Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame Nominees 2024

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OK I'm still on this Foreigner thing. "Cold as Ice" really sounds like it could be a song from a musical, I'm into it

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 19:39 (four months ago) link

one of the greats from the chipmunk sample era

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC2CHVw6twM

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 19:57 (four months ago) link

Motörhead never really sounded like the future of anything to me - just throwback rock 'n roll turned up to 11. Never very metal either, they have always had much more in common with AC/DC and The Ramones than with Slayer or Iron Maiden.

Interesting. I see them as having a huge influence on thrash and speed metal.

I saw them on that first tour, I didn't know what to make of them. It was a small venue and they sounded like sludge.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 20:00 (four months ago) link

m.o.p. should get in before foreigner

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 20:50 (four months ago) link

Ante up mothafucka

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 20:51 (four months ago) link

decided i'm gonna vote for eric b. and rakim. you can really divide rap into two eras: before paid in full and after. he changed the art of rhyming forever, and he probably still hasn't been surpassed as a pure verse writer.

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 20:52 (four months ago) link

No Motörhead no discharge/dbeat punk

brimstead, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 20:55 (four months ago) link

Rudimentary Peni for the hall

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 20:58 (four months ago) link

two weeks pass...

A man of many words… @paulmccartney. All of your votes matter! Click here: https://t.co/MwTwEsSvXB pic.twitter.com/oT26Ugu5iu

— Foreigner (@ForeignerMusic) February 27, 2024

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 22:15 (four months ago) link

that kinda rules

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 23:31 (four months ago) link

To be fair, I wouldn't have put Paul in as a solo artist either.

(Also to be fair, that vote happened in 1998, and not only did his solo work vastly improve afterwards, the bar for induction was continuously lowered to a ridiculous degree.)

birdistheword, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 01:05 (four months ago) link

This is the real list ? I was hoping to see Joy Division/New Order, Iron Maiden, and Devo again.

Oasis getting nominated before Smashing Pumpkins is wild. Does the Hall have a beef with the Pumpkins or something ? They seem to tick every box they usually like.
All their contemporaries are already in. Green Day, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, NIN, Radiohead, even RATM, but they've never even been nominated. Seems weird to me.

LeRooLeRoo, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:47 (four months ago) link

Nobody wants to sit through Corgan's acceptance speech.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 19:08 (four months ago) link

Sent my ballot in on Monday. Voted for Eric B. & Rakim, Jane's Addiction, Kool & the Gang, Lenny Kravitz, Sinéad O'Connor, Ozzy Osbourne, and Sade.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 19:54 (four months ago) link

This is the real list ? I was hoping to see Joy Division/New Order, Iron Maiden, and Devo again.

Same here. Had they included all three, they'd be among the seven I'd vote for.

As for "this group/person before this one," that's been a recurring problem with the HOF for decades. King Crimson should've been in decades ago as the first prog group - zero nominations. When Green Day and I think Pearl Jam were inducted, they both made the same comment - why did we get in before [insert the name of any great indie band from the '80s]? The Spinners finally got in when they should've been in decades ago as the first Philly soul group induction. I love the O'Jays too, but the Spinners should've been in first. And on and on for nearly every genre.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 19:55 (four months ago) link

Forgot that Kool & The Gang's drummer passed away last year. I wonder if that helped get them a nomination? That's another unfortunate problem with the HOF, and I'd say the one that matters most - too many groups get inducted after key members die. The institution has rightfully been criticized for its value, but most inductees honestly take it as a very meaningful honor, and it's kind of shitty when Sterling Morrison, Ron Asheton, Whitney Houston, George Michael, etc. (all of whom reportedly truly cared about induction) never see it happen. tbh I wouldn't vote for Houston, but if she's in, she should've been able to at least enjoy that.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 19:59 (four months ago) link

I hate to say it, but there’s no way Sinéad would be nominated if she were still alive today. I don’t think she cared or expected it either.

LeRooLeRoo, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 20:56 (four months ago) link

You're probably right about Sinéad - I think she should've been in a long time ago but if she was still here, I doubt she'd take it as a honor and would probably articulate everything wrong with the institution while declining the invitation to show up.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 21:19 (four months ago) link

She'd ruo up a photo of Jann Wenner at the ceremony, obviously.

clemenza, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 21:27 (four months ago) link

Uh..."ruo" = "rip"

clemenza, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 21:28 (four months ago) link

If you look at the standard keyboard, such seemingly surreal mistakes are explicable.

clemenza, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 21:29 (four months ago) link

Sent my ballot in on Monday. Voted for Eric B. & Rakim, Jane's Addiction, Kool & the Gang, Lenny Kravitz, Sinéad O'Connor, Ozzy Osbourne, and Sade.

― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson)

kinda surprised by your Lenny vote!

omar little, Thursday, 29 February 2024 18:35 (four months ago) link

No one believes in the mythology of rock 'n' roll more than Lenny Kravitz. And honestly, every one of his albums has two or three songs that are really fucking good. (They're rarely the singles, though.) A properly curated Lenny Kravitz compilation would kinda rule.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 29 February 2024 18:49 (four months ago) link

I thought that said Slade and I thought, "At last!"

Only if it's pronounced "slah-DAY"

King Crimson should've been in decades ago as the first prog group - zero nominations.

Foreigner may be as close as they get, unless Bad Company get in someday (I assume ELP has as slim odds of induction as Giles, Giles and Fripp). I guess Bruford is in as a member of Yes, though surely for his work before he joined Crimson, not Union.

My latest modest proposal is that, since the Hall itself is a limited physical space, they kick out a former member for each new, improved inductee: Elvis for Cher, Hendrix for Lenny Kravitz, Beatles for Oasis and so forth. This will hopefully prevent defunct and dead acts from resting on their laurels.

