My Middle Name Is Earl - The Official ILM Track-By-Track TOM PETTY Listening Thread

No Second Thoughts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHOtRItCHXo

#Dreamsfadehopedieshard

springsteen with tablas? interesting experiment.

strikes me as a little "we need one more...anyone got anything...?"

i like how in that interview i posted above tom credits denny cordell for teaching them how to work in a studio by letting them loose and having them jam and just get familiar with the process and also playing old records for them. and he also says that if they had signed to a label like Capitol they probably would have been thrown into a studio, made one semi-decent album that tanked, gotten dropped by the label, and ended up back in Florida! Ha! sometimes those first steps can be crucial.

And Cordell was robbing them blind. When Petty confronted him, Cordell said something, "Darling, that's the way the business works." Petty forgave him years later.

which is why its amazing that he still gives him so much credit! most people would just say that they were born in the studio and knew everything on their own.

i feel like getting robbed was the price of getting an album out into stores. what you did after that was up to you.

This one's pleasant. Kinda reminds me of "Bron-Yr-Aur" by Zeppelin. Unless you're the Ramones you probably need a few songs like this, just to give everybody in the band a break during the set. The "yeah, yeah ooh yeah yeah" thing is nice but I'd love one more extra-hooky hook tbh. Maybe the title line was gonna be that, and then the quaaludes kicked in right as Petty got to it..

i hear the seeds of "wildfowers"/"she's the one" era petty here. i like it.

Yeah I've always liked No Second Thoughts. I agree it's a slight thing, but good vibes and the "yeah yeah ooo yeah yeah" is nice.

Petty Dog Pondering. Sounds like spring to me!

Also, not the actor but

Phil Seymour – backing vocals on "Magnolia"

"No Second Thought": Yeah, this totally forecasts the off the cuff feel and POV of the post-Lynne stuff (even down to the title). Not much else going on, but who else sounded like this in '78?

label-mate j.j. cale?

i really love j.j. cale. from beginning to end pretty much. he never wavered from his sound. pretty impressive.

Yeah, Cale is a good one.

i love this one. i put it on that Not Dylan thread. its Leon Russell and J.J. Cale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpgfJf5ZT_I

who else sounded like this in '78?

wings,maybe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSJ4xSmonr8

Sounds like a rip of the stones “favorite girl” to me

Factory

boy, Paul sure could play bass.

Restless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5QKYC7yp3o

i like it. all tight and contained, lots of potential energy and sharp corners. i like how it dances around the 12-bar blues changes, turning the 4-chord into a chorus. harmonies are great.

"Restless": Another one forecasting the sound & feel of where they'd go on ...Torpedoes. A thin idea they the absolute most of, terrific liquid groove with lots of color added by the players.

Continuing the Physical Graffiti references: feels distantly like a relatively laid-back, Southern take on The Wanton Song (with the organ from Night Flight). Worthy album track.

I feel like The Eagles stole this slinky groove concept for "Those Shoes"

without the groove

I think that's just what happens when those respective acts 'Get Funky'...

cmon those shoes is a great break, beasties used to to good effect
i know it's not cool to like eagles and cool to like tom petty but that's just wrong

oh I like 'em both, I just think the Eagles heard this and that it was an influence

This has nothing to do with thinking the Eagles cool or uncool and everything to do with my not hearing a good grove in "These Shoes" (the Beasties found one).

found it? the loop is a clean drum/bass break right at the beginning of the song they sample pretty straight

those shoes is all joe walsh. the funky eagle. even if he didn't write it.

Restless is good, i love the groove in this

and yeah it reminds me a bit of Those Shoes too. Kinda that vibe or similar.

i like the way the groove builds up to the chorus & breaks like a wave
lots of songs do this obv but i always like when you can really feel it & anticipate it

i don't think i have a lot to say about this track. i like the drums at the beginning. but maybe i don't love it? for southern boys its not as heavy or as funky as lynyrd skynyrd obviously. i could hear 38 special or the rossington-collins band doing it. but in the end its not that memorable to me.

yeah, kinda “second-tier” southern lol

Groove and funkiness-wise, I maintain that the drummer could be doing a lot more for these songs, even though this is one of his more active efforts.

HIS NAME IS STAN LYNCH

this might sound mean but i think i'm gonna check for a live version with steve ferrone on drums...

some weekend listening for y'all!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf_tCzCi864

he stagedives at that show. showing the future grungers how its done!

Baby's a Rock 'n' Roller

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9s5eAG5ks0

It's Glam Petty! Nick Gilder's evil cousin.

nice! needs more footstompin'.

Glad to see that the running discography has reached this album--You're Gonna Get It! is my fave Heartbreakers album as a full-length listen fwiw, it always gets me pumped/makes me happy

What's the policy on B-sides? There's an original one for this album which is on YT. I don't think there are that many overall. Here's the tracklist for the B's disk from the box:

"Casa Dega" (B-side of "Don't Do Me Like That," issued November 1979) [Petty / Campbell] – 3:37
"Heartbreakers Beach Party" (B-side of "Change of Heart," February 1983) [Petty] – 1:57
"Trailer" (B-side of "Don't Come Around Here No More," March 1985) [Petty] – 3:15
"Cracking Up" (B-side of "Make It Better (Forget About Me)," May 1985) (Nick Lowe) – 3:34
"Psychotic Reaction" (Count Five garage rock cover live at Lawlor Events Center, Reno, NV, November 23, 1991; from the UK-only "Too Good to Be True" 1992 maxi CD single) (Kenn Ellner / Roy Chaney / Craig Atkinson / John Byrne / John Michalski) – 4:49
"I'm Tired Joey Boy" (live at Lawlor Events Center, Reno, NV, November 23, 1991; from the UK-only "Too Good to Be True" maxi CD single) (Van Morrison) – 3:42
"Lonely Weekends" (live at Oakland Coliseum, Oakland, CA, November 24, 1991; from the UK-only "Too Good to Be True" maxi CD single) (Charlie Rich) – 2:47
"Gator on the Lawn" (B-side of "A Woman in Love (It's Not Me)," July 1981) [Petty] – 1:35
"Make That Connection" (B-side of "Jammin' Me," April 18, 1987) [Petty / Campbell] – 5:04
"Down the Line" (B-side of "Free Fallin'", October 1989) [Petty / Lynne / Campbell] – 2:53
"Peace in L.A." (Peace Mix) (B-side of "Peace in L.A.," May 26, 1992) [Petty] – 4:43
"It's Rainin' Again" (B-side of "Refugee," January 1980) [Petty] – 1:32
"Somethin' Else" (live at Hammersmith Odeon, London, England, March 7, 1980; B-side of "Even the Losers" in Australia) (Sharon Sheeley / Eddie Cochran) – 2:05
"I Don't Know What to Say to You" (B-side of "Listen to Her Heart," August 30, 1978) [Petty] – 2:28
"King's Highway" (live at Stephen J O'Connell Center, University Of Florida, Gainesville, FL, November 4, 1993; B-side of the German-only "Something in the Air" as well as the UK-exclusive "Mary Jane's Last Dance" maxi CD single, March 1994) [Petty] – 3:30

So, eight stray originals (nine if you count the regular mix of "Peace In L.A." which was on another disk in the set).

"Trailer" is one of the Southern Accents outtakes that Petty regrets omitting.

the bass on here is very "jumpin jack flash"

i can do "i don't know what to say to you" tomorrow.