For me, Seven Swans and Age of Adz are streets ahead of the rest of his stuff.
― yugi ex, Saturday, 2 December 2023 16:47 (ten months ago) link
even I like AOA!
will get around to the new one eventually
― imago, Saturday, 2 December 2023 16:54 (ten months ago) link
the opening track of the new one is very adz-y and there's lots of little adz-y touches throughout the whole album too, but it's nowhere near as full-on except for the opener
― ufo, Saturday, 2 December 2023 17:04 (ten months ago) link
Anyway, Sufjan is Greek
― meaner stinks meat bake it cone (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 2 December 2023 17:26 (ten months ago) link
You can be Greek and white.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 2 December 2023 20:57 (ten months ago) link
Ik I was just being a dillhole
― meaner stinks meat bake it cone (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 2 December 2023 20:58 (ten months ago) link
i have to just assume that illinois being kinda twee made austin incandescent with rage 18 years ago and he still hasn't recovered or heard anything else by sufjan since then
― ufo, Friday, 1 December 2023 18:35 (yesterday) link
Michigan actually but guilty, pretty much. Well, I heard the two songs in Call me by your name but every time I replay the tearful ending scene in my head, I replace the “visions of Gideon/is it a video?” one with ‘Janitor’ by Suburban Lawns.
― Deflatormouse, Saturday, 2 December 2023 22:36 (ten months ago) link
lol not even close for me... 18 years ago i was living, eating, and breathing the field mice so if anything, he wasn't twee enough for my bitchass.
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Saturday, 2 December 2023 22:50 (ten months ago) link
there are different varieties of twee, tho.
― Deflatormouse, Saturday, 2 December 2023 22:54 (ten months ago) link
popbuzz Best Albums of 2023https://www.popbuzz.com/music/features/best-albums-2023/Maura Johnston approved Chappell Roan takes Album of the Year1. Chappell Roan - The Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princessriyl 80s pop Madonna, Cyndi Lauper.
― djmartian, Saturday, 2 December 2023 23:10 (ten months ago) link
xxp but you're right that it isn't tweeness exactly that put me off him, more what i perceived as a kind of piety. it's also quite a drafty record (his voice is very breathy, he's good at notating gusts and flurries) and that can be grating as much as it can be alluring.. idk
― Deflatormouse, Saturday, 2 December 2023 23:24 (ten months ago) link
like the danielson family were pious in a more overtly religious sense than sufjan, whose piety seemed mainly filial... and that's where his "milquetoast whiteness" becomes a problem for me, i think. because hearing a raving lunatic like deliver this kind of stuff comes across very differently to a boy-next-door
― Deflatormouse, Saturday, 2 December 2023 23:42 (ten months ago) link
the only things there that are really consistent across sufjan's career are that his voice is breathy and he's religious, quite often more overtly than on michigan, but also often weirder about it
― ufo, Sunday, 3 December 2023 10:06 (ten months ago) link
Love this Chappell Roan album! My favorite find from the year-end lists so far.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 3 December 2023 18:35 (ten months ago) link
Dan Nigro's been a busy guy this year huh.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 3 December 2023 18:40 (ten months ago) link
Sputnikmusic - Best Albums of 2023https://www.sputnikmusic.com/topalbums.phpsputnikmusic is a user music ratings database similar to RYM, with a strong focus on Metal and Rock.Top 200 Albums are ranked for 2023, currently Panopticon are number 1 with the album, The Rime of Memory.BandcampPanopticon - The Rime of Memoryhttps://thetruepanopticon.bandcamp.com/album/the-rime-of-memoryatmospheric black metal
