Other than Sade, Sinéad and Tribe, that's a pretty shit list.
Ozzy really doesn't deserve to get in as a solo artist.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 12 February 2024 19:59 (seven months ago) link
Arcade Fire hung around long enough to win Grammies right? So that has to help them.
Yes, I think Pixies get in under the Velvet Underground rule
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 12 February 2024 20:04 (seven months ago) link
You couldn't be wronger about this. His first four studio solo albums are all incredible, and plenty of people rate the fifth and sixth as well, and his impact on the 80s metal scene was massive. Ozzy is a major, major figure, commercially and artistically.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Monday, 12 February 2024 20:18 (seven months ago) link
yeah Ozzy definitely gets in on the basis of his early solo career easily
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 February 2024 20:19 (seven months ago) link
His 80s albums really haven't held up, not for me. I definitely wouldn't put them in the "incredible" column, although god knows I did when I was 15 and 16 years old.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 12 February 2024 20:50 (seven months ago) link
Motorhead opened for him on the Blizzard tour, they represented more of the future of metal than Ozzy did, imho.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 12 February 2024 20:51 (seven months ago) link
xpost really? idk they seem pretty timeless for me. even if you get tired of Ozzy's reedy voice, I feel like the first two are basically perfect albums
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Monday, 12 February 2024 20:53 (seven months ago) link
TBF, it's been years since I've listened to them.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 12 February 2024 20:55 (seven months ago) link
i think the national is gonna be the token indie band from the 00s. arcade fire would've been, but for win butler's me too situation.
i was surprised that the white stripes didn't make it last year and are now not nominated. thought jack white's whole deal would appeal to the old guard
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Monday, February 12, 2024 1:38 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
national is a good call and agreed on white stripes, the old members will always loves the blooze
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 February 2024 21:13 (seven months ago) link
national is a good call and agreed on white stripes, the old members will always loves the blooze snooze
fxd
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 February 2024 21:15 (seven months ago) link
There’s no doubt about Ozzy - look at how people still talk of Rhoads, Aldridge, Lee, Wylde etc as sidemen; primarily or mostly from working with Ozzy
― Road House: Songs and Stories (Master of Treacle), Monday, 12 February 2024 21:20 (seven months ago) link
never really got the appeal of Zack Wylde but that speaks to what a prestigious position it was in metal guitar.Jake E. Lee is amazing, so underrated
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 February 2024 21:29 (seven months ago) link
Jake E Lee's Badlands should be in the Hall of Fame
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 12 February 2024 21:39 (seven months ago) link
don't discount the possibility of the hall waiting till jack white is eligible to go in alone and inducting him that way. fucking over meg white would be very much in character.
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 12 February 2024 23:08 (seven months ago) link
some of the '80s underground and hardcore bands will get in on the "influences" side, but probably not 'til they're all dead. I don't think we'll ever have to, as Ron House once sang, blow it up before Albini gives a speech.
― charlie brown from outta town (GM), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 02:30 (seven months ago) link
also The National guy becoming Taylor's main musical partner will definitely help them get in before any of the other '00s/'10s indie bands.
― charlie brown from outta town (GM), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 02:31 (seven months ago) link
funny how in the '90s I thought the future Hall of Famers were like PJ Harvey and Bjork, but it was actually Green Day and Foo Fighters
― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 02:41 (seven months ago) link
RNR HOF 2028 - the Raconteurs are the sole inductee
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 03:07 (seven months ago) link
Sheryl Crow over PJ Harvey and Björk was like watching Ron Howard win an Oscar over David Lynch and Robert Altman.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 03:33 (seven months ago) link
I kind of figured Green Day would get inducted early on for commercial reasons - Dookie sold ten million copies out of the gate, outpacing Nirvana and Pearl Jam.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 03:37 (seven months ago) link
xp for reference:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/obsessed/unforgettable-oscars-moment-lynch-and-altman-lose-to-ron-howard
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 03:39 (seven months ago) link
Green Day is on because of American Idiot not Dookie, that is what made them a respectable classic rock band
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 03:48 (seven months ago) link
the dreaded "mature statement"
― omar little, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 04:00 (seven months ago) link
I thought they already made their mature statement with "Good Riddance (Time of Your Life)"? Seinfeld even used it in their finale special for a sappy montage of all things.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 04:07 (seven months ago) link
That was their prom song. American Idiot was Political.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 04:13 (seven months ago) link
I looked it up and Dookie was 10x platinum and Idiot was 6x which I think is actually more impressive considering when those albums came out
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 04:22 (seven months ago) link
American Idiot feels like the last time any Rock Band had legitimate & undeniably massive album in the classic mold.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 04:32 (seven months ago) link
Although I do see that All The Right Reasons by Nickleback (released in '05) went Diamond.
