raining from the sky and we are all doomed so let's hold each other to remind ourselves that life had meaning," then yes

I guess Sleaford Mods and 2022 ILM AotY winner Real Lies are milquetoast too? Brb - gonna sell those records and delete from my hard drive

I mean... I wouldn't even let Sleaford Mods anywhere near my hard drive in the first place, but I realize I'm in the minority about that. They aren't milquetoast tho, that's true.

John Robb's Louder than War have unveiled the EoY List

Louder The War Top 100 Albums of the Year 2023
https://louderthanwar.com/louder-than-war-albums-of-2023/

the only top 100 that will include all the following: Crime and the City Solution, Hawkwind, The Damned, Mudhoney, Rhoda Dakar, EBTGirl, Gorillaz, Sparks, Therapy, Orbital, Band of Holy Joy, DJ Shadow and Vince Clarke.

plus some right obscure / esoteric / who are they selections / I never knew this band existed.

Louder Than War’s Albums Of 2023 was compiled with votes from John Robb, Wayne Carey, Iain Key, Ged Babey, Nathan Whittle, Gordon Rutherford, Mark Ray, Jazz Hodge, Audrey Golden, Robin Boardman, Nathan Brown, Paul Scott-Bates, Jim Mumby, Ian Corbridge, Paul Clarke, Christopher Lloyd, Adam Brady, Paul Evangelista, Tim Cooper, Phil Newall, Andy Brown, Paul Grace, James Kilkenny, Neil Crud, Nigel Carr, Tiernan Canon, Melanie Smith, Gus Ironside, and Keith Chapman.

Mostly men (of a certain age) voted.

do they have anything new to say?

Probably very little. Louder than War isn't on my wavelength with that list.

I had no idea Gorillaz released an album this year huh

have any of the lists had fire-toolz or katie dey on them? please wake me up when it is so

or hell, is Big Billy Woods making any hay

or hopefully-ILX-champ Tirzah

god these lists are all such fucking trash

billy woods (and armand hammer) made the gorilla vs bear list. tirzah too, i think

all these lists except gvb are all such fucking trash

rolling stone songs list: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/best-songs-of-2023-1234879541

not great or anything, but i do appreciate rolling stone for being the only mainstream list to give latin artists the time of day

even just keeping it to pop...jim legxacy, katie gately, hannah diamond, l'rain, anjimile, algiers, alice longyu gao, salvia, ly trang, marina herlop, rxk nephew, hemlocke springs, diana starshine...and those are just the ones I like...there is greatness everywhere and these publications couldn't give a shit, it's fucking foul

hemlocke springs is in the rolling stone list haha, but yes, these names are criminally underrepresented. i think gvb is the only one so far to rank jim legxcy

Never heard of most of the music on the Louder Than War list, but this blurb is an all-time say-nothing champion:

Almost 35 years in, Therapy? have produced an album that surely qualifies as one of their best in a while. There have been ups and downs throughout yet Cairns, McKeegan, and Cooper have pulled off a fine example of anthemic tunes that will leave you wanting more.

"surely qualifies as one of their best in a while" should never publish.

also, absolutely embarrassing posts by Austin

not great or anything, but i do appreciate rolling stone for being the only mainstream list to give latin artists the time of day

― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Friday, December 1, 2023 2:55 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Always more country than most other lists, too. They try their best to capture the zeitgeist, I guess.

I always forget that Therapy? aren’t a numetal band (#millenial)

Out of morbid curiosity I listened to as much of that Therapy? album as I could take — two and a half songs. It's worse than the new Helmet album, which I had to listen to all the way through to review for The Wire.

hmm... are you guys sure you actually love music?

was surprised to see the Jam City place so high on the Gorilla Vs Bear list, but then remembered that i didn’t listen to anything else for a few weeks this summer— perfect record in certain ways

how is anybody supposed to read the GvB list ... fuck the internet tbh

what's the issue supposed to be

gvb list is more interesting cos it's the work of one person who seems to have a fairly wide (and for better or worse sophisticated) taste and who listens to a lot of obscurities. would still probably rather cut to the chase and see ufo's or vc's personal lists. ah well, not long

one person who should absolutely post here, why don't they post here

Esquire and exclaim! Also have songs lists already.

Here’s the aggregate for songs

https://www.albumoftheyear.org/songs/best/2023/ Hope it works if not add / at the end

imago- probs because of people like me. oops.

(you are very otm tho- these lists have become the antithesis of what they're supposed to be for)

also, absolutely embarrassing posts by Austin

― alpine static, Friday, December 1, 2023 1:14 PM

i'm wondering how many fp i got for that one. not my intention, honestly. just venting. don't mean to upset anyone, but also very militant about how trash some music is. i can't even wrap my head around giving sufjan fucking stevens the time of day in 2023. that's far more embarrassing than any opinion some loser on the internet is posting. i do love music, that's why my patience is so short.

and i will say no more on the matter.

always enjoy an austin vent whether i agree or not - fuck the pile on, you keep doing you imo

i'm probably the board's biggest sufjan fan and i don't really give a shit if you dislike him but if you're going to be a hater at least be a hater about something real instead of this 'people only like him because he's white' bullshit