― djmartian, Sunday, 3 December 2023 21:21 (ten months ago) link
Quietus Albums Of The Year 2023 https://thequietus.com/articles/33662-the-quietus-top-100-albums-of-2023-norman-recordsThe Quietus Albums Of The Year 2023 summary1: Lankum – False Lankum2: PJ Harvey – I Inside The Old Year Dying3: Teeth Of The Sea – Hive4: La Nòvia – La Baracande5: John Francis Flynn – Look Over The Wall, See The Sky6: Musta Huone – Valosaasteen sekaan7: Khanate – To Be Cruel8: Abstract Concrete – Abstract Concrete9: Danny Brown – Quaranta10: Mariam Rezaei – BOWN11: Shit And Shine – 2222 And Airport12: The Inward Circles – Before We Lie Down In Darknesse13: Brìghde Chaimbuel – Carry Them With Us14: Slauson Malone 1 – Excelsior15: Rắn Cạp Đuôi Collective – *116: PoiL Ueda – PoiL Ueda17: Bill Orcutt – The Anxiety Of Symmetry18: La Tène – Ecorcha / Taillée19: Surgeon – Crash Recoil20: Babybaby_explores – Food Near Me, Weather Tomorrow21: Philip Jeck & Chris Watson – Oxmardyke22: L'Rain – I Killed Your Dog23: Shirley Collins – Archangel Hill24: Lost Girls – Selvutsletter25: Annelies Monseré – Mares26: Gazelle Twin – Black Dog27: Moundabout – An Cnor Mór28: Apostille – Prisoners Of Love And Hate29: MC Yallah – Yallah Beibe30: James Ellis Ford – The Hum31: Lunch Money Life – The God Phone32: Nabihah Iqbal – Dreamer33: Lisa O'Neill – All Of This Is Chance34: UKAEA – Birds Catching Fire In The Sky35: Hey Colossus – In Blood36: Alexander Tucker & Keith Collins – Fifth Continent37: Yaeji – With A Hammer38: Aho Ssan – Rhizomes39: Benefits – Nails40: Nuovo Testamento – Love Lines41: Kelela – Raven42: Babau – Flatland Explorations Vol. 243: EP/64-63 – EP/64-6344: ØXN – CYRM45: Sleaford Mods – UK GRIM46: JAAW – Supercluster47: Skull Practitioners – Negative Stars48: Raphael Rogiński – Tálan49: Polobi & The Gwo Ka Masters – Abri Cyclonique50: Enola Gay – Casement51: Matana Roberts – Coin Coin Chapter Five: In The Garden52: Bell Witch – Future's Shadow Part 1: The Clandestine Gate53: Algiers – Shook54: O Yama O – Galo55: Ruth Anderson & Annea Lockwood – Tête-à-tête56: KMRU – Dissolution Grip57: Mendoza Hoff Revels – Echolocation58: Fever Ray – Radical Romantics59: James Holden – Imagine This Is A High Dimensional Space Of All Possibilities60: Billy Woods & Kenny Segal – Maps61: Noname – Sundial62: a.P.A.t.T. – We63: Natalia Beylis – Mermaids64: Cassandra Miller – Traveller Song / Thanksong65: Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs – Land Of Sleeper66: Sourdurent – L'Herbe De Détourne67: Flesh & The Dream – Choose Mortality68: TORPOR – Abscission69: Årabrot – Of Darkness And Light70: Sparks – The Girl Is Crying In Her Latte71: Yfory – Yfory72: Mozart Estate – Pop-Up! Kerching! And The Possibilities Of Modern Shopping73: Synthfreq – Vol. 174: Nihiloxica – Source Of Denial75: House Of All – House Of All76: One More Grain – Modern Music77: Colin Stetson – When We Were That What Wept For The Sea78: Nicky Wire – Intimism79: Jellyskin – In Brine80: Reverend Kristin Michael Hayter – SAVED!81: Kevin Richard Martin – Black82: Yossari Baby – Inferiority Complex83: Zhao Cong – 5535584: Stephen O'Malley & Anthony Pateras – Sept duos pour guitare acoustique & piano préparé85: Spirit Possession – Of The Sign…86: KASAI – J/P/N87: Godflesh – Purge88: Anjimile – The King89: Moussa Tchingou – Tamiditine90: DeVon Russell Gray / Nathan Hanson / Davu Seru – We Sick91: MXLX – Saint92: Maxo – Even God Has A Sense Of Humor93: Dodo Resurrection II – A Treatise On Ceremonial Magic94: The Stargazer's Assistant – Fire Worshipper95: Rezzett – Meant Like This96: John Zorn – Homenaje A Remedios Varo97: ANOHNI And The Johnsons – My Back Was A Bridge For You To Cross98: Oozing Wound – We Cater To Cowards99: Niecy Blues – Exit Simulation100: Call Super – Eulo Cramps
― djmartian, Monday, 4 December 2023 08:29 (ten months ago) link
an unusually normal top 2 for the quietus!
