Fugazi : Classic or Dud ?

I saw them play here once, and my impression was that it sounded like Fugazi's rhythm section with a guitarist I didn't like.

Never saw them live but yeah that was my impression of them too.

Haven't listened to the Mezzthetics albums yet, but Pirog doesn't progfuse that xxxpost James Brandon Lewis track, "Fear Not." It starts with his fluid accompaniment to Lewis's statement of the theme on tenor sax, then drone ov bass & drums drone quickly kicks in, and he steps back into it, sometimes providing punctuation and/or tiny ornaments, best detectable on headphones, as Lewis restates the theme, slightly twisting it, 'til Pirog chops a few chords and twangbar comments---then back into the hunkered-down caveman groove, while brave target Lewis sails overhead: so it's like Neil Young and Crazy Horse backing jazzman, and not a progfuse jazzman.
Thread-relevant only if you've been wondering what Canty and Lally have been up to lately.

Although any good track is relevant to any thread on ILM.

Saw JBL & The Messthetics at Le Poisson Rouge the other night. Closest I'll ever get to seeing Fugazi. A great rhythm section, super tight with JBL and Pirog. I've not always been into Pirog's playing, but he was fantastic live - he reins it in little on the album, but was blazing here.

That’s good. Although the short IG video clip of Jbl & messthetics there in an IG story I saw , his “blazing “ was too busy and math rock meets jazzy prog rock for me.

Honestly, when I saw the show is was kind of like when I saw a Trey Anastasio solo band show. I liked the band, more than I expected (because I don't like Phish), but every time I started kinda enjoying myself he would come back in and my engagement would just fade. Messthetics wasn't quite like that, but Canty/Lally are such a great team, and while he wasn't bad, he still detracted/distracted from them. Or maybe I was just primed to hear Guy and Ian's playing. Probably, lol.

Well we will see if Pirog can restrain his excesses on that upcoming JBL & Messthetics album on Impulse.

Ian isn’t in any active group now, and I don’t think Guy is either.

When I saw the MC50 thing Wayne Kramer's MC5 tribute/reunion thing it had Canty on drums & Billy Gould of FNM on bass and while I didn't always love the show I did come away thinking I would watch any band with Canty playing drums.

Is Coriky no longer a thing? Guy seems more into producing lately.

fwiw Ian is 62 years old and Guy isn't that far behind. So I wouldn't really expect either to still be in active bands if they have absolutely anything else going on in their lives that does not require them to go on tour.

The impression I get from Mackaye's interviews and podcast appearances is that he's kept busy these days curating and preserving not only Dischord's legacy and archive but some of the wider punk/hardcore culture, collecting fanzines/letters/photos and ephemera.

nice, good for him

the short IG video clip of Jbl & messthetics there in an IG story I saw , his “blazing “ was too busy and math rock meets jazzy prog rock for me.

Although, in the DC axis context, if he wanted to take these Fugazi guys in a Don Callero and/or early Battles direction, that would be okay too, I would hope (I like all three of those bands, however you tag them).

listen with juice, not prejudice.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2Lx9F_t_rk/?igsh=dzc1d3R6a3R2dWEx

Eww

guy played instruments on the new jim white solo album so he's still playing

pirog with short hair still flummoxes me

The impression I get from Mackaye's interviews and podcast appearances is that he's kept busy these days curating and preserving not only Dischord's legacy and archive but some of the wider punk/hardcore culture, collecting fanzines/letters/photos and ephemera.

Yes to this. I found some old Minor Threat photos my brother took (plus some negatives of other bands he took pics of back then - DC band Doulbe O, Cramps , others) at our late parents home cleaning up , and my brother and I visited the Dischord house and warehouse and Ian as he is going to digitize them and such. He says he still plays guitar everyday but has put Coriky on hold. He has so much stuff archived -- both physical items, diaries from tours, tapes in multiple formats of practices and gigs.

that insta clip sounded like something that SST would've put out in 1989 (i didn't hate it)

lololol I can't deny that

it's not really for me

I feel like Ian would have good tips for the digital music collection thread.
But maybe it would be vice versa?

"What if Alan Holdsworth joined Saccharine Trust?"

Folk-artist and performer Lonnie Holley will be backed by Lee Bains, Joe Lally, and Brendan Canty at the Kennedy Center Millennium Stage tonight from 6 to 7 pm Eastern US time. The show is free but ticketed. It will also be streamed on the Millennium Stage Youtube & Facebook page

https://www.kennedy-center.org/whats-on/millennium-stage/2024/february/lonnie-holley/

Alabaman guitarist and backing vocalist Lee Bains is kinda prominent there behind Holley, but Lally and Canty are of course there and sound strong.

Canty has been filling in Hammered Hulls on bass , and has a gig coming up with Johnny Temple ( Girls against Boys, new wet kojak)

what a fucking band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59Gy7TAkQW8

Yep. Old guy me was at that Washington Monument show . Well, I was around Ian’s age then .

It's been eight years since they were mentioned and the link's dead so a re-up for the immense Torso Butter by Happy Go Licky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVaoEbFBTBc

Thanks. You can hear what Guy and Brendan later brought to Fugazi. I was a big fan of Eddie Janney in this group and Rites of Spring.