So, uh, yeah.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 04:55 (seven months ago) link
Nickleback is also now eligible for the RRHOF.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 04:59 (seven months ago) link
Creed will probably get in before Nickleback - 6 million-selling debut, 11-million follow-up, and a 6 million finale before breaking up.
Also, I didn't realize Sykes (the HOF CEO) was president of Mariah Carey and Carly Simon's management agency - I'm guessing he personally helped push to get them nominated.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 05:25 (seven months ago) link
Motorhead opened for him on the Blizzard tour, they represented more of the future of metal than Ozzy did, imho.― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux)
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux)
Anyway: Coldplay, Linkin Park, Arcade Fire and Paramore will probably be the bands to represent Rock in the 2000s? From the 90s I think Soundgarden and Alice In Chains will get in as well, to complete the grunge big 4. Korn, Deftones and System Of A Down, probably not but then again RATM got in, so who knows. As the Milennials gradually get in voting positions, they'll induct their childhood heroes, that's how it goes.
― Siegbran, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 10:12 (seven months ago) link
Also, I didn't realize Sykes (the HOF CEO) was president of Mariah Carey and Carly Simon's management agency - I'm guessing he personally helped push to get them nominated.Mariah is the world's second best selling artist of the 2000s (after Eminem), I don't think she needed much of a push? Carly Simon, yes probably.
― Siegbran, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 10:16 (seven months ago) link
Korn, Deftones and System Of A Down, probably not but then again RATM got in, so who knowsProbably helped that Tom Morello has been on the R&RHOF nominating committee for a decade, not to mention playing with Springsteen and Chuck D, presenting at the Oscars, doing his usual political advocacy, etc. In other words, he played the role of Important Rock Guy long after RATM had hits.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 13:48 (seven months ago) link
Anyway: Coldplay, Linkin Park, Arcade Fire and Paramore will probably be the bands to represent Rock in the 2000s?
Probably could sub The Killers in for Arcade Fire. They sold really well in the 2000s (Hot Fuss did 6 million & Sam's Town did 4 million), still have a pretty big audience, and "Mr. Brightside" is a standard by this point.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 14:23 (seven months ago) link
Killers #'s: Worldwide, but mostly from the US BTW.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 14:29 (seven months ago) link
This thread makes me feel like an alien.
― Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 15:56 (seven months ago) link
oh shit Satch has joined the thread!
― never trust a big book and a simile (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 16:01 (seven months ago) link
OK I'm still on this Foreigner thing. "Cold as Ice" really sounds like it could be a song from a musical, I'm into it
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 19:39 (seven months ago) link
one of the greats from the chipmunk sample era
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC2CHVw6twM
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 19:57 (seven months ago) link
Motörhead never really sounded like the future of anything to me - just throwback rock 'n roll turned up to 11. Never very metal either, they have always had much more in common with AC/DC and The Ramones than with Slayer or Iron Maiden.
Interesting. I see them as having a huge influence on thrash and speed metal.
I saw them on that first tour, I didn't know what to make of them. It was a small venue and they sounded like sludge.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 20:00 (seven months ago) link
m.o.p. should get in before foreigner
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 20:50 (seven months ago) link
Ante up mothafucka
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 20:51 (seven months ago) link
decided i'm gonna vote for eric b. and rakim. you can really divide rap into two eras: before paid in full and after. he changed the art of rhyming forever, and he probably still hasn't been surpassed as a pure verse writer.
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 20:52 (seven months ago) link
No Motörhead no discharge/dbeat punk
― brimstead, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 20:55 (seven months ago) link
Rudimentary Peni for the hall
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 20:58 (seven months ago) link
A man of many words… @paulmccartney. All of your votes matter! Click here: https://t.co/MwTwEsSvXB pic.twitter.com/oT26Ugu5iu— Foreigner (@ForeignerMusic) February 27, 2024
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 22:15 (seven months ago) link
that kinda rules
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 23:31 (seven months ago) link
To be fair, I wouldn't have put Paul in as a solo artist either.
(Also to be fair, that vote happened in 1998, and not only did his solo work vastly improve afterwards, the bar for induction was continuously lowered to a ridiculous degree.)
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 01:05 (seven months ago) link
This is the real list ? I was hoping to see Joy Division/New Order, Iron Maiden, and Devo again.
Oasis getting nominated before Smashing Pumpkins is wild. Does the Hall have a beef with the Pumpkins or something ? They seem to tick every box they usually like. All their contemporaries are already in. Green Day, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, NIN, Radiohead, even RATM, but they've never even been nominated. Seems weird to me.
― LeRooLeRoo, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:47 (seven months ago) link
Nobody wants to sit through Corgan's acceptance speech.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 19:08 (seven months ago) link