― ufo, Monday, 4 December 2023 08:33 (ten months ago) link
There's some good stuff on that list that won't be on any other list. There's also a whole load of standard Quietus rubbish. But focusing on the positives, it's good to see Anjimile, Kristin Hayter, James Holden, Algiers and above all MXLX (who won't be on any lists save this one and my own) get props
― imago, Monday, 4 December 2023 09:06 (ten months ago) link
The Quietus are absolute fiends for promoting their house favourites come what may. Maybe that's a nice thing. If I was in Teeth Of The Sea, Arabrot or Shit And Shine I'd certainly think so lol
― imago, Monday, 4 December 2023 09:08 (ten months ago) link
Must be some mistake though as I can't see 'Gnod' in there. They must have somehow not released anything this year
― imago, Monday, 4 December 2023 09:09 (ten months ago) link
Also, that House Of All is fucking rancid. Okay enough out of you lad
― imago, Monday, 4 December 2023 09:10 (ten months ago) link
oh there's plenty of stuff i've never heard of as usual, at least a little of which should be worthwhile. just surprised at the top 2 being critical favourites for once
― ufo, Monday, 4 December 2023 09:47 (ten months ago) link
the Lankum album is almost precision-designed to win the Quietus AOTY tbf, and PJ Harvey is a sort of looming everpresence behind a lot of UK music (which I have to admit even as a non-fan)
if you want an insight into the parlous, awful state of UK art-rock and experimental atm though, surfing through this will give you some idea. we are dying out here
― imago, Monday, 4 December 2023 09:55 (ten months ago) link
Good to see Oozing Wound on there. Everybody listen to Oozing Wound.
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Monday, 4 December 2023 09:58 (ten months ago) link
will give 'em a spin! as i say, i'll try a few not-heard-ofs out from that list just in case.
it always occurs to me that i'd probably be a fair candidate for a quietus contributor if i wasn't always so keen to torch all my bridges with them. DORAN. DORAN I WILL WRITE ABOUT CARDIACS WANNABE BANDS FOR YOU AND YOUR SILLY ZINE
― imago, Monday, 4 December 2023 10:07 (ten months ago) link
Oozing Wound album is good. Thymme from Cheer-accident features on a few tracks!
― imago, Monday, 4 December 2023 11:18 (ten months ago) link
the James Holden album was… not very interesting! Best records on there are the Surgeon, Gray/Hanson/Seru, and the Stetson.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 4 December 2023 12:35 (ten months ago) link
The Jellyskin is sounding quite promising 2 tracks in
― imago, Monday, 4 December 2023 13:09 (ten months ago) link
Upgrade that to 'awesome', bloody hell
― imago, Monday, 4 December 2023 13:13 (ten months ago) link
At first John Francis Flynn's closing track, a cover of "Dirty Old Town" sounded hapless and made me laugh. Then Shane died and it pretty much represented what I felt.
Benefits - Nails includes a couple members of The Chapman Family, who's Burn Your Town (2011) I liked. But man, more of that shouty Sleaford Mods stuff is rough going. I guess some people find catharsis having someone on too much cocaine/alcohol ranting at their face, spittle flying. I prefer death metal. Or old Chicago faves Oozing Wound!
