love that liberty vid!
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 18:04 (eight months ago) link
(i wouldn't have minded a slightly more inquisitive host, though)
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 18:05 (eight months ago) link
FCC: Liberty has not been quiet about his level of hurt about being let go. But he's clearly still trading on his Joel-related work, which is his right (because he actually played those parts).
It's nuanced.
― CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 21:38 (eight months ago) link
oh i get that. i wanted the host to be more inquisitive about his drum parts! like when they're talking about "angry young man" (around 10:50 in the video), liberty says "in the middle there’s that clopping part. i did it on billy’s chest. we laid him on a chair." the interviewer weirdly neglects to say "wait, wut???"
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 17 January 2024 07:10 (eight months ago) link
also i would've loved to hear about that left/right diagonal drumming concept from them in the video, rather than from you in this thread, though i'm very glad you did bring it up. really interesting! what's the point of doing a 46-minute one-on-one video with a great drummer if you're not going to geek out like that with him?
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 17 January 2024 07:17 (eight months ago) link
Yeah it was a pretty dull video in some ways, the level of analysis was basically “so you did that, huh? awesome!” and I don’t need to see a literally identical pattern played for the entirety of JTWYA, or any part of AMOT whatsoever. Wish they’d gone for songs with more interesting parts. Also, and it’s awkward to ask, but wasn’t his timing off in several places? I was wondering if he may have begun to waver and that led to his ouster.
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 07:40 (eight months ago) link
i couldn’t tell! but i was watching it at a very low volume so no one in my household could roast me for listening to billy joel
i had no idea “just the way you are” was one part over and over again until i saw it in the video, hilarious, but soo tasteful and perfect for the song
drumeo guy is consistently one of the most awkward interviewers i’ve ever seen. earnest drum nerds from canada don’t always ask the most interesting questions in the moment on camera i guess
― ivy., Wednesday, 17 January 2024 11:26 (eight months ago) link
Mattt, to be fair, Prelude is probably the most challenging/weird/spiky drum part in the Joelian pop catalog.
― Wine not? (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 12:44 (eight months ago) link
Quite true. I guess I would have liked to see some Stranger or even “Rosalinda’s Eyes”.
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 17 January 2024 14:27 (eight months ago) link
STOP THE PRESSES
DRUDGE SIREN
It's time to TURN THE LIGHTS BACK ON. Brand new single coming February 1st. Pre-order here: https://t.co/Wtiyj8qJe3! pic.twitter.com/cN6BUh7gt5— Billy Joel (@billyjoel) January 22, 2024
― underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Monday, 22 January 2024 19:09 (eight months ago) link
!!!
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Monday, 22 January 2024 20:17 (eight months ago) link
And: good use of a personal fave NYC landmark! That's the Loew's 175th Street / United Palace of Cultural Arts.
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Monday, 22 January 2024 20:18 (eight months ago) link
No, this sounds like it's Billy Joel song. I hear no traces of dance-punk on this at all from that snippet.
― MarkoP, Monday, 22 January 2024 20:34 (eight months ago) link
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 22 January 2024 21:55 (eight months ago) link
I hear no traces of dance-punk on this at all from that snippet
it's still rock and roll to me
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 22 January 2024 21:56 (eight months ago) link
Should I get a Target Stanley Cup And some wide-flared J. Crew pants?
― underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 01:03 (eight months ago) link
If this new single begins with him taking a really deep breath before launching into EARTHQUAKE SERIES, NO MORE WALL, GEORGE BUSH, PANAMA...
― pplains, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 16:14 (eight months ago) link
The new single should begin with...
HUWUNNTWOOOOHWUN TWOO THREEE FAWW
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:08 (eight months ago) link
and then break into a very slow ballad, Monty Python style
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 January 2024 17:28 (eight months ago) link
So, on a BJ interview with Howard Stern this week, he says that “Big Shot” is basically written from Mick Jagger’s point of view. Suddenly all the vocal exaggerations make sense — he’s a Brill Building guy writing something Jagger could sing, and acts out the part doing it.
― underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Friday, 26 January 2024 14:48 (eight months ago) link
Another "Mick" song is "You May Be Right"
― pplains, Friday, 26 January 2024 15:00 (eight months ago) link
I saw her today at the reception Dom Perignon in her hand and a spoon up her nose
― Wine not? (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 26 January 2024 15:31 (eight months ago) link
^ shit, wow, that's the first time I have noticed the intersection between those lyrics. I might need to lie down for a bit and process this information
― Wine not? (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 26 January 2024 15:34 (eight months ago) link
is it time to turn the lights back on in this thread?
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 1 February 2024 15:05 (seven months ago) link
did i wait too long?