I realized years ago that Oasis are my favourite musical act that I generally assume I hate. This goes beyond personal distaste to a general lack of musical respect, but nonetheless a lot of their songs, not necessarily the hits, have a mild but definite appeal to me on some pre-intellectual level. But I can't ignore that layer of antipathy, so I'm voting for A Tribe Called Quest, partly thanks to the recent insights reading Hanif Abdurraqib's Go Ahead in the Rain.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 1 March 2024 17:10 (four months ago) link

I probably feel the same way about a lot of recording artists as I do about Oasis - I generally don't like them, but there'll be an album or some window of recording activity that I actually enjoy, and if nothing else in their career happened, I'd probably consider myself a fan of their work. Had Oasis imploded in early or mid 1996, they would've left two fine albums and quite a bit of fine B-side/non-LP material IMHO. I'd still be reluctant to call them great - they'd still sound too derivative - but it would be a consistently strong (if small) body of work.

birdistheword, Sunday, 3 March 2024 00:14 (four months ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 17 March 2024 00:01 (three months ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 18 March 2024 00:01 (three months ago) link

Dave Matthews Band 2

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 March 2024 03:35 (three months ago) link

I wished I voted for MJB - last place with no votes is just wrong.

If the top six get in, it would be the best group of inductees in a very long time.

birdistheword, Monday, 18 March 2024 04:21 (three months ago) link

been checking out early Kool & the Gang lately, particularly Live at PJs and my god they were an amazing jazzy funk band at that point

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 March 2024 13:22 (three months ago) link

They were great until that shitehawk JT joined.

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Monday, 18 March 2024 13:59 (three months ago) link

I used to hear "Celebration" at way too many 'grown up' parties when I was a kid (i.e. the ones held for the parents). When I eventually discovered "Jungle Boogie" through Pulp Fiction, I couldn't believe they were the same guys.

birdistheword, Monday, 18 March 2024 17:08 (three months ago) link

(Mostly the same guys I should say)

birdistheword, Monday, 18 March 2024 17:12 (three months ago) link

The current fan vote totals are extra unsurprising:

 Dave Matthews Band 391,749
Foreigner 349,366
Peter Frampton 346,007
Ozzy Osbourne 344,789
Cher 240,383
Lenny Kravitz 215,639
Kool & the Gang 192,692
Mariah Carey 191,224
Oasis 126,190
Sinéad O'Connor 119,123
Sade 115,837
Jane's Addiction 102,218
Mary J. Blige 83,881
A Tribe Called Quest 66,410
Eric B. & Rakim 41,010

Rich E. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 23:23 (three months ago) link

Well, I take that back. I'm a little surprised Oasis are beloved K&TG and Mariah

Rich E. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 23:23 (three months ago) link

beloved below

Rich E. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 23:23 (three months ago) link

barf @ those results

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 23:30 (three months ago) link

under the table and barfing

he/him hoo-hah (map), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 00:26 (three months ago) link

Pretty awful, for sure. If the Shangri-Las or New York Dolls were on there, guessing they'd get 17 votes between them.

clemenza, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 00:28 (three months ago) link

The public likes A Tribe Called Quest more than ILX does: 66,410 votes to 19!

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 02:24 (three months ago) link

I must've woken up on Bizarro Earth - those results are clearly backwards.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 05:43 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

NYMag's Vulture interviewed two anonymous voters again:

https://www.vulture.com/article/rock-hall-of-fame-voters-anonymous-2024-ballots.html

I think this is the third time they've done this, possibly with different voters each time out (I can't be sure, but the tone of last year's interviewees was pretty different from the year before). IIRC, only a few of their enthusiastic choices usually get voted in, and this year you see that reflected in their responses. (Both are big supporters of Eric B. & Rakim and especially A Tribe Called Quest, my top two picks as well, but they're also skeptical that enough voters will cast a vote for them.) Two to six voters isn't a big sampling size, but the ones NYMag has talked to sound like rock critics rather than iHeart employees (who do vote and have given interviews elsewhere) - it feels like another sign that the corporate presence in the voting pool has grown substantially given how poorly NYMag's interviewees have been doing with their picks.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 18:53 (two months ago) link

possibly with different voters each time out

Can confirm. (I was one of the voters interviewed the first two times they did it.)

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 19:25 (two months ago) link

2024 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Inductees to Be Revealed Live on ‘American Idol’

The 2024 inductees into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame will be announced live coast-to-coast during a Rock Hall-themed episode of American Idol on Sunday (April 21).

The inductees will be announced by American Idol host Ryan Seacrest along with judge (and 2022 Rock Hall inductee) Lionel Richie. The episode will air 8-10:01 p.m. ET and 5-7:01 p.m. PT on ABC, with a repeat scheduled for 8-10:01 p.m. PT on the West Coast.

American Idol: Still on the air, apparently! Who knew?

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 02:40 (two months ago) link

Blech, that says a lot. I guess Mariah Carey is a lock since she helped established their template of oversinging and focusing more on your own voice rather than how to best serve the material you’re trying to interpret.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 04:59 (two months ago) link

Also, best selling female artist of all time - I mean that's what a Hall of Fame is for.

Siegbran, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 12:35 (two months ago) link

these fucking clueless mariah takes which haven't changed for decades

Left, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 12:47 (two months ago) link

I guess she's been interpretating her own material wrong all this time

Left, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 12:48 (two months ago) link

neither of the voters int he vulture piece seemed to realize that she wrote all her own hits

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:00 (two months ago) link

How dare anyone not conform to poptimism orthodoxy! To the Guillotine! Rockists to the gulags!
xp

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:02 (two months ago) link


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