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 4 December 2023 14:22 (ten months ago) link
https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/best-songs-2023/
delighted we are now at the point where "super shy" is top ten. definitely the wrong olivia rodrigo single in the top ten. still don't get what everyone hears in the second half of "a&w". finally another list with jim legxacy! how did they go for "needs" and not any of tinashe's absolutely brilliant tracks this year
― ufo, Monday, 4 December 2023 14:50 (ten months ago) link
NME TOP 50 songs
https://www.nme.com/features/music-features/best-songs-of-2023-3551141
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 4 December 2023 15:25 (ten months ago) link
Every eoy best songs lists so far looking very homogenic at the top and the interesting stuff at the low end.
Guardian, pitchfork, nme and rolling stone have almost the exact same songs in the top 20.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 4 December 2023 15:33 (ten months ago) link
"A&W" deserving of the year's top spot, imo
― This field is required (morrisp), Monday, 4 December 2023 15:37 (ten months ago) link
MXLX (who won't be on any lists save this one and my own)
I actually haven't heard the new one yet, but as the one person who has repeatedly voted for Matt's work over the years, this reads verrrrry snobby to me. "Only I, imago, am visionary enough to understand this." Okay, well, just ignore me then!
― emil.y, Monday, 4 December 2023 15:43 (ten months ago) link
Yeah like “A&W” but I’m suspicious of liking it now haha
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 4 December 2023 15:44 (ten months ago) link
Would love to see any lists that don’t look like they were paid off by the same 100 PR groups. Where do all the amateur music critics of the 00s homegrown blogs broadcast their taste these days?
― zacata, Monday, 4 December 2023 15:53 (ten months ago) link
Here.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Monday, 4 December 2023 16:01 (ten months ago) link
― emil.y, Monday, 4 December 2023 15:43 (twenty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Oh I know you've been a fan! Just, this album had a totally botched and stupid release and I just assumed basically nobody had heard it because of this, it has 3 RYM ratings total! You should absolutely grab hold of it!
― imago, Monday, 4 December 2023 16:10 (ten months ago) link
I did ramble on about it quite a lot a month ago to crickets :p
I mean the number of people I've tried to get to listen to his Won't album (about 20) rather exceeds the number who actually have (0), he's a hard sell!
― imago, Monday, 4 December 2023 16:11 (ten months ago) link
There still some 00s blogs with great eoy selections:
Said the Gramophone, gorilla vs bear, raven sings the blues, aquarium drunkard…
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 4 December 2023 16:12 (ten months ago) link
Looking forward to the Boomkat lists
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Monday, 4 December 2023 16:14 (ten months ago) link
Really enjoying the a.P.A.t.T. album from the Quietus list. It's only taken them 20 years but they've made something that doesn't have me rolling my eyes (much). Full of great tunes even!
― imago, Monday, 4 December 2023 16:22 (ten months ago) link
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, December 3, 2023 12:35 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, December 3, 2023 12:40 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
seconded
― Indexed, Monday, 4 December 2023 16:23 (ten months ago) link
this album had a totally botched and stupid release and I just assumed basically nobody had heard it because of this, it has 3 RYM ratings total! You should absolutely grab hold of it!
Aye, okay, that makes a lot more sense. Think I'm being massively oversensitive as well, so fair dos. I will seek it out.
― emil.y, Monday, 4 December 2023 16:23 (ten months ago) link
The big question for me is whether all of ilx will hate me if I nominate five+ songs from this year's Eurovision for the EoY poll. It was a good year!
― emil.y, Monday, 4 December 2023 16:29 (ten months ago) link
all good xp!
always up for eurovision nominations, think i even voted for one once without knowing it was eurovision (go_a)
― imago, Monday, 4 December 2023 16:32 (ten months ago) link
Ted Gioia:
https://www.honest-broker.com/p/the-best-recordings-of-2023-honorable
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 4 December 2023 16:36 (ten months ago) link