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 1 February 2024 20:50 (seven months ago) link
It kinda works for me except that the vocal doesn't sound like Billy at all somehow. If you told me it was an AI synthesis I would probably believe it and think it was mildly impressive.I like that it's somewhat different to his previous stuff, and frankly it must have been pretty hard to break that long a silence (oddities notwithstanding).
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 1 February 2024 22:10 (seven months ago) link
yeah i wonder about that vocal too. it sounds like billy to me, but not 2024 billy
i don't hate it, but i think the arrangement sounds like AI too (i wouldn't have minded just piano, and i definitely wouldn't have minded billy's live band), and it really really could have used an actual chorus.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 1 February 2024 22:27 (seven months ago) link
I like it, but man, it really reminds me of another song that I can't put my finger on.
― pplains, Friday, 2 February 2024 03:15 (seven months ago) link
Could have used an actual melody. I figure his voice must be Auto-Tuned to hell(?)
― jake morgendorffer core (morrisp), Friday, 2 February 2024 03:46 (seven months ago) link
End of the Road by Boyz II Men? Because that's what is somehow getting mixed up in my head.
― MarkoP, Friday, 2 February 2024 15:46 (seven months ago) link
I think his voice sounds like 2024 Billy, he sounds older here and of course the studio sands away the rough edges from live performances. did detect auto-tune as well which tends to 'youngify' voices.
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 February 2024 18:51 (seven months ago) link
The orchestra feels unnecessary, but then I realize we're talking about one of the last of the stadium acts. The piano dynamics would really stand out without all the backing.
Feels pre-Glass Houses in a good way. Maybe his first song without a "rock" band arrangement since then (though I'm not going back to the last few albums to check)?
― underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Friday, 2 February 2024 18:59 (seven months ago) link
since when did he use co-writers? I don't care, but it's striking.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 February 2024 19:03 (seven months ago) link
I missed that there were co-writers (hadn't read about it until just now). Interesting that it involves the same guy who wrote Pussycat Dolls' legit-good "I Hate This Part." Guessing we'll hear at some point how this song was built.
― underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Friday, 2 February 2024 19:13 (seven months ago) link
my guess is the older you get, more time you spend on the toilet and sleeping, less time to write
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 February 2024 19:19 (seven months ago) link
The changes and orchestration remind me of Chicago's "Hard to Say I'm Sorry"...
― underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Friday, 2 February 2024 20:13 (seven months ago) link
Which of the four of them wrote the line, "I see you now / As we're laying in the darkness"? Is the narrator wearing night-vision goggles(?)
― jake morgendorffer core (morrisp), Friday, 2 February 2024 20:54 (seven months ago) link
Used the flashlight on his phone
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 2 February 2024 21:00 (seven months ago) link
It's his muse he can see in the darkness.
― underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Friday, 2 February 2024 21:05 (seven months ago) link
since when did he use co-writers?
i think this is more a case of the co-writers using him. ifi've got the story straight, they approached him, unsolicited, with an unfinished song and asked him to help top it off.
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 2 February 2024 22:20 (seven months ago) link
Hope they put bread in his jar
― jake morgendorffer core (morrisp), Friday, 2 February 2024 22:54 (seven months ago) link
I think I thought it was "Only Time Will Tell" by Asia, but that's it's squirmier than that.
― pplains, Saturday, 3 February 2024 04:14 (seven months ago) link
First impression: better than "Now and Then," but not exactly grabbing me. Hate what I'm hearing as auto-tuning, and the cheesy "arena drums plus strings" production. The actual song seems fine if not special - I could see it being a bit of a grower if it closed out an album, at the tail end of a mixed bag of pastiches on Side B.
― not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 3 February 2024 12:24 (seven months ago) link
yeah it’s a bit “Where’s the Orchestra” isn’t it
― assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 3 February 2024 13:20 (seven months ago) link
This damn song has been stuck in my head since the Grammys, and I’m not happy about it…
― atmospheric river phoenix (morrisp), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 03:23 (seven months ago) link
So apparently "Vienna" is having a moment? My 16-year-old daughter is working up a cover of it. It's not my favorite key but I will get there somehow.
― Virginia Wolfman (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 February 2024 12:56 (seven months ago) link
i finally heard the new song & i like it well enough. enough to be interested in hearing more, anyway. is Freddy Wexler any relation to Jerry Wexler? Freddy’s wikipedia entry starts at 2008 & eschews any real biographical info
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 February 2024 15:37 (seven months ago) link
BJ likes the disposable vapes apparently
― calstars, Friday, 9 February 2024 15:49 (seven months ago) link
So apparently "Vienna" is having a moment?
it's his tiktok hit!
― fact checking cuz, Sunday, 11 February 2024 22:32 (seven months ago) link
It’s a good song.
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 February 2024 12:02 (seven months ago) link